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Can I collect reduced Social Security ex-spouse benefits at 62 if my ex isn't collecting yet?

I'm trying to figure out my options for Social Security after my divorce. Here's my situation: I was married for 30 years before getting divorced a little over 2 years ago. I'm currently 59 and my ex-husband is 62. The problem is I don't have enough work credits to qualify for SS benefits on my own record. I've been looking at the ex-spouse benefit information on the SSA website but I'm confused about the timing. Can I claim on my ex's record when I turn 62 even if he hasn't started collecting his benefits yet? And would I get the reduced rate since I'd be claiming early? I haven't remarried, if that matters. Any help understanding this would be appreciated!

I just realized something else I should have mentioned - I did work part-time for many years but it was all under the table (cleaning houses) so I never paid into Social Security. I'm wondering if that affects anything or if there's any way to count some of that work now?

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Unfortunately, work that wasn't reported to the IRS ("under the table") doesn't count toward Social Security credits. There's no way to retroactively claim those earnings now without potentially triggering tax issues for those prior years. However, if you're still working, even part-time, you could start building credits now. You need 40 credits (10 years of work) to qualify for retirement benefits on your own record. In 2025, you earn one credit for each $1,750 in covered earnings, up to 4 credits per year. If collecting on your ex-spouse's record is your best option, that's perfectly fine. Just be aware that if you do accumulate enough credits for your own benefit, SSA will pay your own benefit first, and then supplement it with ex-spouse benefits if your ex's record would provide a higher amount.

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Just wanted to add one important point that might help with your planning - even though you can claim ex-spouse benefits at 62, you might want to consider waiting a bit longer if possible. The reduction isn't just a small amount - it's permanent and significant. At 62, you'd get about 32.5-35% of your ex's full benefit amount, but if you wait until your Full Retirement Age (likely 67), you'd get the full 50%. That's a substantial difference that will last for the rest of your life. I know it's tough to wait when you need the income, but even waiting a few extra years could make a big financial difference. You might want to run the numbers to see if you can make it work with other income sources until you're closer to your FRA.

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This is really helpful advice, thank you! I've been so focused on just getting some income that I hadn't fully considered the long-term impact of that permanent reduction. You're right - the difference between 32.5% and 50% is huge over a lifetime. I think I need to sit down and really crunch the numbers to see if I can stretch my current savings and maybe find some part-time work to bridge the gap. Do you happen to know if there are any calculators or tools that can help estimate what those dollar amounts would actually look like? It would help to see the real numbers rather than just percentages.

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The SSA website has a retirement estimator tool at ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/estimator.html that can help with basic calculations, though it's more designed for your own benefits. For ex-spouse benefits, you'll need to estimate your ex's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) - what he'd get at his full retirement age. If you know roughly what he earned during his working years, you can get a ballpark figure. A financial advisor or elder law attorney might also be worth consulting since they often have more sophisticated calculators and can help you model different scenarios. Some local Area Agencies on Aging offer free financial counseling for seniors that could be helpful too. The key is to factor in not just the monthly difference, but also consider your life expectancy - even a few hundred dollars more per month adds up to tens of thousands over 20+ years of retirement.

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Can I switch from my late husband's SS benefits to my ex-husband's when I reach FRA?

I'm currently 63 and receiving survivor benefits from my second husband who passed away last year. We were married for 12 years. Before him, I was married to my first husband for 18 years before we divorced in 2002. I just found out that my ex-husband had a much higher income than my late husband throughout his career. I'm wondering if I can switch from collecting on my late husband's record to collecting on my first husband's record? Would this increase my monthly benefit? I'm so confused about how this all works with having both an ex-spouse and being widowed. Also, does it matter that I haven't spoken to my ex in over 20 years? Do I need his permission or something?

Thank you everyone for your helpful advice! I've learned so much. I'm going to try the Claimyr service to get through to SSA this week and make sure I ask about WEP/GPO since I did have that teaching pension. I'll gather all my documents and request benefit estimates for all three scenarios. I really appreciate all your help - this has been so confusing to figure out on my own!

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As someone who went through a similar situation a few years ago, I want to emphasize something that hasn't been mentioned yet - timing is everything! Since you're already 63 and receiving reduced survivor benefits, you need to be very strategic about any switches. One thing to consider: if your ex-husband is still alive and hasn't claimed his benefits yet, his benefit amount could still increase if he delays claiming until age 70. However, your divorced spouse benefit would still be calculated on his Full Retirement Age amount (50%), not his delayed retirement amount. Also, keep detailed records of every conversation you have with SSA representatives. Get names, dates, and case numbers. I had conflicting information from different reps and having documentation helped resolve the confusion later. The GPO/WEP issue mentioned by others is serious - I know teachers who were shocked to discover their benefits were reduced by amounts they never knew about. Make sure you get this in writing from SSA, not just verbal confirmation. Good luck with Claimyr - that service has helped several people I know get through to SSA much faster than calling directly!

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Social Security increased my disabled teen's survivor benefits but terminated Medicaid - desperate for help!

