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This is really helpful. My health is good and my parents both lived well into their 90s, so longevity runs in my family. That probably tips the scales toward waiting for FRA in my case.
Jessica, given your family's longevity history and good health, waiting until FRA definitely seems like the smart financial move for you. I'm in a similar boat - divorced after a long marriage with an ex who was the higher earner. One thing that helped me make the decision was creating a simple spreadsheet comparing the monthly amounts and total lifetime benefits under each scenario. Since you mentioned your ex was an engineer and the primary breadwinner, his 50% spousal benefit (even reduced) might still exceed your own retirement benefit. But the key question is whether you can afford to wait those extra 2+ years without any Social Security income. Have you looked into other income sources to bridge that gap, like part-time work or tapping retirement accounts? Sometimes the peace of mind from having some income now outweighs the long-term financial optimization, and that's okay too. Every situation is different, so don't feel pressured to make the "mathematically perfect" choice if it doesn't work for your real-world circumstances.
Thank you! I'll make sure he knows to ask specifically about that strategy. I appreciate everyone's help so much - this group has been incredibly informative!
I'm so glad to see everyone helping your brother navigate this situation! As someone new to understanding Social Security benefits, I learned a lot from reading through these responses. One thing that really stands out is how complex the timing strategies can be - the idea that he could take survivor benefits now and potentially switch to his own retirement benefits later is fascinating. It seems like the key is getting SSA to run all the numbers so he can make an informed decision. I hope his appointment goes smoothly and that he's able to get some financial relief soon. The fact that you're helping him research this and gather documents shows what great family support he has during a difficult time. Please update us on how it goes - I'm sure others in similar situations would benefit from hearing about his experience with the application process!
Just wondering - have u checked if your pension plan is one of the ones exempt from GPO? My friend worked for a school district in a state where they paid into Social Security AND their pension, and she didn't get hit with GPO. Might be worth double checking?
I went through a very similar situation with my state pension and spousal benefits! The "suspended" status is really just SSA's way of saying they're still calculating the GPO impact - it doesn't mean anything is wrong with your application. Given that your teacher's pension is $2,400/month, the GPO reduction would indeed be $1,600 (2/3 of your pension), which completely wipes out your $865 spousal benefit. So withdrawing and reapplying wouldn't change your monthly payment at all - you'd still get $0. The smart move here is to keep your current application active. Even though you won't receive spousal benefits now, having that established application date could be crucial if you ever need to file for survivor benefits later. Survivor benefits have different GPO calculations and might still be partially payable despite your pension. Plus, if there are any future changes to GPO rules (which lawmakers occasionally discuss), you'd already have your application in the system. I'd just let it ride and focus on maximizing your own Social Security benefits when you're ready to claim those.
One more important point: If you do qualify for the survivor benefit, you should calculate whether it's financially beneficial to take it now while letting your own benefit grow. If your own benefit at 66 is already substantially higher than the survivor benefit would be (especially since it might be reduced because your ex died before FRA), then it might make more sense to just claim your own benefit now or wait until 70 for the maximum amount.
That's a really good point. I'll need to find out what the survivor benefit amount would be in my case. My ex had a decent income, but mine was higher in the later years of my career. I'm leaning toward pursuing the survivor benefit if eligible while letting my own benefit grow, but I'll need the specific numbers to make an informed decision. Thank you all for this helpful information!
Just wanted to add one more consideration that might help with your decision-making process. When you do contact SSA (whether through the regular phone line or using a service like Claimyr), make sure to ask them to provide you with written estimates of both benefit amounts. Request an estimate of what your survivor benefit would be based on your ex-husband's record, and also get a projection of what your own retirement benefit would be at different claiming ages (66, 67, 68, 69, and 70). Having these concrete numbers will make it much easier to determine the optimal strategy. Also, don't forget that if you do take the survivor benefit now, you can still switch to your own benefit later if it becomes higher - you're not locked into one choice forever. Good luck navigating this complex situation!
Natasha Kuznetsova
Just a warning - the SSA is SERIOUSLY understaffed right now! I've heard processing times are getting longer and longer. If I were you I'd apply 4 months early just to be safe. The official recommendation might be 3 months but that was before all the staffing issues they're having now. Better safe than sorry!!!
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Oliver Wagner
•While there have been some staffing challenges, most straightforward retirement applications are still being processed within the standard timeframe. The 3-month guideline already includes buffer time for potential delays.
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AstroExplorer
I went through this same process last year and can share what worked for me. I applied exactly 3 months before my FRA birthday in October, and everything went smoothly - my first payment arrived right on schedule in November. One tip that really helped: I created a my Social Security account online first (if you don't already have one) and spent some time reviewing my earnings record before applying. This way I could spot any discrepancies ahead of time. The online application itself was pretty straightforward, but having all my documents organized made a huge difference. Since you're planning to stop work in July and your FRA is in August, applying in May would put you right at that 3-month mark. That should give SSA plenty of time to process everything, and you'll avoid any potential earnings complications since you'll already be retired when benefits start. Don't stress too much about the weekend birthday - the system handles all that automatically. Good luck with your application!
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