anyone else notice how the ssa website says one thing but then the people on the phone tell you something totally different?? its so confusing trying to figure out whats actually true

I'm in a somewhat similar situation and wanted to share what I learned from my research. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that if you do file for spousal benefits at 62, you'll be subject to the earnings test if you're still working (even part-time). They'll reduce your benefits by $1 for every $2 you earn above $23,400 (2024 limit). This might not apply to you if you're not working due to disability, but it's something to keep in mind. Also, I found that creating a my Social Security account online helped me see my estimated benefits and work history, which made it easier to compare my own retirement benefit vs. spousal benefit options. The whole system is definitely confusing, but having those numbers in front of you can help with the decision.

One strategy some people use if they're close to another year of substantial earnings is to work part-time in Social Security covered employment to reach another year threshold. Each additional year between 20-30 reduces your WEP penalty by about 5%. If you're only 1-2 years away from 30 years, it might be worth considering working a bit longer to significantly reduce or eliminate the WEP impact.

I went through this exact situation about 6 months ago! I also had around 22 years of SS-covered work plus a state pension. The harsh reality is that WEP will definitely apply regardless of when you claim - FRA doesn't protect you from it. Based on what others have shared here about the sliding scale, with 22 years you're probably looking at around a $300-400 reduction rather than the full $612 maximum. I'd strongly recommend getting your exact WEP calculation from SSA before making your final decision. Also, double-check that all 22 of your years actually meet the "substantial earnings" threshold - I discovered one of my early years didn't qualify, which changed my calculation. The good news is that even with WEP, you'll still get a significant benefit, just not the full amount you were initially expecting.

Update for everyone following this thread: The latest version of the WEP/GPO repeal bill now includes a 5-year phase-in period with priority given to beneficiaries over 65. The first year would provide 20% relief from GPO, increasing by 20% each year until full repeal in year 5. It also has a "hold harmless" provision ensuring no one would receive less than they do under current rules. The bill has 305 cosponsors in the House (well over the 290 needed to force a vote), so there's real momentum now.

I'm in a very similar situation as a retired teacher dealing with GPO! One thing I learned that might help you is to request a "benefit estimate" from SSA that shows what your ex-spouse benefit would be WITHOUT the GPO offset. They can calculate this for you even though you're currently affected by GPO. When I called, I specifically asked them to run the numbers both ways - with and without GPO - so I could see exactly what I'm missing. The representative was actually very helpful once I explained what I needed. This gave me a clear picture of what to expect if the repeal passes. Also, I'd recommend checking the SSA website for your ex-husband's earnings record if you have access to it. Since ex-spouse benefits are based on his Primary Insurance Amount (what he would get at full retirement age), you can get a rough estimate yourself. At 67, you'd be eligible for the full 50% without any early filing reductions on your part. The waiting is frustrating, but having concrete numbers helps with financial planning in the meantime!

just wondering but what happens with medicare in this scenario? do u still sign up at 65 even if ur not taking ur own benefits yet? i get so confused with all these different rules!!

I'm in a very similar situation - my spouse passed away 3 years ago and I'm approaching 65 while still working full-time. This thread has been incredibly helpful! One thing I want to add based on my research: make sure you understand the "deemed filing" rules. Before your full retirement age, SSA might automatically file you for both benefits even if you only want one. But once you reach your survivor FRA (which sounds like 66 years and 8 months for you), you can file a "restricted application" for survivor benefits only. I'd also recommend getting a written confirmation from SSA about your filing strategy before you submit anything. The stories about applications being processed incorrectly are really concerning. Has anyone here successfully gotten written confirmation of their restricted application strategy before filing?

Based on all the advice here, I'd suggest applying in August 2024 for your January 2025 start date. That gives you 5 months, which should be plenty of buffer for any processing delays. And don't forget to create your my Social Security account online before you apply if you haven't already - it makes the whole process much smoother.

One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned - make sure you have your most recent W-2 or tax return handy when you apply. SSA uses your earnings record to calculate your benefit amount, and sometimes there can be discrepancies that need to be resolved. I discovered when I applied that one of my employers from a few years back hadn't reported my earnings correctly, which delayed my application by about 3 weeks while they sorted it out. You can actually check your earnings record online through your my Social Security account before applying to make sure everything looks accurate. Better to catch any issues early rather than have them pop up during processing!