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what about if u wait til your full retirement age? would u get more money then? sometimes its better to wait i think....

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Important clarification here: For survivor benefits (including divorced spouse survivor benefits), you can claim as early as age 60, but with a reduction. At Full Retirement Age, you'd get 100% of your survivor benefit. However, unlike regular retirement benefits, waiting BEYOND Full Retirement Age doesn't increase survivor benefits. So there's no advantage to waiting past FRA. In the original poster's case, claiming at 61 means taking a reduction from the full survivor benefit, but she might still get more now than waiting, especially if she needs the income. It's a personal calculation based on financial needs.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, and I completely understand the difficult position you're in with your family's reactions. As someone who's dealt with similar family dynamics around Social Security decisions, I want to encourage you to move forward with your application. Your family's emotional reactions, while understandable, don't change the legal and practical reality of your situation. You sacrificed career advancement during your 22-year marriage to support your family, and the Social Security system specifically recognizes this contribution through survivor benefits for divorced spouses. A few thoughts that might help with the family conversations: - Emphasize that this isn't about your feelings toward your ex-husband or "profiting" from his death - it's about financial security in retirement - Explain that these benefits exist because society recognizes the economic impact of career sacrifices made for family - Point out that your claiming benefits doesn't reduce anyone else's benefits The $800+ monthly difference between what you'd get on his record versus your own is substantial and could be the difference between financial stress and security in your later years. You've already confirmed your eligibility with SSA - now it's just a matter of following through. Your daughter and others may come around once they see this is simply you accessing benefits you're legally entitled to, not an emotional statement about your past marriage.

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Update: I managed to get through to someone at SSA this morning! Used that Claimyr service someone mentioned and it worked great. The agent confirmed they were using my 2023 earnings to estimate 2024, but I was able to explain my reduced hours. They're sending me the SSA-795 form to complete and said they'll adjust my benefits for June. They also said I'll get back the excess they've already withheld once they process my paperwork. Thank you all for the helpful advice!

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Excellent! Make sure to keep copies of everything you submit and get the name of the representative who helps you. If possible, ask for a receipt or confirmation number for your submission. This will make follow-up much easier if needed. Glad you're getting it resolved!

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awesome! glad the service worked for you too

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Great to hear you got it resolved! This is a perfect example of why the SSA-795 form is so important for anyone whose work situation changes after retirement. For others reading this thread who might face similar issues, here are a few additional tips: 1) Submit the form as soon as your earnings pattern changes, don't wait until they start over-withholding, 2) Keep detailed records of your hours and pay - even a simple spreadsheet helps, and 3) If you're approaching FRA like StarStrider, remember that the earnings test stops completely the month you reach full retirement age, so any excess withholding from earlier in that year gets refunded automatically. The system isn't perfect but it does work when you know which forms to use!

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After reviewing all the responses, here's a practical summary: Contact SSA proactively to report your anticipated earnings. The reduction will be $1 for every $2 you earn above the limit. They may suspend payments for some months or reduce each payment until the amount is recovered. If you don't report it, they'll eventually find out through tax records and send you a notice of overpayment. The good news is that once you reach your Full Retirement Age, these earnings limitations disappear completely, and your benefit will be recalculated to give credit for the months benefits were withheld.

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Thank you for this clear explanation! I'll definitely contact them proactively. Four more years until these earnings limits disappear seems like forever, but it's good to know my benefit will eventually be recalculated.

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I'm in a similar situation and have been researching this extensively. One thing I learned is that SSA has a "grace year" policy for your first year of retirement - they only count earnings from the month after you start receiving benefits. Since you started in January, this might not apply to you anymore, but it's worth mentioning to others. Also, if you do end up with an overpayment, you can request a waiver if repayment would cause financial hardship. They'll consider your income, expenses, and assets. You can also appeal their earnings calculations if you think they made an error. The key is documentation - keep records of when you worked, what you earned, and any communications with SSA. One more tip: if this contract work is temporary and you'll be back under the limit next year, the reduced benefits now will actually increase your monthly payment slightly once you reach FRA, since they recalculate to account for the months they withheld benefits.

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This is really helpful. My health is good and my parents both lived well into their 90s, so longevity runs in my family. That probably tips the scales toward waiting for FRA in my case.

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Jessica, given your family's longevity history and good health, waiting until FRA definitely seems like the smart financial move for you. I'm in a similar boat - divorced after a long marriage with an ex who was the higher earner. One thing that helped me make the decision was creating a simple spreadsheet comparing the monthly amounts and total lifetime benefits under each scenario. Since you mentioned your ex was an engineer and the primary breadwinner, his 50% spousal benefit (even reduced) might still exceed your own retirement benefit. But the key question is whether you can afford to wait those extra 2+ years without any Social Security income. Have you looked into other income sources to bridge that gap, like part-time work or tapping retirement accounts? Sometimes the peace of mind from having some income now outweighs the long-term financial optimization, and that's okay too. Every situation is different, so don't feel pressured to make the "mathematically perfect" choice if it doesn't work for your real-world circumstances.

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Thank you! I'll make sure he knows to ask specifically about that strategy. I appreciate everyone's help so much - this group has been incredibly informative!

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I'm so glad to see everyone helping your brother navigate this situation! As someone new to understanding Social Security benefits, I learned a lot from reading through these responses. One thing that really stands out is how complex the timing strategies can be - the idea that he could take survivor benefits now and potentially switch to his own retirement benefits later is fascinating. It seems like the key is getting SSA to run all the numbers so he can make an informed decision. I hope his appointment goes smoothly and that he's able to get some financial relief soon. The fact that you're helping him research this and gather documents shows what great family support he has during a difficult time. Please update us on how it goes - I'm sure others in similar situations would benefit from hearing about his experience with the application process!

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