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Ben Cooper

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My friend went thru similar thing last year and she said the trick is to get everything in writing. Ask them to send you the policy references. Also my nephew with downs gets both SSI and the disabled adult child benefit but they reduced his SSI when the other benefit started. Still he gets more total $ this way and keeps his medicaid which is the main thing.

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Gael Robinson

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Thanks! Yes, healthcare coverage is definitely our primary concern. I'll make sure to get everything in writing and ask for the specific policy references.

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Rita Jacobs

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I wonder if anyone here has used an attorney to navigate this process? I'm considering it for my own situation with my brother's benefits, but not sure if it's worth the cost or if they can actually help with the SSA bureaucracy.

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Edward McBride

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Attorneys are most helpful for disability claims (SSDI/SSI), where they can represent you in appeals and hearings. For survivors benefit issues like this, they generally can't do much more than provide guidance, as there's no formal appeal process unless benefits are denied. A better resource might be a WIPA (Work Incentives Planning and Assistance) counselor, which is a free service funded by SSA to help beneficiaries navigate complex benefit situations. They're particularly helpful when benefits interact with employment, as in your situation.

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Andre Laurent

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Nia Thompson

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Thanks for the tip! I've had the same problem with calling - either can't get through or wait forever. I'll check out that service because I definitely have more questions about what my options are now.

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Yuki Tanaka

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To summarize what others have correctly stated: You need to have been married for at least 10 consecutive years to qualify for divorced spouse benefits. With only 6 years of marriage, you unfortunately won't be eligible to collect benefits on your ex-husband's record. At this point, I'd recommend: 1. Create a my Social Security account to see your own benefit estimates 2. Consider delaying your benefits until 70 if possible to maximize your monthly amount 3. Review if you have any other ex-spouses from marriages that lasted 10+ years 4. If you've remarried, you may be eligible for spousal benefits on your current spouse's record You mentioned spotty work history, but even with limited work credits, you might qualify for your own retirement benefits. If your own retirement benefit would be very low, you might also want to look into SSI (Supplemental Security Income) depending on your financial situation.

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Nia Thompson

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Thank you for this detailed response! I wasn't aware I could delay until 70 for a higher amount. I do have a my Social Security account but haven't checked it recently. Will definitely look at all these options. No other long marriages unfortunately. Appreciate everyone's help!

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Tyler Murphy

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i was a teacher for 31 years and let me tell u, that GPO is a KILLER!! married my hubby for 22 years and cant get A PENNY of his social security now that hes gone. all because of my teacher pension. if I knew then what I know now, I would have chosen a different career!!! be very careful with your planning

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im so sorry for your loss! that seems so unfair after you worked so hard teaching our kids :

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Serene Snow

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To answer your follow-up question: Yes, the GPO only affects benefits he might receive as a spouse or survivor, not his own earned Social Security. He will always be eligible for his own $1,050 regardless of your marital status. If you marry and you predecease him, he would receive whichever is higher between: 1. His own benefit ($1,050) 2. The GPO-reduced survivor benefit ($3,100 - $1,800 = $1,300) So in this case, marriage would provide an additional $250/month in income if you pass away first. Whether that's worth it depends on your overall financial situation, estate planning goals, health considerations, and how long you expect the survivor situation might last. Also worth noting - if you continue working past your FRA, your benefit amount will continue increasing, which could increase the potential survivor benefit as well.

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Asher Levin

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Thank you for this clear explanation. It sounds like from a pure Social Security perspective, marriage would provide a modest financial benefit, but only in the survivor scenario. We'll need to weigh this against other financial and personal considerations. I do plan to work at least another 2-3 years, so my benefit will likely increase somewhat. Really appreciate everyone's insights on this complicated topic!

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Nia Harris

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one more thing - make sure ur checking the MESSAGE CENTER when u log in not just the dashboard. i thought i had no messages for weeks till someone told me to click on the envelope icon. ss website is so confusing!!

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Zara Mirza

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I just double-checked and looked specifically in the Message Center. Still nothing there. Their website really could use a major overhaul! Thanks for the suggestion though.

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Mateo Sanchez

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@OP after seeing you mention your application is pretty straightforward, I'd definitely give it at least 8 weeks total before getting too concerned. My neighbor just retired and his application took 9 weeks with zero communication, then suddenly one day he got the approval letter. The current backlog is pretty significant. If you're approaching the 8-week mark with no movement though, that's when I'd consider either visiting a field office or finding a way to get through on the phone without the ridiculous wait times.

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Zara Mirza

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That's reassuring to hear about your neighbor. I'll hit the 8-week mark in about 10 days, so I think I'll follow your advice and give it until then before taking further action. Fingers crossed I'll get a surprise approval letter like he did!

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Owen Devar

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Quick update - my brother started his SSDI application online last night after reading all your helpful advice. He got stuck on the part asking about "date disability began" since he's technically still employed but on medical leave. Should he put the date of his diagnosis, the date dialysis started, or the date his leave began?

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Skylar Neal

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He should enter the date he began dialysis treatments. That's typically considered the onset date for disability purposes with ESRD, as it marks when the condition became severe enough to prevent substantial gainful activity. Make sure he uploads or provides his dialysis schedule documentation as supporting evidence.

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Connor Rupert

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tell him good luck!!! my aunt says to make sure he brings his doctors phone numbers and addresses to the application. they ask for ALL that stuff and it slows things down if you dont have it ready

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Owen Devar

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Great tip, thank you! He's been treated at multiple hospitals so I'll help him compile a complete list of all his healthcare providers.