I'm in a complete panic over my daughter's healthcare coverage. My 15-year-old daughter has been receiving survivor benefits from her late father's Social Security record since he passed away 3 years ago. Because of her disabilities (severe anxiety, depression, and a rare autoimmune condition), she was also receiving SSI and Medicaid. Yesterday, I received two different letters from Social Security. The first one said they're increasing her survivor benefits by $625 because her stepsister (her dad's other child) just turned 18 and aged out of benefits. But the second letter said they're terminating her SSI completely AND her Medicaid coverage ends at the end of this month! She takes 6 different medications that cost over $1,200 without insurance and sees both a psychiatrist and rheumatologist monthly. I'm a part-time caregiver for her and don't have employer health insurance. Even with the increased survivor benefits, I can't possibly afford her medical expenses. Can I appeal this decision? Is there any way to keep her Medicaid even though they're ending her SSI? I don't understand why they're punishing her for getting more survivor benefits when she still has the same disabilities and medical needs!

I've been following this thread, and I wanted to circle back - did you manage to file the appeal yet? Remember that if you request the continuation of benefits during appeal (by checking that box on the SSA-561 form), they should continue her Medicaid during the appeal process. This buys you time to explore the state-specific programs others have mentioned. Don't wait on this - the 10-day window for continued benefits during appeal is crucial.

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Yes! I printed the form yesterday and submitted it this morning at our local SSA office. I checked the box to continue benefits during appeal. The representative wasn't very helpful with explaining my other options, but at least the appeal is filed. I have an appointment with our state Medicaid office tomorrow to discuss the Katie Beckett program and the disability buy-in option. Thank you for checking back!

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I'm so glad to hear you got the appeal filed and have the Medicaid appointment scheduled! That's exactly the right approach. When you meet with the Medicaid office tomorrow, also ask about Missouri's "MO HealthNet for the Disabled" program - Missouri does participate in several disability-specific Medicaid programs that aren't tied to SSI eligibility. One more thing to consider while you're exploring options: if your daughter's medications are name-brand, ask her doctors about patient assistance programs directly from the pharmaceutical companies. Many offer free or deeply discounted medications for families in situations like yours. It's not a permanent solution, but it can help bridge the gap while you get the Medicaid sorted out. You're doing an amazing job advocating for her - I know it feels overwhelming, but you're taking all the right steps!

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Social Security survivor benefits with GPO - denied retroactive payment before FRA?

I'm so confused about survivor benefits and this whole GPO nightmare! My husband passed away in 2022 and I initially applied for survivor benefits in April 2023. At that time, the SSA told me my government pension completely wiped out any survivor benefits due to the Government Pension Offset (GPO). Fast forward to January 9, 2025 - I decided to reapply because my pension amount changed, and I had my phone interview with SSA today. The agent told me I WILL qualify for some survivor benefits now (about $650/month), which is great news! But then she said since I'm not at Full Retirement Age yet (I'm 62), I won't get ANY retroactive benefits dating back to my January application. Is this actually correct? I thought survivor benefits could be paid up to 6 months retroactively regardless of age? Or is there a special rule with GPO cases? I'm so frustrated trying to understand all these different rules and exceptions!

Please update us on what happens! I'm curious because my mom is in a similar situation with her teacher's pension and survivor benefits. The whole GPO thing is SO complicated and unfair. I swear they make these rules confusing on purpose!

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I definitely will! I'm calling tomorrow and will specifically ask about retroactive benefits with GPO and mention that POMS section. Fingers crossed I get someone who understands these rules!

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One week later: Any update on your situation? Were you able to get through to someone who properly understood the GPO rules for retroactive survivor benefits?

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YES! Success! I finally got through to a technical expert who confirmed I AM eligible for retroactive benefits back to November 2024 (when my pension changed). Not the full 6 months I was hoping for, but still about $1,950 in back payments I would have missed if I hadn't pushed back. Thank you all for your help and advice!

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That's fantastic news! So glad you persisted and got the retroactive benefits you deserved. Your experience really highlights how important it is to keep pushing when dealing with complex GPO situations. Thanks for sharing the outcome - this will definitely help others in similar situations know not to give up after the first "no"!

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Can my husband get higher Social Security through spousal benefits when he earns 50% less than me?

So my husband is planning to retire in about 2 years when he turns 65. He currently makes significantly less than I do - roughly 50% of my monthly income. I've been working consistently for 35+ years with higher earnings, while he's had some gaps and lower-wage jobs over his career. We're trying to maximize our household retirement income and I'm wondering about the spousal benefit option. Can he qualify for an increased Social Security amount by claiming spousal benefits based on my earnings record? And if he does that, will it reduce my own Social Security benefits in any way? I've heard mixed things about this from friends and don't fully trust the information I'm finding online. Looking for anyone who's been through this situation themselves! Thanks in advance for any help!

Also consider tax implications if you're still working. Up to 85% of Social Security benefits can be taxable if your combined income is high enough. Something to factor in when deciding when he should claim.

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THIS!!! My wife started her SS at 62 while I was still working at a good salary and we got HAMMERED on taxes. Almost made it not worth claiming early. Definitely talk to a tax person about this before deciding!!!

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One thing to keep in mind is that even though your husband makes 50% less than you, his spousal benefit might not actually be higher than his own benefit depending on his work history. The spousal benefit is up to 50% of YOUR Primary Insurance Amount (what you'd get at full retirement age), but if he's been working steadily even at lower wages, his own benefit could still be substantial. I'd recommend both of you create accounts on ssa.gov to see your estimated benefits. That way you can compare his projected benefit at 65 versus what 50% of your PIA would be (reduced to about 45.8% since he'd be claiming early). This will help you figure out if the spousal benefit would even make a difference in your situation. Also, since there's a 5-year gap between when he wants to retire and when you plan to file, you might want to consider whether he can afford to wait a couple extra years to avoid the permanent reduction from claiming early.

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