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I'm turning 66 (my FRA) in July and trying to plan my SS retirement benefits. I understand I can apply up to 4 months before I want benefits to start. My question is: does SSA calculate my benefit amount based on when I APPLY or when I request benefits to BEGIN? For example, if I apply in April but request a start date of July (my birthday month), will my benefit amount be based on April figures or July figures? I'm especially concerned because there's supposed to be a COLA coming, and I don't want to accidentally get a lower benefit amount just because I applied early. Thanks for any help!
I'm trying to plan my retirement finances and I'm confused about how the Cost-of-Living Adjustments (COLAs) work with delayed benefits. I'm currently 66 and planning to wait until 70 to start collecting Social Security to maximize my monthly amount. When I check my estimated benefit on the mySocialSecurity portal, it shows I'd get about $3,450/month if I wait until 70. My question is: will this amount increase with each year's COLA between now and when I turn 70? Or is the estimate I see today fixed, and I'll just get that exact amount when I start collecting in 2029? I'm trying to create an accurate retirement budget and knowing whether those four years of COLAs will be applied makes a big difference in my planning. Thanks for any help understanding this!
my brother told me that the cola increases are only for people already getting benefits and that the ssa uses some wierd formula for everyone else but sounds like he was wrong!!!!
Your brother was confusing two different aspects of Social Security. The COLA is applied to everyone's PIA calculation annually, regardless of claiming status. What he might be thinking of is that the benefit formula itself is based on your 35 highest-earning years, and those past earnings are indexed for wage growth (not COLA) before calculating your initial benefit amount. It gets confusing because SSA uses different types of adjustments for different purposes!
Just wanted to add my perspective as someone who's been through this process! I delayed claiming until 70 last year and can confirm that the COLA increases definitely applied to my benefits during the waiting period. What I found helpful was creating a spreadsheet where I tracked my estimated benefit with conservative COLA projections (I used 2.5% annually) versus more optimistic ones (3.5%). The actual increases ended up being somewhere in between, but having that range helped me feel more confident about my retirement budget. One tip: don't forget that Medicare Part B premiums are often deducted from your Social Security payments, and those premiums can increase annually too. It's a smaller factor but worth including in your planning calculations. Good luck with your decision to wait until 70 - the delayed retirement credits plus COLAs really do make a meaningful difference!
Great question about Medicare Part B premiums! From what I've seen, the standard Part B premium has been going up roughly 3-6% annually in recent years. For example, it went from $164.90 in 2023 to $174.70 in 2024 (about a 6% increase). It's not huge compared to your total Social Security benefit, but over time it does add up. I'd suggest budgeting for maybe a 4-5% annual increase in Medicare premiums as a reasonable planning assumption. The good news is that Social Security COLAs often outpace Medicare premium increases, so your net benefit still tends to grow over time.
Great question about Medicare Part B premiums! From what I've seen, they typically increase by around $5-15 per month each year, though it can vary. For 2025, the standard Part B premium is $185/month, up from $174.70 in 2024. So while it's not huge compared to your Social Security benefit, it does chip away at those COLA increases a bit. The good news is that there's something called the "hold harmless" provision that usually prevents your net Social Security payment from decreasing due to Medicare premium increases, though it can limit how much of the COLA increase you actually see. Definitely worth factoring into your planning!
I got approved for SSDI last December after being diagnosed with multiple sclerosis that's progressed pretty rapidly. Here's my situation: I worked as a real estate agent up until my diagnosis in mid-2023, and I've completely stopped working since then. The problem is I'm still receiving commission checks in 2025 for sales I completed back in 2022 and early 2023 (before I became disabled). These delayed commissions are substantial - about $4,600 so far. I haven't worked AT ALL this year, and I can prove it with documentation. But I'm terrified about these commission payments affecting my SSDI. Do I need to report this income to Social Security even though it's for work I did BEFORE becoming disabled? Or do they only care about my current work status? I've called the SSA three times and gotten three different answers. One rep said I don't need to report it since I didn't perform the work this year, another said I absolutely must report any income regardless of when I earned it, and the third just seemed confused. Has anyone dealt with delayed commissions while on SSDI? I'm afraid of accidentally committing fraud, but also worried about losing benefits I desperately need right now.