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Isabella Brown

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Have you checked that all your income is showing correctly on your SSA earnings record? My uncle had missing years and it drastically affected his benefit calculation. Definitely worth checking before you retire!

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Andre Laurent

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That's a great point - I just went back and looked at my earnings record. There's actually a year (2011) where my earnings look lower than they should've been. I'll definitely bring this up when I get through to someone at SSA.

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Emily Jackson

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Update on your specific question about finalizing plans: While waiting for the official amount, you can make quite accurate estimates. Your benefit depends on: 1. Your highest 35 years of indexed earnings 2. Your exact age when benefits begin (even months matter) 3. Any applicable reductions (WEP/GPO if relevant) If you've worked more than 35 years, SSA will use your highest-earning 35 years. So if you've earned significantly more in recent years, those higher earnings will replace lower earnings from decades ago in the calculation, potentially boosting your benefit. For budgeting purposes, I suggest using the mySocialSecurity estimate, but be prepared for a 5-15% variance in either direction.

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Andre Laurent

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This is extremely helpful. I've worked for 42 years, and my last 7-8 years were definitely my highest earning. I'm hoping this will positively impact my final benefit amount. I'll budget based on the online estimate but leave some flexibility until I get the official notice. Thanks!

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Melina Haruko

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Something nobody has mentioned yet - if you're younger than your husband, you might want to consider how the age gap affects your strategy. If he's significantly older, it might make sense for him to file later even if you file for spousal benefits early. The math gets complicated with age differences.

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Pedro Sawyer

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That's a good point. He's actually 3 years older than me. Does that change what our strategy should be?

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To answer your follow-up question: You generally cannot claim spousal benefits until your spouse has filed for their own retirement benefits. There used to be a strategy called "file and suspend" that allowed this, but it was eliminated by legislation in 2015. With a 3-year age gap, you might consider having your husband delay filing until closer to his FRA, while you wait until you reach 62 (when he'll be 65) to file for spousal benefits. This balances some early filing reduction with getting benefits sooner rather than later. Just remember: every year you wait (up to age 70 for retirement benefits), your monthly payments increase. But there's no advantage to waiting beyond your FRA for spousal benefits - they don't grow after you reach your FRA.

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Pedro Sawyer

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This is incredibly helpful! I had no idea spousal benefits don't grow after FRA - that's a crucial piece of information. We'll definitely factor this into our planning. Thank you so much for taking the time to explain all this.

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Omar Fawaz

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Just wanted to add that when I called the SSA about my benefits last month, I used that Claimyr service mentioned above. The 3 HOURS I spent trying to call SSA directly got me nowhere, but with Claimyr I got through in about 15 minutes. It was seriously worth it because the agent explained exactly how my conversion would work and what documents I needed to have ready. Made everything so much clearer, especially since the SSA website is so confusing about disability conversion. The video demo at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU shows exactly how it works.

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Javier Torres

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Thanks for sharing your experience. I think I'll give Claimyr a try tomorrow. I'd like to confirm all this directly with SSA before my conversion date gets closer. Appreciate everyone's help here!

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Emma Davis

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BTW dont forget bout paying taxes on ur SS benifits if ur making other money too!! My brother got hit with a big tax bill cuz he didnt know his part time job would make his SS taxable!!

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CosmicCowboy

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One additional consideration: If you claim your own benefits now at 62, and then later switch to survivor benefits, your survivor benefit will be reduced because you're claiming survivors before your FRA. However, the reduction for survivor benefits is different (and generally more favorable) than the reduction for regular retirement benefits. At age 62, retirement benefits are reduced by about 30%, but survivor benefits are only reduced by about 17.5% (to 82.5% of PIA). This is why many financial planners suggest that if you have both options, it's often better to take the reduced benefit first and save the higher benefit for later.

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Paolo Longo

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That makes a lot of sense. So in our case, since my husband's benefit is significantly higher than mine would be, it might make sense for me to claim my own reduced retirement benefit now, and then switch to the survivor benefit (at 82.5% of his PIA) when the time comes. That strategy never occurred to me before.

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Amina Diallo

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quick question - does anyone know if the 82.5% gets any cost of living adjustments? or is it frozen at that amount forever?

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CosmicCowboy

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Yes, survivor benefits do receive the annual Cost of Living Adjustments (COLAs), just like all other Social Security benefits. So the 82.5% of PIA would increase with inflation over time.

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Charlotte Jones

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just wondering... has anyone checked if the marriage would affect other benefits?? my friend lost her Medicare help when she remarried becuz her new husbands income counted against her!! something to think about

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Lucas Bey

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This is an excellent point that's often overlooked. Remarriage can affect income-based programs like Medicare Savings Programs, Extra Help for prescriptions, and Medicaid. These programs look at household income, not just individual income. The Social Security rules about marriage are separate from these income-based program rules.

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Angelica Smith

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I just wanted to update everyone and say THANK YOU for all the helpful information! I've decided to postpone the wedding until right after my 60th birthday so I can keep my options open with the survivor benefits. I've got an appointment with my local SSA office next month to go over everything and make sure I understand all the implications. This forum has been such a lifesaver - I never would have known about the age 60 rule otherwise!

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Lucas Bey

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That sounds like a wise decision! Make sure to bring documentation to your appointment: your current benefit information, your deceased spouse's information, and information about your future spouse's earnings record if possible. It's always good to have them run the actual numbers for your specific situation. Good luck with everything!

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