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I was watching the evening news yesterday and they were talking about inflation rates dropping. The reporter said something about Social Security recipients not getting a cost-of-living adjustment (COLA) next year because of low inflation numbers. Is this actually true?? My budget is already stretched thin and I was counting on at least a small increase for 2025. Has anyone else heard anything official about this from SSA? Trying not to panic but this would be really bad news for me and probably millions of others.
I've been receiving SSDI for the past 6 years due to a serious back injury that prevents me from working. I've been married for almost 24 years, but honestly, things aren't great in my marriage right now and I'm trying to understand my options. My husband has always been the higher earner (worked in construction management) while I was a medical assistant before my disability. I'm currently 58 and trying to plan ahead. My big question is about what happens when I reach my full retirement age (67). If I stay married OR if we end up getting divorced, would I be able to switch from my SSDI benefit to a spousal benefit based on my husband's work record if that amount would be higher? Or does SSDI just automatically convert to regular Social Security at the same amount regardless of marital status? I'm getting $1,780/month currently on SSDI if that matters. I've called SSA three times and gotten different answers each time, so I'm completely confused!
Thank you all for the helpful responses! It sounds like I need to: 1. Let my SSDI automatically convert at FRA 2. Apply separately for spousal benefits (whether married or divorced) 3. Contact SSA 3-4 months before reaching FRA to start this process 4. Watch out for any Medicare premium issues during the transition I feel much better having a plan now. I was so confused by the conflicting information I got from the SSA representatives. Does anyone know if there's a specific form I need to fill out to apply for the spousal benefits when the time comes?
You'll want to file Form SSA-2 (Application for Wife's or Husband's Insurance Benefits) if still married, or Form SSA-1 (Application for Divorced Spouse's Benefits) if divorced by then. However, the easiest approach is to apply online through your my Social Security account or schedule an appointment with your local office about 3 months before your FRA. They'll guide you through all the necessary paperwork for your specific situation.
one more thing!! if u do get divorced make SURE u get a copy of ur marriage certificate AND divorce decree. ssa made me go back and forth 3 times for more paperwork. total nightmare!!!
My wife retired this past December at her full retirement age and her first Social Security check is coming next month. Our household income has dropped by about 50% now that she's not working, but our bills haven't changed at all (mortgage, utilities, property taxes all the same). I'm at my full retirement age too but still working full-time with no immediate plans to retire. I'm wondering if it makes financial sense for me to start collecting my SS benefits now while continuing to work, just to keep our household income closer to what it was before? I know there's no earnings limit once you reach FRA, but I'm not sure if there are other downsides I'm missing. Would taking SS now while working affect our tax situation? Any advice appreciated!
also think about what happens when you do fully retire. will your wifes benefit be enough to support both of you if yours hasn't started yet? my friend had to go back to work at 72 because they didn't plan this right!!
One additional consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet: while your Social Security benefits can be subject to income tax, they're typically taxed at a lower effective rate than regular income. So even if you're in a higher tax bracket due to working + collecting SS, you may still come out ahead financially compared to just your work income alone. Also, if you're planning to continue working for several more years, claiming now gives you more flexibility. You could use the SS income to max out retirement account contributions, pay down debt, or build an emergency fund that will serve you well in full retirement.
I appreciate all this thoughtful advice. I think I'm leaning toward taking SS now while continuing to work. The immediate cash flow would let us keep our lifestyle without dipping into savings, and we could even put some away for when I do fully retire. I'll probably use that Claimyr service someone mentioned to talk to SSA directly about my specific numbers before making the final decision.
I'm hitting a financial crossroads with my Social Security decision. I'm reaching my Full Retirement Age (FRA) on March 30th and eligible for survivors benefits around $2,000/month. I've been told I can apply now but preserve January as my filing date. My situation is complicated because I'm currently working full-time (teaching job under CalSTRS) while also collecting my CalPERS retirement from my previous career. My income is actually pretty good, but I made a mess of my taxes this year - didn't have enough withheld and didn't set up any IRAs or other tax shelters. Now I'm facing a hefty tax bill. I'm planning to continue teaching for another 1-2 years, but I'm concerned about adding Social Security survivors benefits on top of my current income and making my tax situation even worse. Should I just wait until I fully retire to claim survivors benefits? Or is there some strategy I'm missing that would let me collect now without creating an even bigger tax headache? Any advice from those who've navigated Social Security benefits while working with multiple income streams?
