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I became eligible for my Social Security retirement benefits in September and received my first two payments in November and December 2024. I'm still working full-time and plan to continue. I haven't received any tax documents from SSA yet, but I'll be doing my taxes soon. Is there a special form I need for reporting Social Security income on my taxes? Do I need to wait for something in the mail from SSA before filing? This is my first year dealing with Social Security benefits while still earning a regular paycheck, and I don't want to mess up my return. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
I'm turning 67 (my Full Retirement Age) in April 2025 and trying to figure out the best strategy with my Social Security benefits. I'm eligible for both my own retirement benefits and survivor benefits from my late husband. My plan is to claim ONLY the survivor benefits starting in January 2025 (first payment in February) while I continue working full-time, and let my own retirement benefits continue growing until age 70. My question is about the earnings test - since I'll be reaching FRA in April 2025, will I be subject to any earnings limit for those few months (January-April)? Or does the earnings limit completely disappear for the entire year I reach FRA? I keep getting conflicting information. My annual salary is about $72,000, and I don't want to lose any survivor benefits if I can avoid it. Will Social Security reduce my survivor payments for those first few months of 2025 before my birthday, or am I good to claim in January with no reductions since I'm turning FRA that year?
Make sure to double check the FRA for survivor benefits! Some people don't realize survivor FRA can be different from retirement FRA depending on your birth year. For most people born 1943-1954, FRA for survivors is 66, not 67. Just want to make sure you have the right age!
One more thing to consider - when you apply, do it as a "filing strategy" rather than just applying for benefits. Make it very clear you're: 1) Filing ONLY for survivor benefits at your FRA 2) Explicitly deferring your retirement benefits to grow delayed retirement credits 3) Planning to switch to your own higher benefit at age 70 I recommend applying in person at your local office if possible for this type of situation. Over the phone or online applications sometimes don't handle these strategic filings correctly. Bring a printed statement explaining your intention if needed.
After 22 years as a teacher in Ohio (non-SS covered employment) and 15 years in the private sector where I paid into Social Security, I'm trying to figure out how WEP will impact my SS benefits when I retire next year. I understand I'll face a reduction due to WEP, but I can't find anywhere on my Social Security statement that shows my PRE-WEP benefit amount. My statement only shows the already-reduced estimate. I need to see both numbers to verify the reduction is calculated correctly based on my years of substantial earnings. Has anyone found a way to see both the pre-WEP and post-WEP amounts? The SSA calculator online seems to only show the final reduced amount, and my last call to SSA (45 minutes on hold!) ended with the agent saying they couldn't provide that information. Any advice?
I thought I read somewhere that Congress might eliminate WEP? Is that true or just wishful thinking?
There have been several bills proposed over the years to reform or eliminate WEP, but none have passed yet. The most recent ones are the Social Security Fairness Act and the Equal Treatment of Public Servants Act. They get reintroduced every Congress but haven't made it through. Don't hold your breath - plan as if WEP will still affect you because that's the current law.
Update: I found the WEP calculator link and it worked! For anyone else dealing with this, it shows both the regular PIA and the reduced amount after WEP. In my case, my monthly benefit would be $2,285 without WEP but will be $1,786 with the reduction. My 23 years of substantial earnings helped reduce the penalty from the maximum, so that's good news at least. Thanks everyone for your help!
I'm so confused about how taxes work with delayed survivor benefits. I filed for my survivor benefits back in September to start in November (I'm at FRA so no reduction), but SSA seems to be taking forever to process it. My first payment should've come in December, but now it looks like January is more realistic given the backlog. My question is: when those benefits finally arrive, which tax year will they count for? If I filed for November/December 2024 benefits but the payment doesn't actually hit my account until January 2025, do I report that as 2024 or 2025 income for tax purposes? I'm still working part-time but since I'm at full retirement age, there's no earnings limit to worry about. Just trying to plan my taxes correctly since this delay is throwing everything off. Has anyone dealt with this before?
Something NO ONE has mentioned yet is that sometimes SSA will send you a letter saying what month your benefits officially start - keep this letter!!! You might need it to prove when you were entitled to benefits vs when you actually got paid. Especially if there's ever an audit or question later.
Just to add one more point of clarification - when the backpay arrives, the SSA-1099 will show the total amount paid to you during that calendar year. It won't specify which months the payments were for, just the total received. This is why it's important to keep your award letter that explains the breakdown of payments. Also, since you're asking about taxes, remember that depending on your combined income (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of SS benefits), up to 85% of your Social Security benefits may be taxable. Since you're still working, this is something to be aware of for your tax planning.
I didn't realize they don't break down which months the payments are for on the 1099. That's really helpful to know - I'll definitely save all the paperwork they send. And yes, I know some portion will be taxable since I'm still working. I was just confused about WHICH tax year they'd apply to. Thanks!
My situation is complicated and I'm not finding clear answers on the SSA website. My ex and I were married for 22 years before divorcing about 8 years ago. We're both 60 now. I worked consistently (mostly administrative jobs) while my ex-spouse has been receiving SSDI for about 11 years due to a serious back injury. I'm trying to plan ahead and understand my options. When I reach 62, can I claim some portion of my ex's disability benefit as a divorced spouse benefit? Would it work as a "top-off" to my own retirement benefit if mine is lower? And if I claim at 62 instead of waiting until my Full Retirement Age (67), how exactly would the reduction work—would it be based on my benefit alone or the combined amount? I'm not looking to maximize every penny, just want to understand if I should factor this ex-spouse benefit into my retirement calculations at all. Thanks for any guidance!
To answer your latest question - no, you cannot switch later. Under current rules (changed in 2016), once you file for benefits, you're deemed to be filing for ALL benefits you're eligible for. The SSA will pay you the higher amount, but you cannot switch strategies later. This is why planning is so important. If your own benefit at FRA would be significantly higher than the divorced spouse benefit, it might be worth waiting. Your own benefit grows until age 70, while divorced spouse benefits max out at your FRA. I'd recommend creating a my Social Security account online if you haven't already. It will show your earnings history and benefit estimates based on different claiming ages.
Thanks everyone for the incredibly helpful advice! I've learned so much: 1. I can claim divorced spouse benefits at 62 based on my ex's SSDI record 2. I'll get either my own benefit OR up to 50% of my ex's benefit (reduced for early claiming), not both 3. Filing at 62 means about a 30% reduction from what I'd get at my FRA 4. Once I file, I can't switch strategies later I'm going to create a my Social Security account and use the benefit estimator to run some numbers. Then I'll try to schedule an appointment specifically to discuss my divorced spouse options. This has been so much more helpful than the confusing information on the SSA website!
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Just to add one more important point: If you've just started collecting Social Security in November 2024, your benefit amount might be different in 2025 due to the annual Cost of Living Adjustment (COLA). This adjustment took effect with December 2024 benefits (payable in January 2025). Make sure to budget accordingly for any tax implications based on your new benefit amount going forward.
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Thank you everyone for all the helpful answers! I'll keep an eye out for the SSA-1099 in the mail, but I'm also going to set up my online account to access it there if needed. Since I'm past FRA, it sounds like I don't need to worry about the earnings limit, which is a relief. I'll look into that W-4V form to have some taxes withheld from my SS benefits going forward to avoid a surprise tax bill. This community has been incredibly helpful!
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