The monthly earnings test is so frustrating! My mom went through this exact situation last year with her survivor benefits. One thing no one has mentioned yet - if you're close to your Full Retirement Age, the earnings limits are different. If you'll reach FRA in 2025, the monthly limit is much higher (around $6,000/month for 2024). Also, be aware that they sometimes apply different rules depending on whether you're self-employed or a regular employee. Are you a W-2 employee at your sister's shop or considered self-employed? This can affect how they count your earnings. As others mentioned, definitely request that those 4 withheld months be applied to any overpayment. This is your right but sometimes gets overlooked unless you specifically ask for it.

I want to add one more important point that hasn't been mentioned yet: Since you're planning to fully retire in 2025, you should submit a new estimate of zero earnings for 2025 as soon as possible. This will prevent SSA from withholding any benefits next year. Also, make sure you understand the difference between the Annual Earnings Test and the Monthly Earnings Test: - Monthly Test: Only applies in your first year receiving benefits. Any month you earn over the limit ($2,270 for 2024), you don't receive benefits for that month. - Annual Test: Applies every year until you reach Full Retirement Age. For every $2 you earn above the annual limit ($23,040 for 2024), SSA withholds $1 in benefits. The good news is that these withheld benefits aren't lost forever. Once you reach FRA, SSA recalculates your benefit amount to give credit for months benefits were withheld.

The SSA can be TERRIBLE about this stuff! My mom has dementia but not "bad enough" according to them initially. We had to get multiple doctor letters and it took MONTHS before they approved a payee. Meanwhile she lost almost $5000 to scammers!! Ask for a supervisor if they give you any runaround.

Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I've made notes on everything and will be contacting her doctor tomorrow for that documentation. I'll try to schedule an appointment with SSA using the Claimyr service since it sounds like getting through is the first big hurdle. I'm relieved to hear this is possible without full guardianship. I think my aunt will agree once I explain everything carefully - she was actually in tears last week after realizing she'd been scammed, so I think she knows she needs help even if it's hard to admit. I'll update once we get through the process in case it helps others in the same situation.

One strategy some people use is to file at 62 if they anticipate working less in the coming years. For example, if you're planning to go part-time at 63, it might make sense to file at 62, have some benefits withheld the first year, then start collecting when your income drops below the threshold. This works best if: 1. You're planning to reduce work hours soon after 62 2. You want to retire before FRA but after 62 3. Your life expectancy is uncertain due to health concerns Just remember the reduction is permanent - the adjustment at FRA only accounts for months benefits were completely withheld, not the early claiming reduction itself.

Another important consideration is tax efficiency in retirement planning. If you're still working full-time at a good salary, adding Social Security income could push you into a higher tax bracket. Up to 85% of your Social Security benefits become taxable when your combined income exceeds certain thresholds. For 2025, if your combined income (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of SS benefits) exceeds $34,000 (single) or $44,000 (married filing jointly), 85% of your benefits are subject to income tax. So claiming early while working could not only reduce your lifetime benefit but also result in higher taxes during those working years compared to waiting until you've stopped working or reduced your hours.

Does anybody know if this impacts the earnings test? I'm 63 getting SS but still teaching part-time and they take back some of my benefits whenever I make over the limit. SOOOO FRUSTRATING!!!!

Update: I finally spoke with someone at Social Security. They confirmed there haven't been any changes to the GPO rules that would affect my situation. The agent explained that any legislation would need to specifically address retroactive changes to current beneficiaries like me. She suggested I check the SSA website every few months for updates or sign up for their email newsletter. Thanks everyone for your helpful responses!

To directly answer your questions: 1. Yes, your SSDI benefit amount is your PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) 2. Yes, you can receive a "top-up" spousal benefit but only if 50% of your husband's PIA exceeds your own PIA 3. Yes, your husband must file for his own benefits before you can receive any spousal benefits, even though you're on SSDI If your husband delays until 70, you won't be able to receive any spousal benefits until he files. This creates a dilemma for many couples - maximize one spouse's benefit by delaying, or file earlier so the disabled spouse can receive the spousal portion sooner. I recommend scheduling an appointment with SSA to get benefit estimates based on different filing scenarios. This will help you make the best decision for your specific situation.

One more thing - when you do reach your full retirement age, nothing really changes with your benefit. Your SSDI simply converts to retirement benefits automatically, but the amount stays exactly the same. The only difference is that after FRA, the earnings limits no longer apply if you were to work.