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ANYONE else notice how IMPOSSIBLE it is to get correct information from SSA these days?!?! I swear every rep tells you something different! My neighbor filed last year and got told THREE different things about how her pension would affect her SS benefit! The whole system is a mess!!
The WEP and GPO rules regarding pensions are exceptionally complicated, so I'm not surprised your neighbor got inconsistent information. Those provisions (Windfall Elimination Provision and Government Pension Offset) have very complex calculations that many SSA representatives struggle with. Always best to get information in writing or speak with a technical expert at SSA for those situations.
to answer that other persons question YES u can wait to take survivor benefits even if already getting ur own. my sister was getting her own SS when her husband died last year and the SS person told her she could wait til her FRA to switch to survivors to get the full amount. shes 63 now and waiting til 67 to switch
That's correct. This is one of the few remaining planning opportunities after the 2015 law changes. You can choose when to take survivor benefits independent of your retirement benefits. So in the original poster's case, she could take reduced retirement benefits now, and if her husband passed away, she could either: 1. Switch to survivor benefits immediately (at a reduction if before FRA) 2. Wait until FRA to switch to full survivor benefits The best choice depends on the benefit amounts and her financial needs at that time.
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My wife signed up for SSDI last year and her first check was late too. But SSI gets paid on different days than retirement doesnt it? So confused about all these different programs and payment schedules!
You're right about the confusion - there are different payment schedules: - SSI (Supplemental Security Income) payments always come on the 1st of the month - Social Security retirement, survivors, and SSDI (Disability) follow the birthday schedule (2nd, 3rd, or 4th Wednesday) - If you get both SSI and Social Security, SSI comes on the 1st and the other payment on the 3rd The person who started this thread is asking about retirement benefits, which follow the Wednesday schedule based on birth date.
Thanks everyone for the helpful information! I feel much better now understanding that his January 2025 benefit will arrive in February, specifically on the third Wednesday since his birthday is on the 17th. We'll make sure to budget accordingly and not expect anything in January. I'll have him check his my SSA account regularly to track any updates too.
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Has anyone mentioned yet that you should check if you're eligible for the lump-sum death benefit? It's only $255 but hey, money is money! Though after 12 years they might say it's too late for that particular benefit.
Unfortunately, the $255 death payment must be applied for within two years of death in most cases, so that's likely not available anymore. But definitely worth asking about when speaking with SSA just in case there are exceptions!
Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice! I'm going to try to contact SSA directly to discuss my specific situation. Sounds like I should probably wait until I'm either closer to 60 or possibly even until my full retirement age given my current income. I appreciate all the information about the different options and considerations - this is way more complicated than I thought it would be!
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That's exactly right! Just watch your earnings for July and August, and from September onward you're completely free from any earnings restrictions. If your July-August income might put you over the prorated limit, you could always ask your employer to delay your hours increase until September to avoid any potential benefit reduction.
Thank you everyone for the helpful information! I'm going to accept the full-time position now that I understand the rules better. It's such a relief to know I only need to be mindful of my earnings through July, and after that, I'm free to earn without restrictions. I really appreciate all the clear explanations and personal experiences shared here!
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Thank you all SO much for these detailed explanations. This makes much more sense now. I'm going to call SSA again and specifically request a comparison between my survivor benefit at FRA and my own benefit projected to age 70. I'll make sure to ask for someone in the survivor benefits department too. It sounds like my best approach is to: 1. Take survivor benefits at my FRA (Feb 2025) 2. Let my own benefit grow until 70 3. Switch to my own benefit at 70 *only if* it exceeds the survivor benefit I feel so much more confident now! I'll update when I get the actual numbers from SSA.
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Sounds like you've got the perfect plan! And don't worry if the first SSA rep you talk to seems confused - ask for a supervisor or someone who specializes in survivor benefits if needed. Good luck!
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