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Just curious - did you or your wife pay into Social Security? If your wife didn't have enough work credits that could be another issue. For survivor benefits the deceased needs 40 credits (10 years work) OR if they died young sometimes fewer credits. But SOMEONE needs to have paid in for benefits to be available.

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Yes, my wife worked full-time for over 20 years and had more than enough credits. She was 58 when she passed away and had been contributing to Social Security her entire working life.

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Based on everything you've shared, I believe you have a case worth pursuing. The fact that: 1. You both had legal custody before your wife passed 2. You were actively in the adoption process 3. You were providing support and care for the child 4. Your wife had sufficient work credits All point to a potential approval with proper representation. I'd suggest: 1. Contact the National Organization of Social Security Claimants' Representatives (NOSSCR) to find a qualified attorney 2. Gather ALL documentation showing the timeline of custody, adoption process, and your wife's involvement 3. Request a formal reconsideration rather than just calling again 4. Reference your previous inquiry to maintain the retroactive date I've seen cases like yours succeed, but they typically require persistence and proper legal representation.

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Thank you so much for this detailed action plan. I hadn't heard of NOSSCR before, but I'll definitely contact them to find a qualified attorney. I feel more confident now about pursuing this with the right approach and representation.

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I'm sorry about your ex-husband's passing. When my brother died, we learned that Social Security won't automatically pay these benefits - you MUST apply. And the 2-year deadline is strict. I'd recommend calling your local SSA office directly rather than the national number - sometimes it's easier to get through. Also, bring your children's birth certificates and Social Security cards when you go in, along with your ID and his death certificate.

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Thank you for the condolences and advice. I'll try calling our local office tomorrow. Would you recommend making an appointment or just walking in? I'll gather all those documents right away.

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Definitely make an appointment if possible - the walk-in wait times can be terrible. Some offices are still requiring appointments anyway. Check the SSA website for your local office's phone number. And remember to ask about survivor benefits for your children when you go in - that's the really important part that could help financially for years to come.

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Since you mentioned cancer recovery - don't forget that the SSA has compassionate allowances and expedited processing for serious medical conditions. If your condition worsens or you need to apply for disability, make sure to mention your cancer diagnosis as it might qualify you for faster processing. Sending healing thoughts your way.

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Thank you for this information and the kind thoughts. I'm actually doing better now (fingers crossed), but it's good to know about the compassionate allowances in case things change. The after-effects of treatment are what's really messing with my cognitive abilities right now.

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its so confusing my sister got more from her ex husband than her second husband when he died but they told me different rules when i called????????

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The rules can seem inconsistent because they're applied differently based on individual circumstances. Your sister's benefit amount would depend on her age, whether she was receiving her own benefits, how much each husband earned, etc. That's why it's always best to speak directly with SSA about your specific situation rather than comparing to someone else's experience.

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Wait I'm confused...I thought SSI and Social Security were the same thing? Which calculator should I use if I'm on disability but turning 65 next year?

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SSI (Supplemental Security Income) and Social Security retirement are different programs: - SSI is needs-based for people with limited income/resources who are disabled, blind, or 65+ - Social Security retirement is based on your work history and payroll tax contributions If you're receiving Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI), it automatically converts to retirement benefits when you reach Full Retirement Age (66-67 depending on birth year). The amount stays the same. If you're on SSI (which maxes at about $943/month in 2025), you should contact SSA directly as your situation requires personalized guidance.

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Thanks everyone for the great suggestions! I downloaded ANYPIA but it's pretty complicated. I'm going to try MaximizeMySocialSecurity.com since it seems more user-friendly and the price is reasonable. I'm also realizing that because I only have 31 years of earnings, even my reduced-income years will help fill in those missing years in my top 35. That's something I didn't fully understand before.

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You've got it! Even those lower-earning years will help if they're replacing zeros in your calculation. Good luck with your planning!

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my mom works part time after starting SS and she gets to keep all her money. they only reduce benefits if ur younger than full retirement age i think? but be careful about taxes cause they might tax more of ur SS if u make too much money from working

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That's what I'm gathering from everyone's responses. Sounds like I don't need to worry about benefit reductions, just be aware of the potential tax implications. Thanks for sharing your mom's experience!

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - your continued work might increase your benefit at 70, but not in the way you might be thinking. There's no special increase at 70 based on work. However, if between 67-70 your new earnings replace a lower year in your calculation, you'd see some increase. This happens whenever SSA does their annual recomputation, not specifically at age 70. There's also delayed retirement credits if you had suspended your benefits (8% per year), but since you're already collecting, that's not applicable here.

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i think op was confusing the age 70 thing with DRCs? lots of people think there's some magical recalculation at 70 but thats not how it works

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