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My sister's situation has me worried about her future benefits. She just turned 63 and is still working full-time. Her husband was killed in a terrible accident when he was 56, and that was about 10 years ago. The tricky part is they were married for 9 years and 8 months when he passed away - just shy of the 10-year mark I've heard about. She hasn't remarried. When she reaches her full retirement age, can she claim benefits based on his work record if his earnings were higher than hers? Or does she completely lose out because they didn't quite make it to 10 years of marriage? I've been trying to understand survivor benefits but there seem to be different rules compared to spousal benefits. Any insights would be really appreciated!
I'm completely confused about my Social Security retirement benefits now. I'm 64 and a half, worked consistently since I was 22, and just stopped working two weeks ago to move across the country to care for my mom who's battling cancer. Before I left, I called the Social Security office to make sure my benefit wouldn't decrease if I stopped working now but waited until my Full Retirement Age (66 and 10 months) to actually claim. The SSA rep told me very clearly my benefits would NEVER go down from what they are now even if I don't work another day until FRA. But when I checked my Social Security account through the app yesterday, it's showing a LOWER projected benefit amount than what I saw before I quit! Now I don't know who to believe - the SSA representative or the app. Has anyone else experienced this discrepancy? Which one is actually correct? This is really stressful because I based my caregiving decision partly on what that SSA rep told me.
anybody know if taking care of a sick parent counts for anything with social security? like do u get credits or something for being a caregiver?
Unfortunately, Social Security doesn't provide work credits for caring for family members. However, there are some states that have paid family leave programs that might provide some income during caregiving periods. It varies by state though. This wouldn't affect your Social Security record directly, but at least provides some income while caregiving.
To definitively resolve this, you need to request a detailed earnings record and benefit calculation from SSA. They can provide a year-by-year breakdown showing exactly which 35 years are being used in your calculation and how changes in future earnings might affect your benefit amount. This is the only way to get complete clarity on your specific situation. One tip: When you speak with SSA, specifically ask for your PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) based on your current earnings record, and ask them to explain how continued work until FRA might have changed that amount. Be persistent in getting a detailed explanation rather than a general answer.
Just found out my husband's SS retirement check will only be around $1,100/month when he takes it at 62 next month. We knew it would be reduced for claiming early, but that amount isn't going to cover our bills. He wants to keep working part-time, but we're confused about the earnings limit. How much can he earn before they start taking money away from his benefits? Is it monthly or yearly? And does it matter if he works for himself vs. a regular job? The SSA website is so confusing with all these different rules!
Based on your description, you may want to consider whether your husband qualifies for the Retirement Earnings Test (RET) exemption if he's in certain situations: 1. If he's truly retiring (reducing hours and earnings significantly) 2. If he's self-employed and will perform minimal services There's also a special rule when calculating benefits if he's truly stopping substantial work mid-year. In that case, regardless of annual earnings, he can receive full benefits for months where he earns under the monthly limit ($1,930 in 2025) AND doesn't perform substantial services in self-employment. I suggest scheduling an appointment with SSA to discuss these special rules, as they might apply to your husband's seasonal work situation.
My mother started receiving survivor benefits after my dad died recently, but the SSA is reducing her check because of the Government Pension Offset (GPO). I believe this is a mistake. She was a New York State teacher for 30+ years but ALSO paid into Social Security throughout her career (unlike teachers in some other states). From everything I've researched, the GPO shouldn't apply if she paid SS taxes on her government job. We brought documentation to our local SSA office about 4 months ago, and the agent agreed there seemed to be an error. They said they'd send it for processing to fix, but nothing has happened. When I called the national number today (couldn't get through locally), the rep insisted that ANY government pension automatically triggers WEP/GPO regardless of SS contributions. Even more concerning - the rep said my mom has been subject to WEP reductions on her own retirement benefit for the past 17 years (she claimed at 62)! Is there a way to verify if this is true? If she's been incorrectly reduced all these years, can she get backpay? I thought I understood these rules pretty well based on SSA's own publications, but now I'm questioning everything. Has anyone here dealt with NYS teacher pensions specifically and GPO/WEP exemptions?
