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One warning from my experience - watch out for the timing of everything! If they deny your reconsideration and then you request a hearing with the ALJ, there can be a gap where they start taking money. I had that happen and it was a NIGHTMARE getting those funds back even after I won my case. Make sure any attorney you hire knows to file for continued benefits during appeal if that's an option in your case.

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this hapened to my uncle too they took money for 7 months even tho he was fighting it and won!!

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Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I've decided to: 1) File the SSA-632 waiver form TODAY, 2) Contact legal aid in my county tomorrow morning, 3) Submit a FOIA request for my file, and 4) Try to make an in-person appointment at my local office. If legal aid can't help, I'll look for an attorney who specializes in Social Security and works on contingency. I feel so much better having a plan now. Will update once I have news!

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That sounds like an excellent plan. One final suggestion - keep a detailed log of every contact you have with SSA. Note the date, time, who you spoke with (get names if possible), and what was discussed. This documentation can be extremely valuable if your case goes to a hearing.

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i thought the earnings limit was $18,240? thats what my friend told me when i was thinking about applying early

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The $18,240 figure was from 2023. For 2024, it's $22,320 for those under FRA all year. This is why it's important to check the current year's limits as they change annually with cost-of-living adjustments.

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Thanks everyone for the helpful information! I'll wait for the mid-October announcement before finalizing my work plans for next year. And I'll definitely check out those email updates. It's frustrating that they make this so complicated, but at least I understand it better now.

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WAIT I THINK EVERYONE IS MISSING AN IMPORTANT POINT!!! Even if you use the annual limit, if you earn over the ENTIRE annual limit in a single month, ALL your benefits for the year could be withheld! SSA regulations say if you earn more than your annual limit, they withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn over the limit. If you earn the whole $25,410 in January, they'd withhold your ENTIRE annual benefit!!!! BE CAREFUL!!!

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This is incorrect. If you qualify for the Annual Earnings Test, it doesn't matter WHEN during the year you earn the money. You could earn $25,000 in January and $0 the rest of the year, and as long as your total stays under the annual limit ($25,410), there's no reduction in benefits. If you exceed the annual limit, then yes, SSA withholds $1 in benefits for every $2 over the limit, but this is calculated based on total annual earnings, not month-by-month. The Monthly Earnings Test (which doesn't apply in OP's case if they follow the plan) is the only scenario where the timing of earnings matters.

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Just wanted to give a quick update. I called SSA today and spoke with a rep who confirmed what most of you have said. As long as I apply in January WITH January as my benefit month, I can use the annual earnings test for all of 2025. I made sure to specifically tell them I wanted January 2025 as my benefit month, not February. The rep did initially try to set it for February saying "that's our normal procedure" but I politely insisted on January, and they were able to do it. So relieved I don't have to track monthly earnings! Thanks for all your help everyone.

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Great news! Glad you stood your ground. This will make your year SO much easier, especially with variable income. Make sure to keep track of your annual earnings though - if you do go over the annual limit, you'll need to report it.

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To clarify a few technical points: 1. When you were receiving disability benefits on your husband's record, you were actually receiving what's called "Disabled Widow(er)'s Benefits" (DWB), a specific type of survivor benefit, not traditional SSDI on your own record. 2. Now that you've reached your FRA and switched to your own retirement benefit, you've undergone what's called a "technical termination" of your disability status. Your benefit is now calculated and treated exactly like any retirement benefit. 3. The earnings test (which limits how much you can earn) only applies to people receiving benefits before their FRA. Since you're at your FRA, you can earn unlimited amounts without affecting your monthly benefit amount. 4. The question about future work is standard during benefit conversion interviews. It helps the representative determine if they need to explain earnings limitations (not applicable in your case) or provide information about how work might affect taxes on your benefits (which is still relevant). 5. You don't need to report your intention to work to SSA, but your earnings will be reported through normal tax channels, which is all that's required.

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Thank you for such a detailed explanation! That makes so much sense now - I didn't realize I was technically on Disabled Widow's Benefits rather than regular SSDI. The "technical termination" of disability status explains why they were asking those questions. This has been really helpful!

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Just wanted to add that working part-time from home was such a positive thing for me after years on disability. Beyond the extra income, it gave me purpose and routine that actually helped my health in some ways. Hope it works out well for you too!

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thats so true! i volunteer 2 days a week and it keeps me going even though its not paid work. gives me something to look forward to.

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my sister took SS at 62 and her neighbor waited till 70. the neighbor gets like $1000 more a month but my sister already collected for 8 years before neighbor got anything. sister says shell be dead before neighbor catches up lol

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Your sister isn't wrong that there's a breakeven point! But that point is typically around age 80-82 for most people comparing age 62 vs 70 filing. For someone with above-average life expectancy, the total lifetime benefits can be substantially higher when delaying. Each situation is different though - some people genuinely need the money earlier or have health concerns that make early filing reasonable.

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Thanks everyone for the thoughtful responses! After reading all your comments, I've decided to wait until 70 to claim my Social Security. I'll look into the special home renovation loans that were suggested and plan to have the work done after I fully retire. The math of getting an extra $744/month for potentially 20+ years is just too compelling to ignore.

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