Social Security Administration
CommunityGovernment Services


Ask the community...
My father passed away last Thursday and I'm trying to navigate all the paperwork. I just found out about the Social Security lump-sum death benefit of $255. I'm not sure about the timing - should I apply for this now after I get the death certificate, or do I need to wait until after his estate goes through probate? The funeral director mentioned something about it but wasn't clear on the process. Has anyone gone through this recently? I'm the executor of his estate if that matters for who should be applying. I've never dealt with any of this before and want to make sure I'm doing everything in the right order.
I've been wondering about something for a while now and finally decided to ask. My husband passed away suddenly when he was 39 (I was 32 then) and I was 7 months pregnant with our daughter. After she was born, I did receive survivor benefits for her, but I never claimed anything for myself as I continued working full-time. That was back in 1989. Fast forward to 2013, I had to take disability retirement due to severe rheumatoid arthritis. My employer plan required me to apply for SSDI at the same time. When I turned 65 in 2023, my disability benefits automatically converted to regular retirement benefits. I know I'm getting less than my full retirement amount since SSDI essentially forced me to claim early. My question is: After all these years (36 to be exact), am I eligible for any survivor benefits based on my late husband's record? We were married for just under 2 years when he passed. I've never remarried. I've seen posts about people getting higher benefits based on their spouse's earnings, but I'm not sure if that applies in my situation since it's been so long and our marriage was relatively short. I know I paid into Social Security much more than my husband did since his career was cut short, if that matters. Any insights?
I just want to thank everyone for their helpful responses. I had no idea I might still be eligible for survivor benefits after all these years! I've scheduled an appointment with my local SSA office for next week and will bring all the documents suggested. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too high since my husband was so young when he died and didn't have a long work history, but even a small increase would be helpful with my medical bills. I'll update once I find out what they say. I appreciate all of you taking the time to respond to my situation!
Good luck with your appointment! One more tip: take notes during your meeting and ask for any benefit calculations in writing. Sometimes different SSA representatives give different answers, so having written documentation of what you were told can be helpful if you need to follow up later. Please do come back and let us know how it goes!
I'm so glad you're pursuing this! Your situation really highlights how important it is for people to know about all their potential benefits. The fact that you've been eligible for survivor benefits this whole time but didn't know it is unfortunately way too common. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - when you go to your appointment, you might also want to ask about Medicare Supplement Insurance benefits if you're not already enrolled. Sometimes people on disability retirement miss out on certain Medicare enrollment opportunities, and survivor benefits can sometimes affect your Medicare options too. Also, don't be discouraged if the first person you talk to seems unsure about the calculations for such an old case. These situations with decades-old survivor benefits don't come up every day, so you might need to ask to speak with a supervisor or specialist who has more experience with complex survivor benefit calculations. Persistence really pays off with SSA! Wishing you the best of luck - I really hope you get some good news that helps with those medical expenses!
I just turned full retirement age last month and have an appointment with SSA next week about survivor benefits from my ex-spouse. But now I'm worried about a new complication. I received paperwork in the mail saying I'm entitled to about $5,800 from my deceased father's retirement account. The letter states they'll withhold 20% for federal taxes and possibly another 5% for state taxes (depending on certain criteria). So after withholding, I'd receive roughly $4,200. My question is: Will receiving this inheritance affect my Social Security benefits at all? Specifically, will it impact the survivor benefits I might get from my ex? The timing is terrible - I need to call the retirement plan administrator on Monday to verify some details, but my SSA appointment is scheduled before I'll have all the information about this inheritance. Should I reschedule my SSA meeting until I know more about this retirement account distribution? Or is this inheritance completely separate and won't affect my Social Security at all?
Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! I feel much better now. To summarize what I've learned: 1. The inheritance from my father's retirement account won't affect my Social Security benefits 2. Since I'm at FRA, I don't need to worry about the earnings test regardless 3. The 20% tax withholding is standard but I might be able to adjust it 4. I should keep my SSA appointment to discuss the survivor benefits from my ex-spouse I'll call the retirement plan administrator on Monday to get more details about the account type and tax implications, but I won't stress about it affecting my Social Security. Really appreciate all the insights!
That's a perfect summary! One last tip - keep documentation of both the retirement account distribution and your Social Security benefit determination letters together in a folder. Having everything in one place will be helpful when you file your taxes next year, as there can be tax implications regarding how much of your Social Security benefits are taxable based on your overall income.
Great advice from everyone here! Just wanted to add that when you do receive the distribution, make sure to save all the paperwork (1099-R form, etc.) that the retirement plan sends you. Even though this won't affect your Social Security benefits, you'll definitely need those documents for tax filing purposes. Also, since you mentioned you're new to navigating all these Social Security rules - the SSA website has a really helpful benefit calculator tool that can give you estimates for different scenarios. It's under the "Retirement Estimator" section. Might be worth checking out before your appointment so you have a better sense of what to expect with the survivor benefits vs. your own retirement benefit. Good luck with your appointment next week!
