Will taking SS benefits at 64 reduce future survivor benefits from husband's higher earnings?
Recently laid off from my teaching position at 63 (turning 64 next month) and I'm debating whether to start my Social Security benefits early. I know I'll get approximately 13.3% less than my full retirement amount since I'm about 3 years shy of my FRA of 67. My husband is the primary breadwinner and just turned 67, but he's adamant about waiting until 70 to maximize his benefits (which will be about $3,450/month). My big concern: If I start SS early and my husband passes away before me, would my survivor benefits be permanently reduced because I claimed early? Or would I still get 100% of what he was receiving? I'm really struggling with this decision because the extra income would help now, but I don't want to shoot myself in the foot long-term if something happens to him. Has anyone navigated this situation before? What factors should I be weighing here?
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Sergio Neal
Good news - your decision to take your own benefits early does NOT affect your eventual survivor benefits. If your husband passes away, you would be entitled to 100% of what he was receiving (or would have received if he hadn't claimed yet). The reduction for claiming early only applies to your own retirement benefit or spousal benefits, not to survivor benefits. If your husband maximizes by waiting until 70, and then passes away, you'd receive his full age-70 benefit amount as a survivor benefit (assuming you're at or above your FRA when you switch to survivor benefits). This is one of the advantages of having the higher-earning spouse delay benefits until 70 - it maximizes the survivor protection.
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Leslie Parker
•Thank you so much for this clarification! So to make sure I understand correctly - I can claim my own reduced benefit now at 64, and then later if my husband passes away (after he's claimed at 70), I could switch to his full amount? There's no penalty to my survivor benefits for claiming my own early?
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Savanna Franklin
im in same boat turned 63 last month took mine early at 62 husband is waiting til 70 to get the max amount. we decided better to have some money now rather then wait for the bigger check. you can always invest some of it if u dont need it all right away
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Juan Moreno
•This is exactly what my brother and sister-in-law did! He waited until 70 (he was the higher earner) while she took hers at 62. They figured they'd have some SS income coming in, but also maximize what she would get if he passed first. Smart strategy if you can make the numbers work. They've been very happy with the decision.
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Amy Fleming
When you take your own retirement benefits early, you'll receive a permanently reduced amount on YOUR record. However, survivor benefits work differently. If your husband passes away, you would receive his full benefit amount (what he was receiving at death) IF you're at your FRA when you take survivor benefits. If you're under your FRA when you receive survivor benefits, there is a reduction. At age 64, you'd receive about 81.9% of your husband's full benefit as a survivor. Every month you wait between ages 60-FRA increases this percentage. A common strategy is exactly what you're considering: the lower earner takes their reduced benefits early, while the higher earner delays until 70 to maximize the survivor benefit protection. Your own reduced benefit doesn't impact future survivor benefits - they're completely separate calculations. One thing to consider: When your husband files at 70, you could potentially switch to a spousal benefit if that would be higher than your reduced retirement benefit. The spousal benefit would be reduced because you filed early, but might still be higher than what you're getting on your own record.
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Alice Pierce
•Actually this isn't entirely accurate. When her husband files at 70, she CANNOT switch to a higher spousal benefit if she's already claiming her own retirement. Due to the 2015 law changes (BiBA), she'll be deemed to have filed for ALL benefits she's eligible for when she files. The days of filing for one benefit and later switching to another are gone except in very specific circumstances like survivor benefits. She'll automatically receive the higher of her own benefit OR her spousal benefit (which would be reduced since she filed early). But she can't wait and file for spousal later to avoid the reduction.
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Esteban Tate
I had the WORST experience trying to figure this out for myself last year!!! Called SS like 20 times and kept getting different answers. Some reps said my early filing would reduce survivor benefits, others said it wouldn't. FINALLY got someone who knew what they were talking about who confirmed what others here are saying - early filing of your OWN benefits doesn't reduce future survivor benefits! But GOOD LUCK getting through to anyone at SSA these days to confirm this for your specific situation!!!!