Thank you everyone for the advice! I'm going to gather all my documentation showing when the work was actually performed and report these commissions right away. I'll make it clear that I haven't done any work since becoming disabled. It sounds like as long as I'm transparent and can prove when I earned the income, it shouldn't affect my benefits. I'm still nervous about dealing with SSA given all the horror stories, but at least I feel more prepared now.
As someone who's been on SSDI for about 2 years now, I can tell you that being proactive with SSA is absolutely the right call. I learned this the hard way when I failed to report some freelance income from before my disability started - even though it was clearly from prior work, SSA flagged it and I had to spend months proving it wasn't current work activity. One thing I'd add to the great advice already given: when you contact SSA, ask them to make notes in your file about the conversation. This creates a paper trail that shows you were transparent about the situation from the beginning. Also, if possible, try to get any important information in writing - either through your online account or by asking them to mail you a summary of what was discussed. The fact that you're asking these questions and being careful about reporting shows you're handling this the right way. MS is tough enough without having to worry about benefit complications. Hang in there!
Just had an interesting meeting at my local Social Security office yesterday. I'm at my full retirement age (66 and 10 months) and the claims specialist told me something that sounds too good to be true - that I could start collecting about $1,600 on my ex-husband's record now and then switch to my own benefit when I turn 70. We were married for 22 years before divorcing 5 years ago. I've worked consistently but my ex always had a much higher income. I was under the impression that if you file for any SS benefit, you're automatically filing for all benefits you're eligible for (something about deemed filing?). But the claims specialist was pretty confident about this strategy. Has anyone done this? Is this really possible? I'm worried about making a mistake that could cost me thousands over my lifetime. Any advice would be appreciated!
Update: I called the SSA this morning and finally got through to someone. The new agent confirmed that I CANNOT do the restricted application strategy because I was born after January 1, 1954. Apparently the claims specialist I met with gave me incorrect information! She explained that when I file, I'll simply get the higher of either my own benefit or my ex-spouse benefit (about 50% of his). If I wait until 70, my own benefit will grow by 8% per year, which will definitely be higher than my ex-spouse benefit at that point. Thanks everyone for your help - you saved me from making a big mistake based on incorrect information!
I'm glad you got accurate information! This is a perfect example of why it's always good to verify important benefit information with multiple sources. In your case, waiting until 70 to claim your own retirement benefit is likely still the best strategy if you can afford to wait and expect to live past your early 80s. The 8% per year increase from FRA to 70 is hard to beat as an investment return.
This whole thread is making me nervous... I'm turning FRA next month and planned to do exactly what the original poster described (take ex-spouse benefits now, switch to mine at 70). Now I'm worried! I was born in 1953 though, so maybe I'm still ok? Does anyone know for sure?
Yes, you're fine! If you were born in 1953, you're still eligible for the restricted application strategy. The cutoff is being born on or before January 1, 1954. So you just made it under the wire. Make sure to specify that you want to file a "restricted application for spousal benefits only" when you apply. Don't just say you want to apply for benefits or they might assume you want to file for all available benefits.
@Marcus Marsh is absolutely right - you re'still eligible since you were born in 1953! Just to add to his advice, when you go to apply, I d'recommend bringing a copy of the SSA s'own documentation about restricted applications for people born before 1954. Some representatives still get confused about the rules. Also, make sure your ex-husband is entitled to benefits he (doesn t'have to be collecting them, just entitled .)Good luck!
I just checked my bank account and noticed a deposit from Social Security that I wasn't expecting. It's labeled as a 'one time payment' but it's different from my regular monthly benefit amount (about $1,850 less than my usual payment). There's no explanation for it on my mySocialSecurity account - I checked all the messages and notices sections and found nothing. I even asked one of those AI assistants what it might be, but it just gave me general information about SS payments that wasn't helpful. Has anyone else received random one-time payments? Could this be some kind of COLA adjustment or backpay I wasn't aware of? I'm worried they might have made a mistake and will ask for it back later.
whatever u do MAKE SURE u document everything. get names of who u talk to, confirmation #s, & take notes during the call. my mom got a payment, spent it, then 8 months later they said it was a mistake & wanted it back!
