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Since you're planning to start benefits at 63, keep in mind that your benefit will be permanently reduced by approximately 25% compared to waiting until your Full Retirement Age (which I'm guessing is 67 based on your age). Adding the earnings test reduction on top of that means you'll get significantly less than your full benefit amount. Have you done calculations to determine if it might be better financially to either: 1. Continue working at your current income level and wait until FRA to claim, or 2. Fully retire now (or reduce your income below the earnings limit) to avoid the penalty? Sometimes the math favors one approach over the other depending on your specific situation. The earnings test reduction gets paid back eventually after FRA, but the early claiming reduction is permanent.
I've thought about waiting, but I have some health concerns that make me want to claim earlier. My dad and his brothers all died before 75, so I'm not convinced waiting is the best option for me personally. I'd rather have the money while I can still enjoy it, even if it's a bit less. But you make a good point about possibly reducing my hours to stay under the limit - that might be the best compromise.
Just wanted to add one more thing that might help with your planning - since you mentioned health concerns influencing your decision to claim early, that's totally understandable. But consider this: if you can manage to keep your part-time earnings right at or just below the $22,300 limit, you'd avoid the earnings test penalty entirely while still getting some work income. Even reducing from $25k to $22k would save you that $1,350 in withheld benefits. Sometimes cutting back just a few hours or declining overtime can make a big difference. You could also look into whether any of your current income could be restructured (like retirement contributions, HSA contributions, or other pre-tax deductions) to bring your countable earnings below the limit. The peace of mind from avoiding the penalty might be worth the small reduction in work income, especially since you're already planning to work part-time anyway.
That's really smart advice about staying just under the limit! I hadn't thought about restructuring income or using pre-tax contributions to lower my countable earnings. Since I'm planning part-time work anyway, maybe I could contribute more to a 401k or IRA to get below that $22,300 threshold. Even if I put an extra $3,000 into retirement savings, that would keep me under the limit AND give me tax benefits. Plus avoiding that $1,350 penalty would basically be like getting a guaranteed return on reducing my hours slightly. Thanks for the practical suggestion!
To wrap things up for the original poster: During your April 1st phone appointment, you'll go through the actual application process. At that time, you'll be asked when you want your benefits to begin. Specify June 2025 (your FRA month). Applying in April for June benefits is completely fine and won't reduce your benefit amount as long as you select the correct benefit start month. I recommend taking detailed notes during the call, including the name of the representative you speak with. After the application is submitted, you'll receive a confirmation letter - review it carefully to ensure the benefit start date is shown correctly as June 2025.
I'm a bit late to this conversation, but I wanted to share my experience since I went through something very similar last year. When I called SSA to schedule my appointment, the representative used the term "enrollment date" which made me panic thinking I had accidentally enrolled early! Turns out it was just the date they logged my call in their system. During my actual appointment, I made it crystal clear that I wanted my benefits to start in my FRA month, and everything worked out perfectly. The representative even repeated back to me "So you want benefits to begin in [FRA month], is that correct?" before finalizing anything. One tip: When you have your April appointment, ask them to send you a written confirmation showing your selected benefit start date. That way you have documentation if there are any questions later. Good luck!
I'm a new retiree and went through this exact same confusion! My FRA was October 18th last year and I was so worried about the timing. Everyone here is absolutely right - you get the full month's benefit for May even though your FRA is on the 14th. One thing I wish someone had told me is to set up text alerts through your MySocialSecurity account so you get notified when your payment is processed. It gave me such peace of mind that first month to get the confirmation text a few days before the money actually hit my account. You're all set - May benefits will definitely arrive in June on that 3rd Wednesday! Congratulations on reaching this milestone!
Thank you so much for the congratulations and the tip about text alerts! I had no idea that was an option. Just went into my MySocialSecurity account and set those up - what a great feature to have that extra confirmation. It's such a relief to hear from so many people who went through the exact same situation. I feel much more confident about my retirement planning now!
I work as a Social Security claims representative and wanted to chime in to confirm what everyone is saying here - you absolutely will receive your full May benefit payment in June! The key thing to understand is that Social Security uses what we call the "deemed FRA rule" - when your FRA falls anywhere within a month, you're considered to have reached FRA on the first day of that month for benefit purposes. This means no reduction in benefits and you're entitled to the full monthly amount. Since you selected "earliest month possible without a permanent age-related reduction" on your application, everything is set up correctly. Your first payment will be your full May 2025 benefit, deposited on the third Wednesday of June 2025 (which would be June 18th). Just keep an eye on your MySocialSecurity account for any updates, and don't hesitate to call if you have any other questions closer to your payment date. Congratulations on your upcoming retirement!
