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Regarding your question about working while receiving benefits: If you're earning significantly more than the earnings limit ($22,560 in 2025), you might want to consider waiting. However, there's something important to understand about the earnings test. Any benefits withheld because of your earnings aren't truly "lost" - when you reach FRA, SSA will recalculate your benefit amount to credit you for the months when benefits were withheld. To make the best decision, you should calculate: 1. How much your survivor benefit would be at 60 (SSA can tell you this) 2. How much would be withheld based on your expected earnings 3. How much your own retirement benefit will be at FRA Sometimes it still makes financial sense to claim early even with the earnings test, especially since your own benefit continues to grow separately.
I'm in a similar boat but I'm already 63. My ex died and I was going to claim his benefits but the SS office said mine would be higher soon anyway so it wasn't worth the hassle for me. Every situation is different tho!
Have you looked into seeing if there's any way to roll your PERS into an IRA? I have a friend who worked for Missouri government and she said she was able to do something like that which somehow avoided the GPO. Not sure if it would work the same with CalPERS though.
This is incorrect information that could cause serious problems. Rolling a government pension into an IRA does NOT exempt you from GPO. SSA specifically closed this loophole in 2004 with stricter regulations. They will still apply GPO based on the pension you would have received. Please be careful about financial moves based on outdated information.
im so confused about all this pension stuff my wife gets her teacher pension and still has her ss but maybe thats bcuz she was a teacher in tennessee? do different states have different rules about this gpo thing??
The GPO/WEP rules are federal rules that apply nationwide, but their impact varies based on whether your wife paid into Social Security during her teaching career. In some states, teachers pay into Social Security and their pension system, while in others (like California, Texas, and several more), they only pay into the pension system. If your wife paid Social Security taxes on her teaching earnings, she would be less affected by these provisions.
Thank you all for the helpful information! I just wanted to provide an update - I called SSA again and specifically asked about the "grace year" rule. The new representative confirmed what you all said - only my November and December earnings matter for 2025, and since I earned less than $1,850 in each of those months, I won't have any benefits withheld. She apologized for the confusion from my previous call. Such a relief! I appreciate this community so much.
Just to add my two cents - I know several people who've dealt with earnings limit issues and it's almost always better to proactively contact SSA if you think you might exceed the limit rather than waiting for them to catch it later. If they determine there's an overpayment after the fact, it can be much more stressful to deal with.
After struggling with this exact decision, I consulted with a financial planner who specializes in Social Security strategies. The most eye-opening part was running a simulation that showed how the decision impacts total household benefits through both of our lifetimes, not just my individual break-even point. For couples, it's really a household income strategy, not an individual one. Money well spent for personalized advice!
That's a really good point. I've been thinking about this mostly from my own perspective, but it really is a household decision that affects our combined income for potentially decades. Did the financial planner charge a lot for this analysis? I might look into finding someone who specializes in Social Security strategies.
The whole system is DESIGNED to confuse us!!! My uncle waited till 70 to claim and got exactly TWO CHECKS before he passed. Meanwhile the SSA building in my town just got renovated with fancy new furniture. Tell me where all our money is REALLY going!!?
Liam O'Connor
I think it depends on your local office tbh. Some are better than others. I've had to deal with SSA for my dad's benefits and everything was a mess. But then when I applied for my own retirement benefits it was super smooth. One thing no one's mentioned yet - if you can't find the originals but have copies, sometimes they'll accept those if they can verify the information in their system. Worth asking about!
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StarSurfer
Update: I finally got through to someone at SSA using that Claimyr service someone recommended. The agent checked my record and said they can see my husband's death is recorded in their system, but they'll still need me to bring the original marriage certificate to verify our relationship. At least I only need to track down one document instead of all of them! Thanks everyone for your help and advice.
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Carmen Reyes
•That's great news! Glad you were able to get a clear answer. Just remember to bring your own identification as well (driver's license, etc.) when you go to your appointment. And make sure to arrive early - some offices are still understaffed and lines can be long.
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Jamal Thompson
•glad it worked out! good luck with everything
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