How to stop tax withholding from my SS survivor benefits after marriage to younger working spouse?
Need some advice about tax withholding from my Social Security survivor benefits. Back in 2023, someone in this forum suggested I should have taxes withheld since I was getting married to a younger spouse who's still working. I started the withholding in January 2024, but now I'm hearing conflicting advice that I might not need to do this after all. My new husband is 58 and has a decent income (around $75,000/year), while I'm 67 and only getting survivor benefits from my first husband who passed away in 2020. The tax withholding takes about $180 out of my monthly benefit of $2,260. Do I really need this withholding? And more importantly, how do I cancel it for 2025 if I decide to stop it? Do I need to visit an office, call SSA, or can I do this online somehow? Thanks in advance for any help!
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Astrid Bergström
You can stop the withholding by completing a new Form W-4V (Voluntary Withholding Request). Mark the "No, I don't want federal income taxes withheld from my social security benefits" box. You can download the form from the IRS website, fill it out, and mail it to your local Social Security office. SSA doesn't offer this function online yet. As for whether you need withholding - that really depends on your total household income now that you're married. If your combined income pushes you into a higher tax bracket, you might actually need those withholdings to avoid a surprise tax bill next April. Have you talked to a tax professional about your new filing status?
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Ravi Patel
•Thank you for the clear instructions! I'll download that W-4V form right away. No, I haven't talked to a tax person yet - that's probably smart before I make any changes. Do you know roughly how long it takes for SSA to process the form once I mail it in?
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PixelPrincess
Wait i'm confused. I thought survivor benefits weren't taxable?? I've been getting my late husband's benefits for 3 years and never had anything withheld or paid taxes on them. Am I doing something wrong?????
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Omar Farouk
•Social Security survivor benefits are potentially taxable, just like retirement benefits. Whether they're taxed depends on your combined income. If your combined income (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of your Social Security benefits) exceeds certain thresholds, then up to 85% of your benefits may be taxable. Many people don't exceed these thresholds, which is why you might not have had to pay taxes on yours.
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Chloe Martin
You definitely need to consider your tax situation carefully with a working spouse. I thought I didn't need withholding either and ended up owing $3800 in taxes last April! What a shock. Now I have 25% taken out and sleep better at night.
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Ravi Patel
•Oh wow, that's exactly what I'm worried about! I definitely don't want a surprise tax bill. Maybe I should keep the withholding for now until I can talk to an accountant.
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Diego Fernández
When my wife and I were in a simlar situation, we just increased her withholding at her job instead of taking it from SS. might be another option for you. ask ur husband if he can adjust his w4 at work.
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Ravi Patel
•That's a really good idea I hadn't considered! I'll talk to my husband about adjusting his withholding instead. Might be simpler than dealing with SSA paperwork.
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Anastasia Kuznetsov
Try calling the SSA to stop the withholding. But good luck actually reaching anyone! I spent THREE DAYS trying to get through about changing my address. Kept getting disconnected or waiting for hours. I finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an agent in under 10 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Saved me so much frustration. The agent was able to process my W-4V change right over the phone - didn't even need to mail in the form.
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PixelPrincess
•Does that service really work? I've been trying to reach SSA for weeks about my Medicare Part B and keep getting the "all circuits are busy" message!
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Anastasia Kuznetsov
•Yes, it really worked for me! I was skeptical too but was desperate after days of trying. Got through to an actual SSA agent who could make decisions, not just a receptionist. Such a relief after all those busy signals and disconnects.
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Sean Fitzgerald
The TAX SITUATION for SS benefits is SO CONFUSING!! My husband and I are both on Social Security but he still works part-time. Sometimes we owe taxes, sometimes we don't. THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO CONFUSE SENIORS!!
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Omar Farouk
•It can definitely feel overwhelming. The basic rule is that if your combined income (AGI + nontaxable interest + half of SS benefits) exceeds $32,000 for married filing jointly, up to 50% of benefits may be taxable. Above $44,000, up to 85% may be taxable. It's worth consulting with a tax professional who specializes in retirement income to optimize your situation.
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Astrid Bergström
One important thing to consider in your situation - if you stop withholding but still end up owing taxes, you may be subject to an underpayment penalty if you don't pay enough throughout the year. Generally, you need to pay at least 90% of your current year tax or 100% of last year's tax (whichever is smaller) to avoid the penalty. This is another good reason to consult with a tax professional before making changes.
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Ravi Patel
•I hadn't even thought about underpayment penalties. This is getting more complicated than I expected! I think I'll definitely keep the withholding in place until I can talk to a professional. Better safe than sorry.
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Chloe Martin
My sister had a similar situation last year and she ended up using the online tax withholding estimator tool on the IRS website to figure out exactly how much she needed withheld. Have you tried that? It asks about all your income sources and helps calculate what you should withhold.
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Ravi Patel
•That sounds like a helpful tool! I'll look for that on the IRS website. Thanks for the suggestion.
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