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One more thing to consider: if you can't qualify for survivor benefits based on this marriage, check if you might qualify based on your previous marriage if it lasted at least 10 years. If you were married to your ex for 10+ years, you could potentially claim survivor benefits on his record when he passes (or even spousal benefits if he's still living and you're both old enough). Also, when you apply, bring any evidence that you held yourselves out as married to the community - joint bank accounts, insurance policies listing each other as spouses, deeds or leases showing both names, even holiday cards addressed to you as a married couple. SSA looks at the totality of circumstances in cases like yours.
Unfortunately my previous marriage only lasted 8 years, so that won't help. But the tip about bringing evidence we presented ourselves as married is super helpful! I have plenty of that - insurance policies, joint accounts, even our wills that refer to each other as spouses. I'll gather all of that before applying. Thank you!
Thanks for updating us! This makes much more sense. Yes, SSI does have strict asset limits, so the SSA representative was correct about that program. This is a common area of confusion for many people. If your father's only income is his Social Security retirement benefit and it's on the lower end, it can sometimes be worth looking into SSI as a supplement. But with $300k in savings, he definitely wouldn't qualify until those assets were spent down substantially. Glad you got this sorted out!
Another thing to consider is taxes - a lump sum payment for 6 months might bump you into a higher tax bracket for that year. You might want to talk to a tax professional before making the decision. Sometimes it's better to just start benefits when you're ready without the backpay.
My husband and I went through this exact same situation last year. Filed 5 months after his FRA and requested backdating. The Medicare premium refund was a complete nightmare - Social Security and Medicare kept pointing fingers at each other saying the other agency needed to handle it. We finally got it sorted, but it took calling SSA multiple times. Just be persistent!
wait im confused now... so if her husband takes survivor benefits at 60 but keeps working until 62, would he lose some of those payments? and does the survivor benefit amount depend on when she dies or is it always the same?
Let me clarify both points: 1. Yes, if he claims survivor benefits before his FRA while still working, the earnings test would apply. For 2025, he can earn approximately $22,320 before benefits are affected. Above that, $1 in benefits is withheld for every $2 earned. So if he's earning substantially more than that limit, some or all of his survivor benefits could be temporarily withheld. 2. The survivor benefit amount is based on several factors: - If the deceased was already receiving benefits, the survivor benefit is generally based on that amount - If the deceased wasn't receiving benefits, it's based on what they would have received at their FRA - The survivor's age when they claim affects the percentage they receive (reduced if claiming before their own FRA) In the original poster's case, since she's already receiving SSDI, her husband's survivor benefit would be based on her current benefit amount (potentially with adjustments), then reduced if he claims before his FRA.
Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! Based on your responses, it sounds like our plan makes sense. My husband will probably wait until he actually retires at 62 to claim any survivor benefits (if I pass away before then) to avoid the earnings test issues. Then he can still switch to his own benefit at 70. Can anyone recommend the best way to get this strategy confirmed officially with SSA? Should we make an appointment at our local office or is there a specific department we should call?
For complex claiming strategies like this, I'd recommend scheduling an in-person appointment at your local SSA office. Bring documentation showing both your current SSDI benefit amount and your husband's latest Social Security statement showing his projected benefits at different ages. When you make the appointment, specifically request to speak with a "Technical Expert" rather than a regular Claims Representative. Technical Experts have more specialized training on complex benefits scenarios. You might also want to print relevant sections from SSA's Program Operations Manual System (POMS) about survivor benefits and switching between benefit types. This is the internal rulebook SSA employees use, and having the exact references can help ensure you get accurate information. The relevant sections are DI 10115 for SSDI conversion to survivor benefits and RS 00615 for switching between different benefit types. Finally, get any advice in writing if possible, or take detailed notes including the name of the SSA representative you speak with.
Seraphina Delan
For your specific situation with a 12-year age gap, here's what you should consider: 1. Your husband should coordinate Medicare enrollment at 65 regardless of when he takes Social Security 2. Since you're only 52, you have 10+ years before you reach your own eligibility for retirement benefits 3. Given your age difference, maximizing your husband's benefit has long-term advantages: - Higher survivor benefits for you if he passes away first - Increased household income when you're both in your 70s and 80s - Protection against longevity risk (outliving your money) 4. For self-employed individuals with historically low reported income: - Yes, working a W-2 job with higher reported income for even 3-5 years can significantly increase benefits - Consider restructuring your business to pay yourselves higher W-2 wages if possible - Look into voluntary increased contributions to Social Security (there are limitations) The book recommendation from another commenter is excellent. I'd also suggest scheduling a consultation with an SSA claims specialist to review your specific earnings record and options. Their expertise is free and they can model different claiming strategies based on your exact situation.
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Niko Ramsey
just wanted to add that the medicare part is totally different from ss benefits! my husband signed up for medicare right at 65 but waited till 68 for his ss checks to start. you can do them separate
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