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Thank you all for the helpful information! I'll definitely make sure my wife stays on SSDI until her Full Retirement Age rather than switching at 62. And we'll be super careful about documenting all her work hours and reporting everything properly during her trial work period. It sounds like the most important things are: 1) Keep good records, 2) Report all work activity to SSA right away, and 3) Understand that the trial work period rules continue as normal even after turning 62. I'll check out that Claimyr service too - anything to avoid days of busy signals when trying to clarify questions with SSA!

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You've got it exactly right! One more tip - when your wife reports her work activity, use the SSA-821 form (Work Activity Report) and keep copies of EVERYTHING. I learned this the hard way when SSA lost my husband's work reports twice and we had to resubmit them.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation - my husband is 60 on SSDI and considering a trial work period. One thing I wanted to add that might help others: make sure to keep track of not just earnings but also hours worked, even if you're paid hourly below the SGA threshold. SSA sometimes looks at work capacity beyond just dollar amounts. Also, if your wife does decide to pursue the trial work period, consider starting with very part-time hours to test the waters gradually. The 9-month trial period doesn't have to be consecutive, so she can spread it out over several years if needed. Good luck to both of you - navigating SSA rules is tough but this community really helps clarify things!

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This is such great advice about tracking hours worked, not just earnings! I hadn't thought about that aspect. Your point about spreading out the trial work period over several years is really smart too - that gives more flexibility to test different types of work or adjust if health conditions change. It's reassuring to know the 9 months don't have to be consecutive. Did your husband end up going through with his trial work period? I'd be curious to hear how it went if you're comfortable sharing.

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Mason, I went through this exact situation 2 years ago when I retired at 63. The annual earnings limit applies to ALL income earned during the calendar year, regardless of when you start collecting benefits. However, there's good news - William Rivera mentioned the first-year retirement rule which can be a game-changer. If you completely stop working in August (no earnings whatsoever after that), you can receive full benefits for September through December even if your January-August income exceeded the annual limit. The key is making sure you have absolutely zero earnings after your retirement date - no consulting, no vacation payouts, nothing. I'd strongly recommend calling SSA to confirm this applies to your situation and get it documented. Also consider whether waiting until January 2026 might work better financially - you'd avoid the earnings test entirely and get slightly higher monthly benefits from delayed retirement credits.

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Thank you for sharing your experience, Nia! This is really helpful to hear from someone who actually went through it. I'm definitely leaning toward using that first-year retirement rule now. My plan is to have my last day of work be August 31st, and I'll make sure I don't have any earnings after that - no consulting, no leftover vacation pay, nothing. I'm going to call SSA next week to confirm this will work for my situation and get it documented like you suggested. The idea of getting full benefits for those last 4 months of the year even with my high early-year income sounds too good to pass up!

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Just wanted to add another perspective here - I'm a retired SSA field office manager and can confirm that the first-year retirement rule is legitimate and underutilized. However, be very careful about the documentation. When you call SSA to discuss this, ask them to put notes in your file about your retirement date and the application of the first-year rule. I've seen cases where different representatives gave conflicting information later, so having it documented upfront is crucial. Also, make sure your employer processes your final paycheck correctly and doesn't accidentally include any earnings in September or later months. Even a small amount can disqualify you from using this rule. The earnings test can be confusing, but with proper planning and documentation, you can navigate it successfully.

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To tie everything together for your planning purposes: 1. Apply about 3 months before March 2025 (so December 2024 or January 2025) 2. Specifically select March 2025 as your benefit start month on the application 3. Understand your first payment would normally arrive in April 2025, but processing delays might push this to May or even June 4. Budget accordingly, knowing there could be a gap between when you expect payments to start and when they actually begin 5. Remember you'll get back payments for any months you're eligible but haven't received payment for yet 6. Your $68K earnings won't reduce your benefits, but will likely make a portion of your benefits taxable Does this help clarify the timing for your situation?

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Yes, this is incredibly helpful! I'm going to mark my calendar to start the application process in December 2024. I'll make sure to have extra savings to cover any potential delays in receiving my first payment. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to explain all these details - it's exactly the information I needed to plan properly for 2025. Thank you all!

