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Can my fiancé receive Social Security survivor benefits from ex-spouse while working part-time? What about his son?

My fiancé has an appointment with Social Security in January about possibly getting survivor benefits from his ex-wife who recently passed away. We have a couple questions I'm hoping someone can help with: 1) Can he work part-time while receiving these survivor benefits or would that disqualify him? He's currently unemployed but has been offered a 20hr/week job starting in February. 2) His 15-year-old son (not the biological child of the deceased ex-wife) receives child support from my fiancé - would the son be eligible for any benefits through this situation? I know it's complicated but any insights would be really helpful before the appointment!

If your fiancé is under FRA (full retirement age) and works, there are earnings limits that could reduce his survivor benefits. I think it's around $22,320 for 2025 before they start deducting $1 for every $2 earned above that. For the son, probably not eligible since the deceased wasn't his parent. They usually only pay benefits to biological/adopted children of the deceased.

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Thank you! Do you know if they count gross earnings or net? My fiancé's part-time job would pay about $19,000 annually so sounds like he might be under that threshold.

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Just to clarify - your fiancé can only get surviving divorced spouse benefits if he was married to his ex for at least 10 years before they divorced. Was their marriage that long? Also, the earnings limit is based on gross wages before any deductions. And they don't count investment income, just wages from work.

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Oh! I didn't know about the 10-year rule. They were only married for 8 years. Does that mean he can't get anything at all? This changes everything.

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Sorry but i think your fiance is out of luck if they were married less than 10 years. thats a strict rule with survivor benefits for divorced spouses. SSA doesnt budge on that even if it was 9 years and 11 months. And no way his son would qualify since the deceased wasnt his mom. might be best to cancel that appointment and save the time.

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That's so frustrating. They were just under 2 years short. I wonder if there are any exceptions? His ex did have a substantial work record and paid into the system her whole life.

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I went through something similar. My husband died and his ex tried claiming benefits but they were only married 7 years so she got denied. No exceptions that I know of. But honestly your fiancé should STILL go to the appointment because sometimes there are other benefits people don't know about. Never hurts to ask.

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To address your questions clearly: 1) The 10-year marriage duration requirement is indeed necessary for surviving divorced spouse benefits. If they were married less than 10 years, unfortunately, he won't qualify regardless of work status. 2) For the child support situation: His son would only be eligible if the deceased ex-wife had legally adopted him during the marriage. If no legal adoption occurred, the child isn't eligible for survivor benefits based on the ex-wife's record. 3) Regarding part-time work: This only becomes relevant if the marriage duration requirement is met. Then yes, the 2025 earnings limit would apply ($22,320), but since the fundamental eligibility requirement isn't met, the work question is unfortunately moot. I would still recommend keeping the appointment to explore any other potential benefits he might qualify for based on his own work record.

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Thank you for such a clear explanation. I'll let him know about the 10-year rule, but you're right that we should keep the appointment. He's approaching 60 so maybe they can advise him about his own future retirement options.

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my cousin was in the exact same boat!!!! less than 10 years marriage and ex died. she got NOTHING even though he worked for 30 years!!!! the system is so unfair. they dont care if its 9 years and 364 days they will still say no. its all about following their stupid rules not about whats fair.

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The 10-year rule may seem arbitrary, but there has to be some cutoff point. Otherwise, someone married for just 1 month could claim benefits. The system isn't perfect, but these rules do have a purpose.

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Since we've established your fiancé likely won't qualify for survivor benefits based on the marriage duration, he should focus on his own benefits. At his appointment, he should ask about: 1. His own retirement benefit estimates (even if he's years away) 2. Whether he might qualify for any disability benefits if he has health issues 3. If he's caring for any dependent children, there might be other programs As for his 15-year-old son, if the child's biological mother is alive, he might qualify for benefits on her record when she retires, becomes disabled, or passes away. If the biological mother is deceased, the child might already be eligible for survivor benefits based on her record. Always good to understand all options!

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This is so helpful - thank you! His son's biological mother is alive but they've been estranged for years. My fiancé has had full custody since the son was 3. I'll make sure he asks about his own retirement timeline at the appointment.

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quick question - how old is your fiance? if he's close to 60, he might want to start planning for his own retirement benefits anyway. the appointment could be useful for that.

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He's 58, so yes, getting close! That's a good point about using the appointment to discuss his own retirement options. I think that's exactly what we'll do.

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Since your fiancé is 58, here's what he should specifically ask at his appointment: 1. Request his Social Security Statement showing his estimated retirement benefits at different claiming ages (62, FRA, and 70) 2. Ask how additional work years might increase his benefit amount 3. Discuss whether his part-time job will add enough earnings to increase his future benefit 4. Inquire about potential spousal benefits when you two marry (if you're planning to) 5. Understand how the WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision) might affect him if he ever worked in jobs not covered by Social Security Regarding his 15-year-old son: The child may be eligible for benefits on your fiancé's record when he claims retirement benefits. Children can receive up to 50% of the parent's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) until age 18 (or 19 if still in high school).

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This is incredibly helpful! I didn't realize his son might qualify for benefits when my fiancé retires. We're planning to marry next year, so I'll make sure he asks about potential spousal benefits too. Thank you!

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