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Thank you all so much for the helpful information! I feel much better understanding that I could switch to my husband's higher benefit if needed. I'll definitely reach out to SSA directly for specific calculations, and I appreciate the tip about Claimyr if I have trouble getting through. The information about reporting quickly and keeping documents organized is really valuable too. It's not a pleasant topic to think about, but I feel more prepared now.

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I'm glad you found all this information helpful, Javier! Just to add one more resource - the Social Security Administration has a helpful publication called "Survivors Benefits" (Publication No. 05-10084) that you can find on their website at ssa.gov. It breaks down all the rules in plain language. Also, don't forget that if you do become eligible for survivor benefits, you can potentially delay claiming them (if you're not already receiving your own retirement benefits) to earn delayed retirement credits up until age 70, which could increase the monthly amount. Since you're both already receiving benefits, this wouldn't apply to your situation, but it's good to know for others reading this thread. Take care!

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I work as a benefits counselor and see this confusion all the time. Since you were born in 1957/1958 (age 67 in 2025), you're subject to deemed filing rules - you can't do the restricted application strategy that was eliminated for people born after January 1, 1954. However, there might be one small silver lining to explore: if you have a significant reduction in earnings this year or next (maybe reducing work hours), it could be worth running the numbers on whether filing earlier makes sense. But given your $98K salary and family longevity, waiting until 70 is almost certainly your best bet. One thing to double-check: make sure your ex-husband's benefit amount is accurate. Sometimes people misunderstand what their actual benefit is versus what they're currently receiving (which might be reduced if they filed early). Your ex-spouse benefit would be 50% of his full retirement age benefit, not necessarily 50% of what he's currently collecting.

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Ally Tailer

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This is really valuable information, especially about verifying the ex-husband's actual full retirement age benefit amount. You're right that people often confuse what they're currently receiving with their FRA benefit - if he filed early, his current payments would be reduced. I should probably get clarification on that number to make sure I'm comparing apples to apples when evaluating my options. Thanks for the professional insight!

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Just wanted to add another perspective as someone who recently navigated this same decision. I'm 68 and was born in 1956, so I also missed the restricted application cutoff by a couple years - super frustrating! One thing that helped me was using the Social Security break-even calculators to see the actual dollar amounts. In my case, I realized that even though waiting until 70 would give me the highest monthly payment, I'd need to live past 83 to come out ahead compared to filing at my FRA. Since I'm in great health like you, I decided to wait. But here's something to consider: if you're still working and contributing to Social Security, those continued contributions could actually boost your benefit calculation. I found out my last few high-earning years replaced some lower-earning years from the 1980s in my calculation, which increased my projected benefit at 70 even more than just the delayed retirement credits alone. Definitely get your most recent Social Security statement online to see your exact projected amounts before making the final decision!

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Yuki Nakamura

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This is such helpful real-world perspective! I'm in a very similar situation and it's reassuring to hear from someone who went through the same decision process. The break-even analysis is something I definitely need to do - I've been focused on maximizing the monthly amount but should look at the total lifetime benefit picture too. And you're absolutely right about getting the most current SS statement. I pulled mine about 6 months ago but with my continued high earnings, the projections might have improved since then. Really appreciate you sharing your experience!

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Im sorry but i think you need to just apply now!!! My neighbor was in similar situation and SSA told her she needed to apply within 6 months of death or she would loose some backpay. I dont know if thats still true but better safe than sorry!! Even though you cant get payments until 60 you should apply now to protect your filing date!!

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This isn't accurate. For survivor benefits, you generally must apply within 6 months to receive retroactive benefits back to the month of death. However, since the original poster isn't eligible for payments until age 60 (still 5 years away), there's no advantage to applying now. SSA won't even process an application this far in advance. The correct approach is to apply a few months before turning 60. If she wants to delay benefits past 60 for a higher monthly amount, she can specify that in her application.