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Ivanna St. Pierre
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Juan Moreno
My wife and I were in almost this exact situation! I'm 5 years older and the higher earner. She took her benefits at 63 while I waited until 70. It's worked out great for us - we had some SS income coming in during those years, but also maximized what she'll get if I go first. Just make sure you have enough other savings or income to bridge the gap until your husband files.
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Leslie Parker
•That's really reassuring to hear! Did your wife's benefit increase at all when you finally filed at 70? I'm wondering if I'll see any kind of spousal boost when my husband files, even though I'll have been collecting my own reduced benefit for years by then.
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Alice Pierce
Here's the technical explanation: When you file for benefits before FRA, you receive a reduced retirement benefit on your own record. This reduction is permanent and applies to your retirement benefit for life. However, survivor benefits are calculated completely separately. If your husband passes away, you'd be eligible for survivor benefits equal to 100% of what he was receiving if: 1. You're at or past your FRA when you claim survivor benefits 2. You're not entitled to a retirement benefit that exceeds his benefit If you're under FRA when claiming survivor benefits, they'd be reduced (approximately 4.75% per year early). But your earlier decision to claim your own retirement benefits doesn't factor into this calculation. This is why it's often advantageous for the higher earner to delay until 70 - it creates a larger survivor benefit for the remaining spouse. Your plan (you claiming early while husband delays) can actually be a smart approach if you need income now but want to maximize long-term benefits.
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Savanna Franklin
•wait i thought if u were taking ur own benefits already and then became eligible for survivors you HAD to take them right away? can u really wait til FRA for survivor benefits even if ur already collecting ur own??
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Amy Fleming
To address the question about whether your benefit would increase when your husband files at 70: You might receive a spousal add-on if your reduced retirement benefit is less than your reduced spousal amount. Your maximum spousal benefit would be 50% of your husband's PIA (his benefit at full retirement age, before his delayed retirement credits). Since you're filing at 64, about 3 years early, your spousal benefit would be reduced by approximately 17-18%. The SSA will automatically calculate whether you're entitled to a combination of benefits that gives you the highest amount. So when your husband files, if you're eligible for additional spousal benefits, they'll be added automatically. But remember - the spousal benefit doesn't include his delayed retirement credits. Those only count for survivor benefits.
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Leslie Parker
•Thanks for explaining that. So the spousal benefit is based on his PIA, not his age-70 increased amount. That makes sense. Seems like the math definitely favors him waiting until 70 since that's what would determine my survivor benefit if he passes first, which is our bigger concern.
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Esteban Tate
ANYONE else notice how IMPOSSIBLE it is to get correct information from SSA these days?!?! I swear every rep tells you something different! My neighbor filed last year and got told THREE different things about how her pension would affect her SS benefit! The whole system is a mess!!
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Sergio Neal
•The WEP and GPO rules regarding pensions are exceptionally complicated, so I'm not surprised your neighbor got inconsistent information. Those provisions (Windfall Elimination Provision and Government Pension Offset) have very complex calculations that many SSA representatives struggle with. Always best to get information in writing or speak with a technical expert at SSA for those situations.
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Savanna Franklin
to answer that other persons question YES u can wait to take survivor benefits even if already getting ur own. my sister was getting her own SS when her husband died last year and the SS person told her she could wait til her FRA to switch to survivors to get the full amount. shes 63 now and waiting til 67 to switch
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Alice Pierce
•That's correct. This is one of the few remaining planning opportunities after the 2015 law changes. You can choose when to take survivor benefits independent of your retirement benefits. So in the original poster's case, she could take reduced retirement benefits now, and if her husband passed away, she could either: 1. Switch to survivor benefits immediately (at a reduction if before FRA) 2. Wait until FRA to switch to full survivor benefits The best choice depends on the benefit amounts and her financial needs at that time.
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