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I'm trying to understand how Social Security calculates my retirement benefit. When they determine my 35 highest years of earnings, do they count income earned all the way up until my Full Retirement Age (67 for me), or is there some cutoff point before then? I'm 58 now and considering a career change that would actually pay less, but provide better work-life balance. Just worried about how this might affect my eventual SS benefit calculation. Thanks in advance for any clarity!
I'm turning my full retirement age in April 2025 (66 years and 8 months) and struggling with whether to start my Social Security just a bit early. I stopped working in November 2024 and I'm currently just receiving my pension from my former employer. My husband plans to delay his Social Security until he turns 70 to maximize his benefit. I'm thinking about starting mine in February or early March 2025 - only about 2 months before my FRA. From what I calculated, my monthly benefit would only be reduced by a small amount (maybe $45-50 less per month) compared to waiting those extra 8 weeks. Are there any significant disadvantages to starting benefits this short time before FRA that I'm not considering? Would it affect any spousal benefits down the road? My financial advisor seems to think it doesn't matter much either way given the short timeframe, but I wanted to check with others who might have faced a similar decision. Thanks in advance for any insights!
Just to share what I learned after meeting with a financial planner specializing in retirement - those tiny reductions for being so close to FRA aren't really significant in the grand scheme. What matters more is: 1) Do you need the money now? 2) Are you still working? and 3) What's your life expectancy based on your health and family history? With just 2 months' difference, this is more of a personal preference decision than a major financial one. Either choice is reasonable! Best of luck with your retirement - sounds like you've planned well!
I'm in a similar boat - turning 67 in June and considering starting benefits a month or two early. One thing I've been researching is whether there are any state tax implications to consider. Some states don't tax Social Security at all, while others do, and the timing of when you start might affect which tax year those benefits fall into. Also, have you considered the impact on your overall tax situation? If you have other retirement income (sounds like you have a pension), starting SS a couple months early might push you into a different tax bracket for part of the year. Probably not a huge deal with just 2 months, but worth running the numbers. Your situation sounds very manageable either way - the financial difference is minimal, so it really comes down to your personal preference and immediate cash flow needs.
I just started receiving survivor benefits after turning 60 in June. I'm technically retired but agreed to do some part-time counseling work this spring that was only supposed to last a couple months. Well, the contract kept getting extended and now I'll be working until late December. My total earnings for the year will be around $35,200, with approximately $8,200 earned before my benefits started in June. I'm completely confused about two things: 1. Do I need to report this income to Social Security now or wait until I file taxes? 2. How much of my survivor benefits will I have to pay back because of going over the earnings limit? I had no idea this temporary job would last so long or I might have waited to apply for benefits. Really stressed about potentially owing SSA thousands of dollars. Any advice would be so appreciated!
NOBODY mentioned that survivor benefits taken at 60 are reduced by 28.5% FOREVER!!! she's only getting 71.5% of what she would get if she waited till her FRA!!! i hope the counseling job pays well because that's a big hit to take on lifetime benefits!!!
While it's true that survivor benefits taken at age 60 are reduced (the exact reduction depends on the birth year and FRA), this reduction doesn't always mean taking benefits early is a bad financial decision. Some people may need the income immediately, and the break-even age can be well into the late 70s or early 80s depending on individual circumstances. Also, survivors have unique options like taking reduced survivor benefits early, then switching to their own retirement benefit later if it would be higher.
As someone who recently went through a similar earnings situation, I wanted to add that it's worth asking SSA about establishing a payment plan if you do end up with an overpayment next year. When I had to pay back benefits, they let me set up monthly payments rather than demanding a lump sum, which made it much more manageable on my budget. Also, keep detailed records of all your communications with SSA about this - dates you called, representative names if you get them, and what was discussed. This documentation can be really helpful if there are any discrepancies later when they process your final earnings report. Good luck with the rest of your counseling work! It sounds like you're handling this situation exactly the right way by being proactive.