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As someone who just went through this process myself, I wanted to add a few practical tips that helped me navigate the application: 1. Create a my Social Security account online if you haven't already - you can check your earnings record and get benefit estimates before applying. This helps you spot any errors in your work history early. 2. When you do apply in December/January, consider doing it on a weekday morning when their systems tend to be more responsive. I had multiple timeouts trying to apply on a Sunday evening. 3. If you're married, make sure you understand spousal benefit options too. Even if your spouse isn't ready to claim, there might be strategies worth considering. 4. Keep copies of everything you submit. The SSA has been known to ask for the same documents multiple times during processing. The advice about budgeting for delays is spot-on. I ended up needing an extra 10 weeks of savings beyond what I originally planned for. Better to be prepared than scrambling to cover bills while waiting for that first payment!

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This is really practical advice! I hadn't thought about creating the my Social Security account ahead of time - that's a great tip to check my earnings record first. I'm definitely going to do that soon to make sure everything looks accurate before I apply. The timing tip about weekday mornings is smart too. I work from home so I can be flexible about when I submit the application. And you're absolutely right about keeping copies - I've learned from other government processes that having your own records is essential. Thanks for sharing your real-world experience with the timeline. Hearing that you needed 10 extra weeks really drives home the importance of having a financial cushion ready. I'm going to plan for at least 3 months of coverage beyond my expected start date just to be safe.

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One last point worth considering: If you're in good health and longevity runs in your family, the strategy of claiming survivor/ex-spouse benefits at FRA and switching to your own at 70 becomes even more valuable. The math generally works out that if you live beyond your early 80s, maximizing your own benefit by waiting until 70 provides the highest lifetime payout. Regardless of when you claim, make sure to file your application 3-4 months before you want benefits to begin. The SSA processing time has been running longer than usual lately.

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That's good advice about filing early - I'll definitely plan ahead. My mother lived to 92 and her mother to 96, so longevity does run in my family. I'm pretty healthy too, so maximizing that long-term benefit makes sense. Thank you all for helping me understand my options so much better!

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Just want to echo what others have said about getting all three benefit amounts calculated - it's absolutely crucial for making the right decision. I went through something similar a few years ago and found that creating a simple spreadsheet helped me visualize the long-term impact of each strategy. One thing I'd add is to consider your health insurance situation too. If you're retiring at 65, you'll be eligible for Medicare, but if you're still working and have employer coverage, you might want to factor that into your timing decision. Sometimes the healthcare costs can influence whether it makes sense to retire exactly at 65 or adjust your timeline slightly. Also, since you mentioned your ex-husband earned significantly more than your late husband, definitely get his benefit amount calculated. That 50% of his benefit at your FRA could potentially be much higher than 100% of your late husband's benefit. Good luck with everything!

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That's such a great point about the spreadsheet and health insurance! I hadn't even thought about how Medicare timing might factor into this decision. I do have good employer coverage right now, so that's definitely something to consider. And you're absolutely right about getting my ex-husband's benefit calculated - if he really did earn that much more, that 50% could be substantial. I'm starting to realize this is going to take some serious number-crunching, but at least now I know what questions to ask when I finally get through to SSA. Thanks for the practical advice!

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Thanks for all this helpful information everyone! I spoke with my sister and we've decided that she's going to talk to the social worker at her dialysis center first thing tomorrow. She's also going to check with her HR department about exactly what kind of health coverage she has now and what her STD/LTD options look like. We now understand that switching to SSDI isn't an option at her age, but the information about Medicare's special provisions for kidney disease patients is a game-changer. I'm going to help her enroll in Part B right away to avoid any future penalties.

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That sounds like an excellent plan. One more tip: make sure she gets the Medicare coverage to start before ending her employment if possible. There's a special form her employer needs to fill out (CMS-L564) to verify she had creditable coverage through work, which will help her avoid any Part B penalties. Wishing her all the best with her health challenges.

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Just wanted to add one more consideration that might help your sister - since she's still working full-time at 72, she should also look into whether her employer offers an Employee Assistance Program (EAP). Many companies provide free counseling and benefits navigation services through EAPs that can help sort through all these complex Medicare and insurance decisions. Also, if she decides to retire, she might want to time it strategically around her dialysis schedule to minimize any gaps in coverage. The transition period can be tricky, but it sounds like you're helping her think through all the right questions. Good luck with everything!

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That's a really smart suggestion about the EAP! I hadn't thought about that resource at all. Since she's been with her current employer for several years, they might have benefits counselors who specialize in helping employees navigate retirement and healthcare transitions. And you're absolutely right about timing the retirement around her dialysis schedule - she gets treatments three times a week, so having any gap in coverage during that transition could be really problematic. Thanks for thinking of those practical details!

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