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To clarify the Medicare point: Yes, if the husband is covered under the wife's current employer health insurance (from her active employment), AND the employer has 20+ employees, then he can delay enrolling in Medicare Part B without penalty. He would need to get a form called \

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This is all super helpful information. I definitely don't want to file early just to enable his spousal benefits if it's going to permanently reduce my benefit. It sounds like the best approach might be for him to wait until his FRA at 67 to claim his own benefit, and then I can file for mine when I reach my FRA (which would be 67 too, I think).

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Not to get off topic but make sure your brother applies for both SSDI and SSI at the same time. I didn't know you could do both and it delayed my benefits by months. The SSA should automatically screen for both but sometimes they don't.

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That's really good to know. He worked consistently until about 2 years ago when his MS started getting worse, so I think SSDI would be his main benefit. But we'll definitely make sure both are considered.

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An update based on the questions - yes, being in different states is not a problem for either the SSA-3288 or SSA-1696 forms. For the SSA-1696, you don't need to show ID when submitting the form, but you will need your brother's signature on it. The easiest approach would be to: 1. Help him start his disability application online 2. List yourself as a contact person on that application 3. Submit the SSA-3288 form to allow information sharing 4. Only pursue the SSA-1696 if you need to formally represent him later This gives you the ability to help with forms and communicate with SSA on his behalf without the more formal representative relationship that's typically used for attorneys or appeal situations.

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Thank you so much for this clear step-by-step plan! This makes it much easier to understand. We'll start with the online application this weekend.

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Update: I finally got through to SSA after trying different times of day (Wednesday at 4pm seemed to have shorter wait times). The agent confirmed that I can indeed claim the full survivor benefit at 66 and 10 months instead of waiting until 67 and 2 months. They also said I absolutely need the death certificate - they won't process the claim without it. I'm going to request one from the county where he passed away. Thanks everyone for your help!

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glad u got thru! good luck with everything!

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MAKE SURE you keep copies of EVERYTHING you send them!!! My friend had her original marriage certificate LOST by SSA and it was a nightmare to replace!!! They deny everything when they make mistakes!!!

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Oh no, that's terrible! Thanks for the warning - I'll definitely make copies of everything before I submit anything.

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After considering the earnings test information and your continued employment until August 2025, here's what I'd suggest: Call Social Security and have them calculate your break-even point with WEP factored in. Then make your decision based on your health/longevity expectations and financial needs. Also, file a

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Thank you for this detailed advice! I didn't know about the

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wait i just thought of something else - if ur brother ever gets remarried after 60 it wont affect any of his ss benefits. my uncle got remarried at 72 and was worried but the SSA said it dont matter after age 60!!

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That's correct. For survivor benefits, remarriage after age 60 doesn't affect eligibility. However, in this specific situation, it doesn't appear that the brother would be eligible for survivor benefits anyway since his own benefit is likely higher than what his wife's benefit would have been with only 4-5 years of work.

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That's good to know! He's not planning to remarry right now, but it's helpful information for the future. Thanks for sharing that detail.

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One more thing to consider - if your brother hasn't already, he should make sure the Social Security Administration knows about his wife's passing. Sometimes there can be issues if they aren't properly notified. Also, if he's struggling financially, he might want to check if he qualifies for any other programs like Medicare Savings Programs or Extra Help with Medicare prescription drug costs. These aren't related to survivor benefits but could help with his overall financial situation.

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That's a great suggestion about those other programs. He's on a pretty tight budget these days, so I'll definitely mention those options to him. I believe he did notify SSA when she passed, but I'll double-check with him. Thanks for the thoughtful advice!

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