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Denied same-day Social Security spousal benefit application - 6 week phone appointment normal?

I'm completely baffled by what happened at my local SS office yesterday. I turned 67 last month and went to apply for spousal benefits (my husband started his retirement benefits 3 years ago). I arrived early, was second in line, and had all my documents ready - marriage certificate, ID, birth certificate, the works! The claims rep spent about 20 minutes silently typing and looking at his computer. He made a photocopy of our marriage license, then told me I'd get a phone call on April 22nd at 1:45pm to complete my spousal benefits application. That's SEVEN weeks away! When I asked why we couldn't just do it right then, he said "these applications take 45 minutes and I don't have that kind of time today." I was floored - isn't that literally his job? I started an online application but got stuck because it never specifically asks if I'm applying for spousal benefits vs. retirement on my own record. I have enough credits for my own benefit but my husband's would be higher. Should I just call the main SSA number tomorrow morning and try to get this done sooner? Has anyone else been given such a ridiculous timeframe? Is this normal procedure now? I'm worried about losing backdated benefits by waiting so long.

wait im confused, can u explain the difference between spousal benefits and survivor benefits? my husband is still alive but he gets wayyyy more SS than i would. can i get some of his now or only after he dies???

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Spousal benefits and survivor benefits are different: Spousal benefits: Available while your husband is alive. Maximum is 50% of his full retirement amount (if he filed early, you still get 50% of his full amount, not his reduced amount). You can receive these if you're at least 62, though reduced if taken before your FRA. If your own benefit is higher than 50% of his, you'll just get your own. Survivor benefits: Available after your husband passes away. Maximum is 100% of what he was receiving (or would have received at FRA if he hadn't filed yet). These can be taken as early as age 60, though reduced if before your FRA. So yes, you can potentially get benefits based on your husband's record while he's still alive through spousal benefits, but they're limited to 50% of his full amount.

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I'm a former SSA employee and unfortunately what you experienced is becoming the norm at most field offices. The staffing shortages are real and many offices are operating with skeleton crews. Here's what I'd recommend based on your situation: 1. **Online application is your best bet** - Complete it as a retirement application, then in the remarks section write something like: "I am applying for SPOUSAL BENEFITS ONLY on my husband's record. Husband's name: [Full Name], SSN: XXX-XX-XXXX. I want to file a restricted application for spousal benefits while allowing my own retirement benefit to continue growing until age 70." 2. **Upload documents** - You can upload your marriage certificate directly through the online portal, which will speed up processing. 3. **Don't wait for their call** - In my experience, about 30% of scheduled phone appointments either don't happen or happen late. The online route is much more reliable. 4. **Follow up** - After submitting online, call the 800 number in about 2 weeks to confirm they received everything and understood your intent for spousal benefits only. The whole "I don't have 45 minutes" excuse is ridiculous - that's literally what they're paid to do. But fighting the system won't help you get your benefits faster. The online route with clear instructions in the remarks section is your fastest path forward.

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Can we claim the $255 SS death benefit for estranged brother-in-law who was homeless?

My brother-in-law passed away last month - he was homeless in Memphis and completely estranged from our family for nearly a decade. Somehow the Memphis authorities managed to track us down here in Little Rock (still amazed by this). My husband had to drive down to identify him, and we paid almost $3,800 for cremation and burial in our local cemetery. We have the original death certificate, but literally nothing else - no paperwork, not even a wallet or personal effects. He was receiving Social Security benefits (not sure which kind), but since he was homeless, there's zero documentation. I heard there's a $255 death benefit from Social Security we might be eligible for as the only surviving family who handled his final arrangements. Is this true? If so, how do we go about claiming it when we have such limited information? Has anyone navigated something similar?

After scheduling with Claimyr, I found the SSA agent I spoke with was really helpful about explaining the next steps. They told me exactly what documents to bring to my in-person appointment. Saved me from making multiple trips. Since you're dealing with a somewhat unusual situation with your brother-in-law being estranged and homeless, it might help to talk to an agent first who can advise on your specific case before going in.

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That's a really good suggestion. I think I'll try to speak with someone first to make sure we gather everything we need. Thanks for the advice!

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I'm so sorry for your loss and what you've had to go through with this difficult situation. As someone new to navigating Social Security benefits, I wanted to ask - is there a time limit on when you need to apply for the $255 death benefit? I see someone mentioned 2 years, but I'm wondering if that's a hard deadline or if there are any exceptions, especially in cases like yours where the person was homeless and estranged from family. Also, if you don't mind me asking, roughly how long did the whole process take from start to finish for those who have been through this? I'm trying to help my elderly neighbor who might be in a similar situation soon.

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Social Security divorced spousal benefit reduction - claiming at 69 after taking my own at 62?

I've been getting my own Social Security since I was 62 (now 68). My ex-husband and I divorced about 2 years ago after 31 years of marriage, so I know I've met the 2-year waiting period for divorced spouse benefits. He's 64 now and still working full-time, hasn't filed for his benefits yet. Here's what I can't get a straight answer on: When I apply for divorced spousal benefits next year (at 69), will I still be penalized for taking my own benefits early at 62? Or can I get the full 50% of his PIA since I'll be past my FRA when applying for the divorced spousal? I was mostly a stay-at-home mom, so his benefit is significantly higher - my monthly payment would more than double if I could get 50% of his. I've called the SSA office THREE different times and gotten THREE completely different answers! One rep said I'd get the full 50%, another said I'd be permanently reduced because I claimed at 62, and the third wasn't sure but thought it might be somewhere in between. I'm trying to budget for the next few years and this makes a huge difference. Has anyone been through this exact situation?

Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! I'm definitely going to try to get through to a Technical Expert since it seems like they're the only ones who really understand these complicated cases. I'll plan on getting some increase but not the full 50% I was hoping for. At least I know now why I was getting such different answers. I'll update after I speak with someone who can do the actual calculations for my specific situation.

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I'm a Social Security Administration representative and want to clarify the correct information about divorced spousal benefits since there's been some confusion in this thread. When you file for divorced spousal benefits after your Full Retirement Age (which you will be at 69), the divorced spousal portion itself won't be reduced for age. However, since you took your own retirement benefit early at 62, that portion remains permanently reduced. Here's how it works: You'll receive the HIGHER of either (1) your current reduced benefit, or (2) up to 50% of your ex-husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). You don't get both benefits - it's not additive. The key calculation is comparing 50% of his PIA to your current reduced benefit amount. If 50% of his PIA is higher than what you're currently receiving, you'll get that higher amount. If your current benefit is already close to or exceeds 50% of his PIA, you may see little to no increase. For accurate calculations specific to your situation, I recommend scheduling an appointment at your local SSA office or requesting to speak with a Technical Expert who can access your earnings records and provide exact figures. The online my Social Security account at ssa.gov can also provide benefit estimates.

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Social Security SSDI onset date affecting back payments for Compassionate Allowance claim

I just heard that my SSDI claim for stage 4 lung cancer was approved (Compassionate Allowance) but I'm confused about the onset date and what it means for my payments. SSA set my onset date as 09/15/2023, which is when I was first hospitalized and diagnosed. The approval happened super fast - my case was sent for medical review on 11/30 and by 12/03 I got a letter saying my claim was processed! There was even a handwritten note saying they expedited everything and recommended 09/15/2023 as the onset date. I'm supposed to wait a few days before checking my account online for details, but my anxiety is through the roof with everything else going on, so I'm hoping someone here can help me understand: 1. Is it likely the final decision will use 09/15/2023 as my onset date? 2. How does this onset date affect the 5-month waiting period for SSDI? 3. Will I get back payments? How are the amounts calculated? 4. How will they pay any back payments - lump sum or installments? 5. How far back can back payments go with this type of claim? I know I should just wait and check my account but between treatments and financial stress, I can't stop worrying about this. Any information would really help right now.

How will you know for SURE what onset date they used? My husband's award letter didn't specifically say his onset date and we had to call 100 times to figure it out. Make sure you look at that letter carefully when you get it because changing the onset date later is a NIGHTMARE if they get it wrong!!!

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Great point. The award letter should state the established onset date, but sometimes it's not clearly labeled as such. Look for phrasing like "we found you disabled as of [date]" or "your disability began on [date]." If it's unclear, definitely call and get clarification. You're absolutely right that correcting an onset date later can be complicated and require a formal appeal.

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Has anyone else noticed their monthly payment amount is WAY LESS than expected??? My friend with lung cancer got approved last year and was shocked when he only got about $1900/month even though he made good money before getting sick. I heard SSDI has some weird maximum cap on benefits no matter how much you paid into the system!!!

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Yes, SSDI does have a maximum benefit amount that's adjusted annually. For 2023, the average SSDI payment is about $1,340 per month, while the maximum is around $3,600. The exact amount depends on your lifetime earnings and how much you've paid into Social Security over your working years. It's calculated using a formula called the Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which gives you a percentage of your average indexed monthly earnings. The formula is weighted to give lower-income workers a higher percentage of their pre-disability income than higher-income workers. So yes, someone who earned a high salary might be surprised at their SSDI amount, as it won't replace their full income.

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@ac59dd81328e Just to give you a realistic expectation - you can get an estimate of your potential SSDI benefit amount by creating a my Social Security account at ssa.gov if you haven't already. It will show your estimated disability benefit based on your current earnings record. This might help you plan financially while you're waiting for everything to process. The amount shown there should be very close to what your actual monthly payment will be.

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Can I switch from my tiny SS retirement to higher spousal benefits at 70 after husband files?

I've been drawing my own Social Security since I turned 67, but it's really small (only about $980/month) because I was a stay-at-home mom for most of my working years. My husband just turned 65 and plans to keep working until he's 66 and a half. His SS benefit will be around $3,100/month based on the SSA calculator we used. I'm wondering if I can cancel my current benefits and switch to spousal benefits once he files? Would I get half of his amount (which would be $1,550) instead of my current $980? Is this even possible at my age? If it is, when should I start the application process - now or closer to when he retires? Really confused about the rules here!

To summarize what you should do: 1. Continue receiving your current benefit until your husband retires 2. When your husband files for his benefits, contact SSA (ideally make an appointment) to apply for your spousal benefit 3. Bring your marriage certificate, both birth certificates, and both Social Security cards to the appointment 4. You'll then receive your own $980 benefit plus a spousal add-on of approximately $570 (assuming your husband's benefit is $3,100) 5. The total will be $1,550, which is exactly 50% of your husband's benefit And just to be clear - this isn't SSI, this is regular Social Security retirement with a spousal benefit component.

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Thank you so much for laying it out so clearly! I understand exactly what to do now. We'll gather all those documents and be prepared when my husband retires next year. I appreciate everyone's help with this!

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One thing I'd add is to keep track of your husband's exact filing date because your spousal benefit increase should start the month after he files. Sometimes there can be a delay in processing, so if you don't see the adjustment in your payment within 2-3 months, follow up with SSA. Also, when you do contact them to apply for the spousal benefit, ask them to confirm the exact amount you'll receive - it's always good to have that in writing so you know what to expect in your monthly payment.

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