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Just want to add that while you're waiting to reach age 62, it might be worth exploring if you qualify for the Medicare Savings Program if your family income is limited. This program can help pay Medicare premiums for your husband, which could free up some monthly income. Requirements vary by state, but it's worth checking into. Also, make sure your husband is receiving all the benefits he's entitled to. Sometimes people on SSDI don't realize they might also qualify for SSI if their SSDI payment is low enough and they meet the resource limits.
I hadn't thought about the Medicare Savings Program! My husband does have Medicare, and the premium definitely takes a chunk out of his monthly check. We'll look into that right away. I don't think he'd qualify for SSI though - his SSDI is about $1,850 monthly which is probably too high for SSI, right?
You're correct - at $1,850/month SSDI, your husband wouldn't qualify for SSI as that exceeds the federal benefit rate. However, definitely check out the Medicare Savings Program (MSP) options. Depending on your total family income and resources, you might qualify for one of the MSP levels that could pay his Part B premium ($174.70 in 2023), which would put that money back in your pocket each month. Also, when your children age out of their benefits, that will be a significant reduction in household income. Start planning for that transition now, especially if your 16-year-old will be heading to college.
wait im confused about something... if shes born in 1964 isnt her regular FRA 67 not 66 and 8 months? why are there different FRAs for different benefits?? thats so confusing!
Great question! There actually ARE different Full Retirement Ages for different benefit types. For people born in 1964: - Regular retirement/disability FRA: 67 - Widow/Survivor FRA: 66 and 8 months This is because Congress set different FRA rules for survivor benefits than for retirement benefits. It's confusing, but important for planning. This age difference creates the unique opportunity for someone in this situation to file a restricted application for just widow's benefits at 66+8mo while letting their own retirement benefit continue growing until 70.
Thank you all for the amazingly helpful advice! I've made notes of everything and have a much clearer plan now: 1. Get specific benefit amounts from SSA (what my SSDI converts to at 67, projected amount at 70, and widow's benefit at 66+8mo) 2. At 66+8mo, file restricted application SPECIFICALLY for widow's benefits only if they're higher than my SSDI 3. At 70, reassess and take whichever is higher - my maximized retirement or the widow's benefit I'll use that Claimyr service to actually reach SSA since the regular phone line has been impossible. I'll update when I have more information, in case it helps someone else in a similar situation.
Something else to consider - has your sister checked her own Social Security record lately??? My friend thought her benefit would be really small because of her government job, but when she actually checked her SS statement online, it was higher than she expected because of all the years she paid in. Your sister should create a my Social Security account on ssa.gov if she hasn't already!!! That way she'll know her own benefit amount before even talking to anyone.
Excellent suggestion. Creating a my Social Security account at ssa.gov is essential for anyone approaching retirement age. The benefit estimates shown there will help your sister make a more informed decision. However, one caution - the online estimates don't always correctly account for things like WEP/GPO reductions. They give a good starting point, but the final calculation should be confirmed with an SSA representative who can properly apply any applicable reductions.
i think everyones overthinking this lol. just have her apply and see what they say. my aunt got dinged with gpo and still got like $400 a month from my uncles record. anything is better than nothing right?
My friend's situation was kinda similar and I think there was a surprise with how much she got so def have your husband ask very specific questions during his phone appt! Good luck
Just to clarify one more point that sometimes confuses people: The decision about when to file is separate for each of you. You've already filed, but your husband still has options. If your husband files at 62, he gets approximately 70% of his FRA benefit (the $749). If he waits until FRA, he gets 100% of his FRA benefit (probably around $1070). If he waits until 70, he gets 132% of his FRA benefit (around $1412). The spousal benefit doesn't increase after FRA, so there's no spousal advantage to waiting beyond FRA. But his own benefit continues to grow until 70. Since his own benefit is already higher than the reduced spousal benefit, waiting longer would just increase that gap.
Heather Tyson
To be clear about the process: If GPO is repealed, you will need to contact SSA and likely file an application for spousal benefits. Even if you previously applied and were denied due to GPO, you would need to file again under the new rules. The amount on your statement is a good starting point, but might not be exactly what you'll receive. Benefits are subject to annual Cost of Living Adjustments (COLAs), and the final calculation will be based on your Full Retirement Age (FRA), when you file, and your spouse's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). I recommend working with a knowledgeable SSA representative when filing to ensure you maximize your benefits. Given how difficult it can be to reach SSA by phone, consider scheduling an in-person appointment at your local office once any legislation is actually passed.
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Paloma Clark
•Thank you for the detailed explanation. I'll definitely plan to be proactive about contacting them if the legislation passes. I just hope I can get through to someone who actually understands the complexities of GPO and spousal benefits!
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Raul Neal
btw be careful about getting your hopes up too much. my neighbor's wife is in same boat (teacher pension) and she said even if the law passes theres rumors it might only be partial elimination of GPO, not the whole thing. who knows what they'll end up doing!!!
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