How to calculate Social Security benefits when waiting until 70 after retiring at FRA?
I'm trying to figure out how my Social Security retirement benefits will be affected if I retire from work at my full retirement age (67.5) but don't actually claim benefits until I turn 70. I've looked all over the MySocialSecurity website but can't seem to find the calculator that would show me this specific scenario. Does anyone know where on the SSA site I can input zeros for those 2.5 years to see if my benefit amount would be reduced by not working during that period? I'm worried that the gap between retirement and claiming might significantly lower my monthly payment despite the delayed retirement credits. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Eduardo Silva
the zeros wont hurt u if ur past FRA, u get 8% per year increase for waiting till 70 no matter what. the calculator is under 'plan for retirement' on ssa.gov but its not very clear. i think u might be confused about how SS works
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Freya Andersen
•Thanks for responding. So you're saying that once I hit my full retirement age, adding zeros to my earnings record won't affect my benefit calculation? That's a relief if true! I think I was mixing up the calculation method with something else. Do you know if there's a specific calculator on the site that would let me verify this though?
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Leila Haddad
You have a common misunderstanding about how Social Security benefits are calculated. Your benefit amount is based on your highest 35 years of earnings (adjusted for inflation). Once you reach your Full Retirement Age (FRA), adding zeros by not working will not reduce your benefit amount if you already have 35 years of earnings. What will happen is that for each month you delay claiming beyond your FRA up to age 70, you receive Delayed Retirement Credits of 2/3 of 1% per month (8% per year). This is a guaranteed increase regardless of whether you're working or not. You can verify this on the SSA website by: 1. Going to ssa.gov and logging into your my Social Security account 2. Click on "Retirement Calculator" or "Benefit Estimator" 3. You can enter different retirement ages (including 70) to see how your benefit changes 4. There's also a more detailed calculator called the "Retirement Estimator" that allows you to enter projected future earnings (where you could enter zeros) Bottom line - waiting until 70 will INCREASE your benefit by approximately 24% compared to claiming at your FRA, regardless of whether you work during those years or not.
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Freya Andersen
•Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! I've been worrying about this for weeks. So just to make absolutely sure I understand: if I stop working at 67.5 (my FRA) but don't claim until 70, I'll get the full 24% increase from delayed retirement credits, and those 2.5 years of zero income won't negatively impact my benefit calculation? That's fantastic news.
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Emma Johnson
I was in the EXACT same boat last year!! The SSA website is SO confusing. I finally gave up and called them directly after trying for HOURS to figure it out online. Spent THREE DAYS trying to get through!!! Would hang up on me after 2 hours on hold!!! RIDICULOUS!!! When I finally got someone, they explained that zeros after FRA don't hurt your calculation AT ALL. The 8% per year increase is GUARANTEED no matter what. But good luck getting anyone on the phone to confirm this for your specific situation!
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Ravi Patel
•I had the same frustrating experience trying to get through to SSA on the phone! After being disconnected multiple times, I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to a real person at SSA in about 20 minutes instead of spending hours on hold. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Totally worth it to get my questions answered directly by SSA. They confirmed exactly what others are saying here - those zeros after FRA don't affect your benefit amount at all.
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Astrid Bergström
What you're looking for is the detailed calculator you can download to your computer. It's called the Retirement Estimator or sometimes the Detailed Calculator. You have to download special software from SSA.gov. I think you go to the Tools section. After you install it, you can input different scenarios including years with zero earnings. It's not the easiest thing to use but it's very accurate. But what everyone else said is correct too - those zeros won't hurt you after FRA. The 35-year calculation is already done at that point, and the delay credits are guaranteed regardless of work status. I used the calculator to plan my own retirement and it matched almost exactly what I'm getting now.
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PixelPrincess
•That detailed calculator is useful but often unnecessary for most people. The SSA actually has three different calculators online: the Quick Calculator (very basic), the Online Calculator (more detailed), and the Detailed Calculator (downloadable software). For most people, the Online Calculator is sufficient - you can find it at https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/estimator.html. The benefit of waiting until 70 is quite significant and doesn't require the detailed software to confirm in most cases.
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Omar Farouk
My husband retired at 67 but waited till 69 to claim and the amount was definitely higher than if he'd claimed right away! The SSA office told him the extra money was like getting an 8% guaranteed return per year which is way better than anything else right now. Not sure about any calculator but the extra $$$ each month is real.
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Freya Andersen
•That's a good point about the 8% return - I hadn't thought about it that way. Did your husband continue working at all during that waiting period or was he fully retired?
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Omar Farouk
he was fully retired those 2 years, played a lot of golf lol
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Freya Andersen
•That's exactly what I'm planning to do! Thanks for sharing your experience - it's reassuring to hear from someone who's actually done what I'm planning.
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Astrid Bergström
One more thing - when you do claim at 70, make sure you understand how your benefits will be taxed. Depending on your other income sources, up to 85% of your Social Security can be subject to federal income tax. Many people don't plan for this and get surprised at tax time. Your state may also tax SS benefits differently.
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Emma Johnson
•YES!! THIS!! I got BLINDSIDED by taxes on my SS benefits!! Had no idea they would be taxed!!! The government is taking my money TWICE!!! Complete ROBBERY if you ask me!
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Leila Haddad
To answer your specific question about finding this on the website: The tool you want is called the "Retirement Estimator" which you can find here: https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/estimator.html When you log in with your my Social Security credentials, you can see estimates based on different claiming ages. There's also an option to enter custom earnings amounts for future years where you could enter zeros. If you want even more detail, you can download the "Detailed Calculator" software mentioned earlier, but for most people, the online tool provides sufficient information.
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Freya Andersen
•Perfect, thank you for the direct link! I'll check out the Retirement Estimator today. I feel much better about my retirement plans now that I understand how this works.
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