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GalaxyGlider

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Kendrick. Losing an ex-spouse, especially at such a young age, can be emotionally complicated even years after divorce. Based on what others have shared, it sounds like contacting the Federal Benefits Unit in London (which serves Portugal) might be your best bet rather than trying to call the main SSA line. Email might work better for you given the time zone differences. One thing I wanted to add that I haven't seen mentioned - since you only have 5 years of US work credits, you definitely want to look into the US-Portugal totalization agreement that someone briefly mentioned. This could potentially help you qualify for some benefits on your own record by combining your US and Portuguese work history. It might not be much, but every bit helps, especially if you're planning to stay in Portugal long-term. Also, even though you can't claim survivor benefits until 60, it might be worth starting to organize your paperwork now. Get certified copies of your marriage certificate, divorce decree, and his death certificate while they're still relatively easy to obtain. Having everything ready will make the process smoother when the time comes. The Federal Benefits Unit should be able to give you a better idea of what documentation you'll need and how the process works for US expats in Portugal.

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Omar Farouk

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Thank you so much for the kind words and practical advice. You're right that it's emotionally complicated - even though we were divorced, 18 years together was a big part of my life, and 49 is just so young. I really appreciate you mentioning the totalization agreement again. I worked in Portugal for about 8 years before moving there permanently, so combining those credits with my 5 US years might actually help. I had completely forgotten about that possibility. You're also absolutely right about getting the paperwork organized now. I've been putting it off because it feels overwhelming, but having everything ready in advance will definitely make things easier when I turn 60. I'll start with getting multiple certified copies of everything while I'm thinking about it. The Federal Benefits Unit in London sounds like the way to go. Much better than trying to navigate international calling during US business hours from Portugal!

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Jayden Hill

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Unpopular opinion: maybe if we all stopped relying on government handouts, we wouldn't have to deal with this bs πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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Aidan Hudson

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Bruh, you're gonna get downvoted to oblivion with that take πŸ’€

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Zoe Wang

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The benefits system is there for a reason. It’s a safety net for those who need support, not a handout.

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I completely understand your frustration! I went through a similar ordeal last year. Here's what finally worked for me: 1) Call the main SSA number (1-800-772-1213) at exactly 8:00 AM when they open - your chances are much better then. 2) When you get through the automated system, press 0 multiple times to try to reach a human faster. 3) If you keep getting disconnected, try calling your local SSA field office directly - they often have shorter wait times. 4) Have your Social Security number, birth date, and all relevant documents ready before calling. 5) Be prepared to wait on hold for 1-2 hours even if you get through. Also, if you're able to visit in person, that might be faster than phone calls. Bring all your paperwork and get there early! The whole system is definitely broken, but persistence pays off. Good luck - you've got this! πŸ’ͺ

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Madison Allen

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ALSO!!! don't forget bout TAXES!! up to 85% of ur SS benefits can be taxable depending on ur other income. we didnt realize this and ended up owing a bunch at tax time that first year 😠

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Sophia Clark

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Oh no! Thanks for the warning. I'll definitely talk to our tax person before making a final decision. This is getting more complicated than I thought!

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As someone who just went through this decision process last year, I'd recommend using the Social Security benefits calculator on their website (ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/estimator.html) to run the numbers for your specific situation. You can see exactly what your benefits would be at different ages. Also consider your health and family longevity - if you're in good health and have parents/grandparents who lived into their 90s, waiting might make more financial sense in the long run. But if you need the income now or have health concerns, taking it early could be the right choice. One thing that helped me was calculating the "break-even" point - basically how old I'd need to be for the total benefits received by waiting to exceed what I'd get by taking it early. In my case it was around age 78-79. Since I'm healthy and my mom is 92, I decided to wait.

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This is such great advice! I never thought about calculating the break-even point - that's a really smart way to think about it. My family does tend to live long (my grandmother is 89 and still going strong), so maybe waiting would pay off in the long run. I'm going to try that calculator on the SSA website and see what the numbers look like for my situation. Thanks for sharing your experience and decision-making process!

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