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Both of your questions are really common! For state taxes, each state handles retirement income differently. While Social Security only handles federal withholding, many retirees set up quarterly estimated payments with their state. Some states don't tax Social Security benefits at all though - which state are you in? That makes a big difference. On Medicare - yes, you'll need documentation, but you should be fine. This situation (staying on a spouse's active employer plan) is specifically protected under Medicare rules. You qualify for a Special Enrollment Period. Just make sure you apply within 8 months of when that coverage ends. Honestly, I'd recommend making an appointment at your local Social Security office for these questions. These issues are complex enough that speaking with someone directly is your best bet.
I'm in Vermont, which does tax a portion of SS benefits based on income. Thanks for suggesting the in-person appointment - that's probably the safest approach. I'll call to schedule something, and will look into that Claimyr service if I can't get through easily. Better to get this all squared away properly than risk penalties or tax headaches later!
does anybody else think its RIDICULOUS that ss wont withhold state taxes?? they already have all our information and do federal withholding. just one more thing to complicate retirement!!
YES! I've been saying this for years. Each agency making us jump through separate hoops. And then they wonder why retirees get frustrated with government systems. It's especially hard on people who aren't tech-savvy or have cognitive issues. My neighbor who's 82 gets so confused trying to manage all these different payment systems.
It's actually because state tax systems vary dramatically, and each state has different rules for taxing retirement benefits. Some states don't tax Social Security at all, others exempt certain amounts, and the rates differ widely. It would be extremely complex for SSA to maintain 50+ different state tax withholding systems. While frustrating, it makes sense why they don't handle it.
my aunt just turned 62 and she got a spousal benefit that was like $200 more than her own benefit would have been. but she worked part time most of her life so her own benefit was pretty small.
Thank you everyone for all the helpful responses! I've learned a lot about how the spousal benefit works. I think I'm going to go ahead and file now at 62 since we could use the extra income, even though it's reduced. One last question - do I need to bring anything special to prove my marriage when I apply?
For a spousal application, you'll need: 1. Your marriage certificate 2. Both your Social Security numbers 3. Your birth certificate (original or certified copy) 4. Your most recent W-2 or tax return 5. Bank account information for direct deposit If you've been married before, you may also need divorce decrees. It's always best to bring too much documentation rather than too little. You can apply online, but I recommend calling or visiting an office since this involves spousal benefits.
my sister went thru this last yr. don't forget hes still eligible for the lump sum death benefit when u pass away even with GPO. not much but its something.
True about death benefit but it's only $255 - barely covers flowers at the funeral these days! The whole system needs fixing. Law enforcement and teachers get completely screwed by WEP and GPO even after working their whole lives. My neighbor taught for 30 years AND worked summers paying into SS and still lost thousands in benefits!
One final point that might help others in similar situations: If your husband had enough Social Security-covered employment (40 quarters/10 years), he would be exempt from the WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision) that could otherwise reduce his own benefit. But GPO still applies to spousal benefits regardless of quarters of coverage. The distinction between WEP (affects your own benefit) and GPO (affects spousal/survivor benefits) confuses many people. And unfortunately, there's been legislation proposed to reform these provisions for years but nothing has passed yet.
That's a great point about the WEP vs. GPO distinction. And to clarify further for the original poster: even though your husband might not qualify for additional spousal benefits now, he may still be eligible for survivor benefits if you pass away before him. Survivor benefits can be up to 100% of your benefit (rather than the 50% for spousal), so even after the GPO reduction, he might receive some survivor benefits. This is something to consider for long-term financial planning.
My situation was different but same question basically. I started SS at 62 and kept working and they calculated based on my currnt year income. They made me give a estimate when i filed. Then every January they send this form asking about next years income estimate. Its annoying but better than owing them money later!!! They retroactivly take money if u mess up!!
Thanks everyone for the helpful information! I'm going to carefully track my earnings next year and make sure to give SSA a realistic estimate. I might try that Claimyr service too since I really need to talk to someone directly about my specific situation. I appreciate all your advice and hearing about your experiences!
Carmen Ruiz
my daughter got survivors benefits when she was 14 after her dad died they were really helpful it paid for most of her expenses until she graduated make sure you go in person and bring all the documents they ask for or they'll make you come back again
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Nia Wilson
Thanks everyone for the helpful advice. I used the Claimyr service mentioned above and actually got through to schedule an appointment for next week! I've gathered all the documents mentioned and will be setting up a separate account for tracking her benefit funds. One last question - will these benefits affect her eligibility for college financial aid? She's planning to apply to colleges next year.
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Mateo Martinez
•Good news on getting an appointment! Regarding financial aid, Social Security benefits are considered income for FAFSA purposes, so yes, they will be counted in financial aid calculations. However, this income is reported on the FAFSA and is treated differently than other assets. Make sure to work with her high school counselor next year when filling out financial aid forms, as there are sometimes special considerations for students receiving survivor benefits.
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Nia Wilson
•Thank you! I'll make a note to talk to her counselor about this when we start the college application process.
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