I'm turning 65 next month but plan to continue working full-time ($92,000/year). I'm a widower with a 12-year-old daughter who would qualify for benefits when I file for retirement. I understand that since I'm under FRA and earning way above the annual limit ($21,240 for 2025?), my own benefits would be reduced or eliminated until I reach my full retirement age. But I'm confused about what happens to my daughter's benefits. Will her auxiliary benefits also get reduced because of MY earnings? Or does the earnings test only apply to my benefits while hers would be paid in full? This would make a huge difference in my decision to file now or wait. Thanks for any clarity on this confusing situation!
have u thought about reducing ur hours just enough to get under the limit? might be worth it depending on how much ur kid would get
One thing to keep in mind is that the earnings test applies monthly, not just annually. So if you're planning to retire completely at some point during the year (even if you turn 65), you could potentially receive benefits for the months after you stop working, even if your total annual earnings exceed the limit. The SSA uses a monthly test of $1,770 (for 2025) in addition to the annual limit. This might give you some flexibility in timing if you're considering full retirement in the next year or two. Also, make sure you understand exactly when your FRA is - for someone turning 65 in 2025, your FRA is likely 66 and some months, not 66 exactly.
I'm going to retire next month, right after I turn 70. Been working non-stop since 1978 so I've maxed out my delayed retirement credits. My wife has a different situation though. She just turned 65 in April and we've decided she should apply for her retirement benefits now, even though she hasn't reached her full retirement age yet. She had to stop working back in 2012 due to some ongoing health problems, but she has about 22 years of work history before that. With me taking maximum benefits and her taking slightly reduced ones, does anyone see potential problems with this approach? We're trying to figure out if there's anything we're missing with this dual filing strategy. Is it worth making an appointment at our local SSA office to discuss this, or is filing online sufficient? I've heard horror stories about benefit calculation errors and don't want to leave money on the table.
To follow up on my earlier comment, when your wife files, SSA should automatically determine which is higher - her own reduced retirement benefit or her reduced spousal benefit. However, there's an important timing consideration here. Since you haven't filed for your own benefits yet, your wife can only get her own retirement benefit initially. Once you file next month, SSA should automatically recalculate to see if she qualifies for an additional amount as a spouse. This happens because spousal benefits can't be paid until the primary worker (you) has filed. This two-step process sometimes gets overlooked in the system, which is why having records of everything and following up is crucial. I'd suggest calling SSA or using the Claimyr service someone mentioned about 30 days after you file to ensure the spousal calculation was properly processed.
This is really helpful information. So if I understand correctly, she should apply for her retirement benefits now, and then after I file next month, SSA should automatically check if she qualifies for additional spousal benefits? Does she need to file anything additional after I apply, or is this supposed to happen automatically?
It should happen automatically, but the keyword is "should." Given SSA's current staffing issues and backlog, things that should be automatic sometimes fall through the cracks. When you file next month, I'd recommend specifically mentioning that your wife is already receiving benefits and you want to ensure her spousal benefits are evaluated. Then follow up in 30-60 days if you don't see any changes to her payment amount. Documentation and persistence are your best tools when dealing with SSA.
Just wanted to add another perspective here - I work as a benefits coordinator and see these dual filing situations regularly. Your approach is solid, but I'd recommend getting everything in writing from SSA when you meet with them or speak by phone. One thing I've noticed is that the online system sometimes doesn't capture the nuances of spousal benefit calculations correctly, especially when there are timing differences like yours. The representatives can manually override the system when needed, but only if they understand your full situation. Also, keep detailed records of when each of you files and what amounts you're initially awarded. This makes it much easier to catch errors early. I've seen cases where the spousal benefit adjustment took 3-6 months to process correctly, and having your own documentation helped expedite the corrections. Your timing strategy makes financial sense - getting some income flowing now while maximizing the higher earner's benefit is often the optimal approach for couples with significant age or earnings differences.
Keisha Williams
To follow up on my earlier comment - after seeing your response about not receiving benefits on your father's record, I checked the SSA rules again. Unfortunately, adult children who weren't receiving benefits on the deceased parent's record generally aren't eligible for the lump-sum death benefit unless they were disabled before age 22 and receiving SSDI based on the parent's work record. However, I still recommend contacting SSA to confirm, as there are sometimes exceptions based on individual circumstances. Focus on notifying them about your father's passing and returning any benefits paid after his death - that's more important than the $255 at this point.
0 coins
NebulaNova
AuthorThank you for checking on this. I'll still verify with SSA, but will focus more on making sure his monthly benefits are properly handled. I appreciate everyone's help during this difficult time.
0 coins
Hattie Carson
My condolences on your father's passing. I went through this exact situation last year. Just to add some clarity - the funeral home or mortuary can actually help notify Social Security of the death when they file the death certificate, but it's still good to call yourself to make sure it was processed. When I called SSA after my dad passed, they were able to tell me immediately if I was eligible for the death benefit during that same call. Even though the amount is small, every bit helps with funeral expenses. The key documents you'll need are: death certificate, your father's SSN, your own SSN and ID. One thing I learned - if your dad had any automatic payments set up from his bank account for bills, you'll want to contact those companies too since his SSN will show as deceased in their systems eventually. Just thought I'd mention it since you're handling the executor duties.
0 coins