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Hi everyone! I'm planning to start my Social Security retirement benefits next year at 63, but I still want to work part-time. I understand there's an annual earnings limit of $22,320 for 2025 if you're under Full Retirement Age. My question is: Does it matter WHEN during the year I earn this money? For example, could I work January-June, earn just under the $22,320 limit, and then not work at all July-December? Or does SSA expect the earnings to be spread throughout the year (like $1,860/month max)? I'm trying to plan my work schedule for next year and don't want to trigger any benefit reductions or have to pay anything back. Thanks in advance for any insights!
I'm in the middle of applying for Social Security spousal benefits and I'm stuck on what seems like a simple question. When they ask for 'wages paid' for 2025, I'm not sure if I should include my teacher's pension. It shows up as income on our tax returns, but technically it's not 'wages' for work I did this year. I do have about $850 in self-employment income that I know I need to report. Just worried about answering incorrectly and delaying my application. Has anyone dealt with this before? The application doesn't explain what counts as 'wages' very clearly!
when is your birthday? if your turning 64 soon maybe wait? the earnings limit goes up when you hit your FRA year
The GPO can be really devastating - I've seen cases where people's spousal benefits are completely wiped out. Since you worked 18 years in California without paying Social Security taxes, you'll likely face the full GPO reduction. Before you apply, try to get an estimate of what your spousal benefit would be without GPO, then subtract 2/3 of your monthly pension amount. If that number is zero or negative, you won't receive any spousal benefits at all. It's harsh, but better to know upfront than be surprised later.
I just filed for my Social Security retirement at 67 last week (finally hit my FRA). My wife has been collecting her own retirement benefits since she turned 62 about 5 years ago. Her benefit is pretty small - around $950/month since she worked part-time for many years. I know she'd qualify for a much higher spousal benefit based on my earnings (probably an extra $800-900 monthly!). I've been all over the MySocialSecurity website trying to find how to update her to the spousal benefit now that I've filed, but there's no obvious way to do this. Do I need to call SSA directly? Is there some online form I'm missing? Or does this happen automatically? I don't want her to miss out on the higher amount for any longer than necessary.
Update: I called our local office this morning and got some answers. They confirmed my wife needs to call to apply for the spousal benefit. It won't be retroactive to when I applied unless she applies within 6 months of my benefit approval (not application date). And yes, the calculation is her benefit plus the difference to get her to the reduced spousal amount. Thanks everyone for your help with this!
Thanks for sharing that update! That's really helpful information about the 6-month window from your benefit APPROVAL date, not the application date. That's an important distinction I didn't know about. Good luck with getting your wife's spousal benefits sorted out - hopefully the process goes smoothly once your own application is fully approved!
Has anyone tried calling SSA this week about the new Fairness Act change for WEP/GPO? I noticed they updated their website over the weekend saying you can now call to apply for spousal benefits and get connected with a specially trained WEP/GPO rep if you specifically mention "Fairness Act" when you call. I'm a retired teacher (31 years in public school) with my own pension, and my husband just started his SS retirement in January. I've been trying for WEEKS to get an appointment to apply for my spousal benefit, but the earliest they had was late July! I'm wondering if this new process actually works or if they're still making people wait for appointments even when mentioning the Fairness Act? Has anyone successfully applied for spousal benefits by phone THIS WEEK without them scheduling another appointment? I'm hesitant to spend 2+ hours on hold just to be told I still need to wait until July. Any experiences would be super helpful!
To follow up on my earlier comment - I received confirmation that my application was processed yesterday. The representative said I should expect to receive my first payment in about 30-45 days, and they'll send me a detailed breakdown of how the WEP/GPO reduction was calculated. One important thing to note: they asked very specific questions about my non-covered employment (the teaching job with a pension). They wanted exact start and end dates for each position, and information about any breaks in service. I wasn't prepared for this level of detail, so I had to estimate some dates, which could delay processing. The rep also mentioned that they're prioritizing spousal benefit applications for people affected by WEP/GPO right now, which might be why I got through relatively quickly once I reached the right department.
I'm a newly retired federal employee (30 years with USPS) and my wife has been collecting her SS retirement for about 6 months now. I've been lurking on this forum for weeks trying to figure out the best approach for applying for spousal benefits under WEP/GPO rules. Based on what I'm reading here, it sounds like calling first thing in the morning and using the specific script that QuantumQuasar provided might be the way to go. I'm going to give it a try next week once I get all my employment documentation organized. One question though - for those who have successfully applied by phone recently, did they ask for any documentation to be mailed or faxed in afterward, or were they able to complete everything verbally over the phone? I'm wondering if I should have my pension statement and marriage certificate ready to scan and email if needed. Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences - this is exactly the kind of real-world information that's impossible to find on the official SSA website!
Hey everyone, I need some advice on filing for disability benefits for my young child. I've already completed the disability report form online and have a reentry number, but I'm not sure what to do next. Do I need to speak with an agent over the phone or go in person? What documents should I have ready? Any tips on navigating this process would be really helpful!
Hey OP, don't forget to ask about any state-specific programs too. Some states have additional benefits for kids with disabilities.
@Nia Thompson - I went through this exact same process last year with my daughter. After you submit the online form, you'll definitely need to call SSA to schedule a phone interview. They'll ask detailed questions about your child's condition and daily activities. One thing that really helped me was creating a daily log of how your child's disability affects their life - keep track for at least a week before the call. Also, gather ALL medical records, school records if applicable, and any therapy reports. The more documentation you have, the smoother the process will be. The phone wait times are brutal, but try calling first thing in the morning (8 AM) for your best chance. Good luck - you've got this! ๐ช
Maya Lewis
I just went through this exact situation last year! You absolutely CAN earn the entire amount in a shorter period. I worked January-April, made about $21,000, then completely stopped working and had zero issues with SSA. Just make sure you're tracking your YTD earnings carefully. The only thing that tripped me up was I had to explicitly tell my employer I was "retiring" even though I was just quitting that job. This stopped them from contesting my unemployment when I applied for it during the months I wasn't working or collecting SS yet.
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Victoria Jones
AuthorThank you for sharing your real experience! It's reassuring to hear from someone who's actually done this successfully. Good tip about communicating clearly with the employer too - I might be in a similar situation.
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Ravi Sharma
One more thing to consider - if you're planning to work part-time after claiming benefits, you might want to check if your employer offers any flexibility with timing of pay. Some employers can adjust when bonuses or commissions are paid out, which could help you stay under the limit in years when you're subject to the earnings test. Also, if you're thinking about consulting or freelance work, you have more control over when you invoice clients and receive payments. Just another strategy to help manage your earnings timing!
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