My wife turns 66 and 2 months (her Full Retirement Age) in June 2025. She's already filed for her benefits starting in January 2025, but she's still working part-time. I'm confused about the monthly earnings test limits for 2025. How much can she earn in each month from January through May without getting benefits reduced? Once she hits her FRA in June, there's no limit on earnings, right? Her job sometimes offers overtime, and I don't want her to accidentally go over whatever the threshold is. Also, does the SSA look at when the money is earned or when it's actually paid? Thanks for any help figuring this out!
Thank you all for this amazing advice. I think I understand it better now. My wife will track her earnings carefully for Jan-May 2025, making sure to stay under the monthly limit (around $4,960) as much as possible. We'll watch out for bonuses and vacation pay too. I'm going to have her call SSA to report her expected earnings for those months, and we'll use that Claimyr service if we can't get through normally. Then once she hits FRA in June, she can earn unlimited amounts without affecting her benefits. Is there anything I'm still missing or misunderstanding?
You've got it right! Just one final tip: have your wife request a "Benefits Planning Query" (BPQY) from SSA once she starts receiving benefits. This document will show her exact FRA date, benefit amounts, and earnings record. It's a good reference to have on hand and can help spot any discrepancies early. You can request it through the local office or sometimes over the phone.
Just wanted to add one more piece of advice from my experience helping clients with this situation: make sure your wife understands that the earnings test applies to her GROSS earnings, not her net take-home pay after taxes and deductions. I've seen people get confused about this and accidentally exceed the limit because they were only tracking their net pay. Also, if she has any self-employment income (like freelance work or a small side business), the rules can be more complex since they look at net earnings from self-employment rather than gross. But for regular W-2 employment income, it's straightforward - just track the gross wages shown on her paystubs. One last thing: if she does accidentally go over the limit in any month, don't panic. As others mentioned, SSA is generally reasonable about working with you to resolve overpayments, especially if you report the issue promptly and work with them in good faith.
Hi all, I'm trying to figure out how quitting work early affects my Social Security retirement benefits. I'm 58 now and honestly just DONE with my career. My wife insists I'm being financially reckless if I retire at 60 since it'll permanently reduce my SS benefits even if I wait until my Full Retirement Age (67) to start collecting. I keep telling her that as long as I don't claim early, my benefit at FRA would be the same whether I retire at 60 or keep working until 67. All that matters is the 35 highest earning years, right? We're not counting COLAs in this discussion - just talking about the base benefit calculation. Anyone know which one of us is right? My sanity depends on it!
Sounds like a solid plan. One more tip: when you log in to your mySocialSecurity account, look for the \
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you should also consider the impact of healthcare costs during those gap years from 60-67. Without employer insurance, you'll need to factor in the cost of private health insurance or ACA marketplace plans until you're eligible for Medicare at 65. For some people, those healthcare costs can eat into any potential Social Security benefit gains from working longer. It's another piece of the puzzle when weighing early retirement vs. continuing to work. Make sure to get quotes for individual health insurance in your area as part of your decision-making process!
Aidan Hudson
I got confused about SSI vs SSDI vs retirement benefits when I was researching this. They all have different rules about working! Make sure you're looking at the retirement benefit rules which is what we're talking about here.
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Lucy Lam
Good point! To clarify for everyone: - Social Security retirement benefits: Based on your work history, specifically your highest 35 years of earnings - SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance): Also based on your work history, but has strict rules about working while receiving benefits - SSI (Supplemental Security Income): Needs-based program with income and asset limits, not based on work history The original question is specifically about retirement benefit calculations.
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Zane Gray
As someone who made a similar career transition at 56, I can share my experience. I left a high-stress corporate job for a lower-paying but more fulfilling role in nonprofit work. After checking my Social Security statement, I realized I had 33 years of earnings, so even the lower salary would help fill out my 35-year calculation rather than hurt it. The peace of mind and better work-life balance have been absolutely worth it. I'm now 61 and plan to work until 68, which will give me those delayed retirement credits mentioned by others. Sometimes the non-financial benefits of a career change outweigh the pure dollars and cents - especially when you understand how the Social Security calculation actually works. Good luck with your decision!
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