I'm new to this community but wanted to share my recent experience since it sounds very similar to yours! I received an unexpected one-time payment about 6 weeks ago and was also worried it might be an error. After calling SSA (took several attempts to get through), it turned out to be a retroactive adjustment from when they updated my earnings record with some missing quarters from a previous employer. The agent explained that these adjustments can happen years later when they receive updated information from employers or when they do periodic reviews of benefit calculations. In my case, it resulted in a slight increase to my monthly benefit going forward PLUS the back pay for the difference. Definitely call to confirm, but don't panic - legitimate adjustments like this are more common than you might think. Just make sure to get everything in writing like others suggested!
Lena Kowalski
As someone who recently went through this process at my FRA, I can confirm what others have said - your benefit amount is definitely calculated based on your chosen start date, not your application date. I applied 3 months early and specifically selected my birthday month as the start date. The SSA representative I spoke with explained that the early application window exists precisely so they have time to process everything while still calculating your benefits based on when you actually want them to begin. One thing I'd add is to make sure you have all your documents ready when you apply - W-2s, tax returns, etc. Even though you're applying early, having everything organized will make the process smoother. And don't worry about the COLA - if there's an adjustment between now and July, it will automatically be included in your benefit calculation. You're smart to plan ahead!
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CaptainAwesome
@f59779e06f95 Great questions! From my experience, besides W-2s and tax returns, you'll want to have your Social Security statement (you can get this from your my Social Security account online), any military service records if applicable, and information about any pensions from previous employers. I also had my birth certificate handy, though they didn't end up needing it since they already had that info on file. As for the application method, I actually did mine online and found it pretty straightforward - it walks you through each section and you can save your progress if you need to take breaks. The online system also lets you upload documents directly. However, I did call afterwards to double-check that my start date was correctly entered, and that gave me peace of mind. If you're comfortable with online forms, I'd recommend starting there since you can do it at your own pace. You can always call if you run into issues or have specific questions!
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Cole Roush
@f59779e06f95 I can share what I had ready when I applied! Beyond W-2s and tax returns (I brought the last 3 years to be safe), I also had my Social Security statement (you can get this from ssa.gov), birth certificate, and bank account information for direct deposit setup. If you're married, you might need your spouse's Social Security number and birth date too. I found the online application pretty user-friendly actually - it saves your progress as you go, so you don't have to complete it all at once. The system walks you through each section and tells you exactly what documents you'll need before you start. I'd recommend trying online first since you can do it at your own pace, but keep that Claimyr service in mind as a backup if you need to speak with someone directly. The online application took me about 45 minutes total, and I could pause and come back to it when I needed to look up information.
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Astrid Bergström
This has been such a valuable thread! I'm 65 and planning to apply at my FRA next year, but I've been putting off even researching the process because I was intimidated by all the conflicting information I'd seen online. Reading through everyone's actual experiences here - from CosmicCaptain's recent success story to the detailed explanations from Emma Davis and Javier Torres - has made this so much clearer. The consistent message that your benefit calculation is based on your start date, not your application date, makes complete sense now. It's reassuring to know I can apply early without any financial penalty and still get the full benefit amount I'm entitled to at my FRA. I particularly appreciate the tip about Claimyr for getting through to SSA - I've been dreading trying to call them with my questions, but knowing there's a way to actually reach someone gives me hope. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge and real-world experiences. This community is incredibly helpful!
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Ravi Choudhury
@f0a5c9e0aa63 I'm so glad this thread helped demystify the process for you! I was in a similar position a couple years ago - overwhelmed by all the contradictory information online about Social Security timing. What really made the difference for me was understanding that SSA designed the system logically: they give you the early application window purely for administrative convenience, but your actual benefit amount is always calculated based on when you want benefits to start. It's like reserving a table at a restaurant - you can make the reservation weeks ahead, but you still get seated (and charged) based on when you actually show up! The fact that so many people in this thread have had the same positive experience really validates that this is how the system consistently works. Don't let the process intimidate you - once you understand this key principle, everything else falls into place. And yes, definitely try that Claimyr service if you need to speak with SSA directly. Having actual human confirmation of what you've read here can be really reassuring when you're dealing with something as important as your retirement benefits.
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