One more critical piece of advice: Request a "Technical Expert Review" specifically. These are SSA employees with specialized knowledge of complex provisions like WEP/GPO. The regular claims representatives often make mistakes with these rules. Also, if your mother's teaching service was after 1957, SSA should have records of her Social Security covered earnings from those years. Request her complete earnings record (SSA-7004) which might help prove her case. If the reconsideration is denied, you have 60 days to file for a hearing with an Administrative Law Judge. The success rate is much higher at this level because ALJs are more familiar with the nuances of these provisions.
my uncle had something like this happen he said just keep calling every week for a status update or theyll forget about your case lol. the squeaky wheel gets the grease with these govt agencies
I need some advice about Social Security spousal benefits in a weird situation. I'm 65 and started collecting my SS at 62 due to health problems. Currently getting about $1,350/month which barely covers my rent and medications. My husband and I separated 26 years ago but never legally divorced (no financial reason to at the time). We have adult children but no shared property or assets. Here's the weird part - during our marriage, he could never hold a job for more than a few months while I worked multiple waitressing jobs to support our family and raise the kids alone. But I just found out from our kids that he's been steadily employed for the past 5 years at a good-paying job, and will likely get higher SS benefits than me when he retires in a few years (he's 60 now). Since we're still technically married, what happens with Social Security benefits? Would I get more by filing for spousal benefits when he retires? Or would I be better off finally getting divorced and claiming ex-spouse benefits? Or should I just wait until he passes away someday and claim survivor benefits? It feels wrong that after supporting our family alone, I might get less than him. Not looking for relationship advice - just trying to figure out the best financial strategy with Social Security.
To respond to your follow-up question - yes, you should contact SSA when your husband files for his benefits. There's no automatic notification system, so you'll need to either: 1. Ask your children to let you know when he mentions filing for Social Security 2. Contact SSA periodically starting around his 62nd birthday to check his filing status 3. Wait until he reaches his Full Retirement Age (probably 67 for someone who's 60 now) when he's more likely to file And you're correct that from a purely Social Security benefits perspective, there's no financial advantage or disadvantage to getting divorced at this point. The benefits calculation would be identical either way since you were married well over 10 years. The only practical difference is the documentation process - as a current spouse, the connection is already established in SSA's system, while as a divorced spouse, you would need to provide marriage and divorce documentation.
u know what tho, if ur husband is making good money maybe talkin to a lawyer bout a divorce and some spousal support might actually be worth it. just because ur separated dont mean ur not entitled to a share of his current income in some states. might be worth checkin on, just sayin
Natasha Petrov
When my husband passed away in 2015 I was really confused about all this too!! SSA is impossible to understand sometimes!!! One thing no one mentioned yet - has your sister checked her husband's earnings record to see what his benefit would have been? She should make a my social security account online to see her own projected benefit too if she hasn't already done that. No point stressing about all this if her own benefit will be higher anyway!!
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Olivia Clark
AuthorThat's a really good point! I don't think she's checked either record yet. I'll help her set up the MySocialSecurity account so she can compare them. Would be silly to go through all this if her own benefit is higher anyway!
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Connor O'Brien
I HATE how the SSA punishes people who work! It's ridiculous that they'll withhold benefits if your sister keeps working. The whole system feels designed to force older people to retire early or lose out. My father-in-law lost thousands in benefits because he didn't understand the earnings limit when he started taking benefits at 62 while still working part-time. The SSA sent him a notice a year later demanding repayment! Anyone still working should be VERY careful about claiming early.
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Javier Morales
While the earnings test might seem punitive, it's important to understand it's not actually a penalty in the long run. Benefits withheld due to the earnings test result in a recalculation and increase to your monthly benefit amount once you reach FRA. Essentially, you're getting credit for those months when benefits were withheld. However, your point about the surprise factor is absolutely valid. Many people don't understand this rule and are shocked when they receive an overpayment notice or discover their benefits are being withheld. The SSA could definitely improve their communication about this.
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