Everyone's talking about taking benefits now vs. waiting, but there's another option: You mentioned you can apply now but preserve January as your filing date. This is likely referring to the 6-month retroactive benefits available at FRA. If you apply in March, you could potentially get benefits back to September (not January though, unless I'm misunderstanding something). With retroactive benefits, you'd get a lump sum for those months, which could impact your taxes differently than monthly payments. Worth considering how a lump sum vs. regular payments might affect your tax situation.
Good catch! Though to clarify: at FRA, survivors benefits can actually have up to 12 months of retroactivity, not just 6 months (the 6-month limit applies to retirement benefits). So if the poster applies in March 2025, they could potentially claim back to March 2024, assuming they were already at FRA then. And you're right about tax planning - a lump sum retroactive payment might push them into a higher bracket for 2025. There are special tax rules for lump-sum distributions that might help (filing an amended return or special calculations), but it gets complicated quickly.
One consideration I haven't seen mentioned: if you're planning to claim your own Social Security retirement benefit someday (separate from the survivor benefit), the timing of the survivor claim doesn't affect your own retirement benefit. You could take the survivor benefit now and later switch to your own retirement benefit if it ends up being higher. Regarding taxes, calculating the exact impact would require knowing your specific tax situation, but if you're already in the 24% or higher federal bracket, expect to pay at least that rate on about 85% of your SS benefits. State taxation varies - California doesn't tax Social Security, which is helpful for you. A financial planner who specializes in public employee pensions might be worth consulting for your specific situation.
That's a great point about California not taxing Social Security! I hadn't factored that in. And yes, I do have my own retirement benefit that I could claim later (though it would be less than the survivor benefit). I'm leaning toward claiming now and dealing with the tax implications, especially after learning about the California tax advantage. Thank you!
I've been trying to make sense of my dad's Social Security situation since he passed away last month and I keep hitting a wall with all these abbreviations in the POMS (Program Operations Manual System). I understand a few like FRA (full retirement age) and GPO (Government Pension Offset), but there are dozens I don't recognize like DIB, RIB, NH, PIA, and others that show up without explanation. Has anyone found a comprehensive glossary or list of these acronyms somewhere on the SSA website? I've searched everywhere and can't find an official reference list. The SSA rep I spoke with wasn't very helpful either.
Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions! Between the SSA glossary page, the Statistical Supplement, and the other resources mentioned, I've been able to figure out most of the acronyms I was struggling with. Still can't believe there's no single comprehensive resource though. I'm going to try Claimyr to get through to someone about scheduling an in-person appointment - I really need to sort out these survivor benefit details. I'll also request those specific POMS sections as suggested. Really appreciate all the help!
Glad we could help! One last tip - when you do speak with someone at SSA, ask them to note in your file exactly which POMS sections they're referencing when they explain things to you. That way, if you need to follow up later, you can refer to specific sections rather than starting over. It helps with consistency, especially since different reps sometimes interpret rules differently.
Lim Wong
For those concerned about the potential COLA for 2025, here's some historical context: - 2023 COLA: 8.7% (highest in 40 years due to inflation spike) - 2024 COLA: 3.2% (as inflation began moderating) - Previous 10-year average (2014-2023): approximately 2.6% - Years with 0% COLA: 2010, 2011, 2016 Current inflation trends suggest we'll likely see a COLA in the 1.5-2.5% range for 2025, assuming inflation continues at similar rates through Q3. While lower than recent years, this is actually closer to historical norms. The official announcement will come from SSA in mid-October 2024.
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Carmella Popescu
AuthorThis historical context is really helpful. I guess I got spoiled by the bigger COLAs the last couple years. Even 1.5% would be better than nothing for my budget.
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Carmella Popescu
Thank you everyone for your insights! I feel much better knowing that the news report was just speculation and not an official announcement. I'll wait for the October announcement before worrying too much. I really appreciate this community's knowledge and support!
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