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i retired early at 57 from teaching after 22 years and started a business. worked 8 more years paying into SS. still got hit with WEP but not as bad as i feared. the good thing is my business income was higher than teaching so my SS benefit is still decent even with reduction. sometimes the best option is just earning more in your new career!

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That's encouraging to hear! My corporate salary is definitely higher than my teaching salary was, so hopefully that helps. Mind if I ask roughly what percentage reduction you faced with 22 years teaching + 8 years SS?

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I've been researching this topic for months and there's been occasional talk in Congress about reforming or eliminating WEP, though nothing has passed yet. The "Social Security Fairness Act" gets reintroduced regularly. Might be worth keeping an eye on potential legislative changes over the next few decades before you retire.

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They've been promising to fix this for DECADES. Don't hold your breath!!!

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i think my mom had someting like this and they made her pay a penalty or something??? just make sure you ask if theres any downside to applying late

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There's no penalty for applying for divorced spouse benefits at any age after your full retirement age. Your mom may have experienced a different situation, perhaps related to Medicare enrollment penalties or something else entirely. For divorced spouse benefits, the only potential downside to applying late is missing out on back payments, since they only go back 6 months maximum.

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Just want to add that when you DO get through to SSA, INSIST they explain exactly how they calculate everything. I've had agents give me completely different answers about the same question. And get the agent's name and ID number too, because if they give you wrong info, you'll need to reference who told you what.

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That's excellent advice. I'll definitely ask for a detailed explanation of the calculation and make sure to note the agent's information. I've heard horror stories about inconsistent information, so I'll be prepared to advocate for myself.

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i got married at 61 and wish i had known all this stuff before. make sure you both look at EXACT numbers because everyone on here is giving general advice but YOUR specific earnings records matter most. the SSA calculators online suck btw they never worked right for me

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That's a good point - we should probably look at our actual earnings records and run the numbers. Is there any reliable way to calculate this accurately?

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The most accurate way to estimate your specific situation is to: 1. Create my Social Security accounts online for both of you 2. Download your earnings records 3. Use the detailed calculator from SSA called "Anypia" (it's not user-friendly but it's accurate) Alternatively, you could schedule an appointment with a Social Security claims specialist and have them run projections for you. They can show you exactly how different filing ages and marriage timing would affect both your benefits. One timing consideration: If you marry shortly after turning 59, you'll satisfy the 1-year marriage requirement before earliest possible filing age (62).

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Thank you! I didn't know about the Anypia calculator - we'll look into that. We both have our mySocialSecurity accounts set up already, so we can download our earnings records. Appreciate the tips!

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My aunt had almost identical situation. They reduced her survivors benefit because of some county job she had in the 90s. She fought it and eventually won, but it took multiple appeals. The key was proving she paid SS taxes during that job, which sounds like you did if your SS statement shows earnings. Don't let them get away with this!

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Yes! This is why I suggested Claimyr to get through to someone who actually knows the rules. Regular SSA reps often don't understand these special situations.

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I want to add something important: there's a 60-day deadline to request reconsideration from the date on your notice. If you're close to that deadline, file the request immediately, even if you haven't gathered all your evidence yet. You can always submit additional documentation later during the reconsideration process. Based on everything shared here, you have a strong case for having the GPO removed completely. Good luck, and please come back to let us know the outcome!

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The notice is dated about 3 weeks ago, so I still have time, but I'll definitely file the reconsideration request this week. Thank you for the reminder about the deadline! I'll update once I have some news.

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Mei Lin

I called SSA today and wanted to update everyone. The representative confirmed that I could receive a combination of my own benefit plus a partial spousal benefit to bring me up to 50% of my husband's PIA (what he would have received at full retirement age). In my case, it amounts to an extra $218 per month, which definitely helps! They're processing my application now. Thank you all for your helpful advice!

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That's great news! An extra $218 per month is significant - that's over $2,600 a year. I'm glad it worked out for you. Did they tell you how long it would take to process and when you'll start receiving the increased amount?

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Mei Lin

They said it would take about 30 days to process, and the payments would start the following month. They also mentioned I might get a small retroactive payment since I was eligible as of last month when I reached FRA. Every bit helps with these inflation rates!

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congrats! put that extra money to good use! :

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