Based on everything in this thread, here's what I recommend: 1. DON'T give up SSDI - the Medicare loss and inability to easily get back on if needed make this too risky 2. DO set up a benefits planning session with a Work Incentives Planning and Assistance (WIPA) counselor - they're free and specifically trained on work incentives 3. DO look into Trial Work Period (9 months) and Extended Period of Eligibility (36 months) for maximum flexibility 4. DO request a detailed written explanation of how his survivor benefits were calculated, specifically asking about GPO adjustment if his father didn't pay into Social Security 5. If having trouble reaching the right SSA person, consider using a call service or contacting your congressional representative's office (they often have dedicated SSA liaisons) Good luck to you and your son!
I work as a disability advocate and want to emphasize one critical point that hasn't been fully addressed: your son should absolutely NOT give up his SSDI without getting a comprehensive written analysis first. Here's why this situation is more complex than it appears: The survivor benefit he's receiving may already be significantly reduced by the Government Pension Offset (GPO) because his father worked for the state. GPO reduces survivor benefits by 2/3 of the government pension amount. So if his father's monthly state pension was, say, $2,000, the survivor benefit would be reduced by about $1,333 - which might explain why it's only $780/month instead of a higher amount. Before making any decisions, request these specific documents from SSA: - Form SSA-1724 (Claim for Amounts Due in the Case of Deceased Beneficiary) - A detailed GPO calculation worksheet - Written explanation of what his survivor benefit would be if SSDI is terminated Also, contact your state's Disability Rights organization - they often have staff who specialize in Social Security work incentives and can provide free consultation. This is too important a decision to make without expert guidance. The Trial Work Period route mentioned by others is definitely the safer path to explore first.
KylieRose
Just wanted to add my perspective as someone who went through this decision process recently. I'm 69 and was in a very similar situation - teacher for 28 years, then worked in the private sector. I ultimately decided to wait until 70 and I'm filing next month. What really helped me was creating a spreadsheet to compare the lifetime benefits. Even though waiting means missing out on 2 years of payments, the combination of delayed retirement credits (8% per year) plus the reduced WEP penalty from the new reforms made waiting clearly worth it in my case. One thing to consider: if you're still working part-time in a SS-covered job, those earnings could potentially replace some of your lower-earning years in the benefit calculation, which would increase your Primary Insurance Amount before any WEP reduction is applied. Every little bit helps! The math gets complicated with all these moving pieces, but for most people in our situation (teacher pension + enough SS credits + born after 1954), waiting until 70 is still the optimal strategy even with the new reforms.
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Yuki Sato
•This is exactly the kind of detailed analysis I was hoping to find! Creating a spreadsheet to compare lifetime benefits is a great idea - I hadn't thought of doing that. You're right about the part-time work potentially replacing lower-earning years too. I've been putting in about 20 hours a week at the retail job, so those earnings might actually help boost my benefit calculation. Thanks for sharing your real-world experience with this decision - it's reassuring to hear from someone who's actually been through the math and feels good about waiting until 70!
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Zara Malik
I'm in a very similar boat - retired teacher with a state pension, but also worked enough quarters to qualify for Social Security. I've been following the WEP/GPO reform developments closely since it affects so many of us educators. From everything I've read and the discussions with my financial advisor, the consensus seems clear: if you were born after January 1, 1954, you can't use the old "file and suspend" or "restricted application" strategies anymore. When you file, you're automatically filing for all benefits you're eligible for. However, the silver lining is that the WEP/GPO reforms will genuinely help us. The phased implementation starting in 2025 means less of our Social Security will be reduced due to our teacher pensions. Combined with your 23 years of substantial Social Security earnings (which already reduces your WEP penalty), waiting until 70 should maximize your benefit. I'd suggest using the SSA's online calculator and manually reducing the WEP penalty by about 10% to estimate your 2025 benefit, then factor in the delayed retirement credits. That should give you a clearer picture of whether the wait is worth it financially. Also, keep in mind that continuing to work part-time not only adds delayed credits but could potentially replace some lower-earning years in your benefit calculation, further reducing the WEP impact.
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