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Switching from Social Security survivor benefits to retirement at FRA - is my plan financially sound?

I need some guidance on my Social Security planning after losing my husband. He started his SS benefits at 62 due to serious heart problems that left him unable to work. Sadly, he passed away just 3 months after beginning to collect. I've always been the higher earner in our marriage (of 23 years), and had planned to work as long as possible.Now life's thrown me another curveball - I've been diagnosed with both heart issues and cancer. The good news is my cancer prognosis looks positive, but I'm starting a rough chemo regimen next week (every 3 weeks, 6 treatments total), followed by surgery and possibly radiation. I'm self-employed (1099 contractor) with minimal sick time, and will need to reduce my hours significantly due to treatments and appointments.My full retirement age (FRA) is April 2025, but I understand I reach FRA for survivor benefits in December 2024 (4 months earlier). My current income is around $68K annually but will decrease significantly. I'm thinking of filing for survivor benefits in December, then switching to my own higher retirement benefit in April. I plan to continue working part-time permanently - honestly, after everything that's happened, I want to work less and live more while I still can.I've got a small pension from a previous employer, and I've calculated that between reduced work hours, pension, and Social Security, I can manage financially. I live very frugally, have no debt besides a modest mortgage, and have already done most of the traveling I wanted to do.Does this strategy make sense? I'm especially concerned about avoiding any mistakes with the survivor-to-retirement benefit switch that could hurt me financially in the long run. Any insights from those who've navigated similar situations?

Malik Thomas

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Thank you for that perspective and the information about the special calculation! I hadn't heard about that. You make a good point about treatment costs. I've been saving for unexpected expenses, but it's hard to know exactly what I'll be facing. My treatments start next week, so I'm thinking it might still make sense to stick with the December timeline since it's not that far away. I'm trying to balance immediate needs with long-term financial security.Thank you for the well wishes - it means a lot coming from someone who's been through it.

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Carmen Flores

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I want to echo everyone's condolences - dealing with loss, health challenges, and navigating Social Security all at once is incredibly difficult. Your plan shows remarkable foresight given everything you're facing. One additional consideration: since you're self-employed and will be reducing hours significantly during treatment, you might want to calculate your projected 2024 and 2025 earnings carefully. The earnings test calculations can be tricky when your income varies monthly, especially when you're transitioning between different benefit types. Also, I'd strongly recommend getting a recent Social Security statement (you can access it online at ssa.gov/myaccount) to verify your projected retirement benefit amount. This will help you confirm that your own retirement benefit is indeed higher than the survivor benefit you'll be receiving. Your approach of wanting to "work less and live more" resonates deeply. Sometimes life's challenges help us prioritize what truly matters. Wishing you strength through your treatments and a smooth experience with Social Security.

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Evelyn Rivera

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After talking with SSA (took FOREVER to reach someone), I found out something that might help you. Once you've reported your self-employment to them, they'll send you a form called "Report of Work Activity" where you have to estimate your hours and earnings. After you file taxes, they'll adjust based on your actual net earnings. The key is REPORTING PROACTIVELY! Don't wait for them to discover your work activity later - that's how people end up with huge overpayment notices!!

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Mateo Warren

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This is extremely helpful! I'll definitely report my work activity right away. I'd much rather have them withhold some benefits now than get hit with an overpayment notice later. Thank you!

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who went through a similar situation. I'm also on survivor benefits and do freelance work from home. The most important thing I learned is that SSA cares more about your NET income than your hours for the earnings test, but you still need to be prepared to justify your hour calculations if they ask. For pet sitting specifically, I'd recommend creating a simple daily log format: - Date/time: feeding, walking, playtime - Administrative tasks: responding to messages, scheduling - Any other direct care activities Don't count passive time when the dogs are just sleeping or hanging out while you're doing your own activities. But DO count time spent actively supervising if the dogs require constant attention due to behavioral issues, medical needs, etc. Also, make sure you're deducting ALL legitimate business expenses - dog food you provide, cleaning supplies, wear and tear on your home, even a portion of utilities if you're using extra electricity/water. These deductions can really help keep your net earnings under the limit. The most important advice: Report your work activity to SSA as soon as you start. It's so much easier to work with them upfront than deal with overpayment issues later!

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Lmao good luck. I've been trying to set up an appointment for weeks. At this point I'm convinced their customer service is run by clowns 🤡

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Andre Moreau

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Clowns would probably do a better job tbh 😂

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I've had success calling around 2-3 PM on weekdays - seems like there's a lull after lunch when wait times are shorter. Also, if you get disconnected, don't hang up right away! Sometimes the system will automatically call you back within a few minutes. Another trick is to navigate to the "report a problem" or "technical issues" menu option - those lines often have shorter waits and they can usually transfer you to the right department anyway.

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Update: I finally got through to Social Security! The agent confirmed I am eligible for ex-spouse benefits and it will increase my monthly payment by about $370! They're processing my application now. They said I'll only get 6 months of back payments though, which is disappointing considering I could have been receiving this higher amount for nearly 20 years. Still, I'm grateful for the increase going forward. Thanks to everyone for your help and advice!

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Congrats on the increase! Better late than never I guess. My mom missed out on thousands too because nobody told her about widow benefits until years after my dad passed. The system really should do better at informing people.

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Caden Nguyen

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Congratulations on getting through and securing that increase! $370 more per month is significant and will really help with your finances going forward. It's unfortunate about the limited back pay, but you're absolutely right to focus on the positive - you'll be receiving this higher amount for the rest of your life. Your story is a great reminder for others to research all their Social Security options thoroughly. The SSA really should do a better job of informing people about benefits they're entitled to, especially for situations like divorced spouse benefits that aren't always obvious. Thanks for sharing your update - it will definitely help others in similar situations!

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Mei Zhang

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Thank you all for the helpful advice! I'm feeling much more confident about applying online now. I've made notes of everything I need to prepare, and my daughter will help me this weekend. I'll definitely use the official ssa.gov website and save/print my confirmation page when I'm done. Really appreciate everyone's tips!

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Good luck with your application! Don't hesitate to come back if you have any questions during the process.

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Zara Mirza

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One more tip that might help with your tech anxiety - before you start the actual application, try creating a my Social Security account first at ssa.gov. This lets you practice navigating the website and you can view your earnings history to make sure everything looks correct. It's also useful to have this account set up anyway since you'll be able to check your benefit status and manage things online later. The account creation is separate from the application process, so it's a good way to get comfortable with the site without any pressure!

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