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I'm really confused about my daughter's benefits situation. She's 19, has Down syndrome, and recently started receiving survivor benefits of $620 after her dad passed away. She was already on SSI before that. It's been two months now, and they're still paying her the full SSI amount ($943) along with the survivor benefits. I thought SSI would automatically reduce with the survivor income? I've called SSA probably 6 times and gotten completely different answers each time - one person said they'd adjust it automatically, another said I need to report it in person, and someone else said it could take up to 6 months to process! I'm worried we'll end up with a huge overpayment. Has anyone dealt with this? How long did it take for SSI to adjust when your family member started getting survivor benefits?
My ex and I were married for 25 years before divorcing about 18 months ago. We're both in our late 50s now and starting to think about retirement. I've been researching my Social Security options and getting confused about how survivor benefits work in our situation.I'm planning to wait until my full retirement age (67) to claim my own benefits, but my ex is talking about claiming early at 62. If he claims early and then passes away sometime in the future (hopefully not for many years!), would his early filing reduce what I could get as survivor benefits? Or are survivor benefits based on what he would have received at full retirement age regardless of when he actually claimed?Not trying to be morbid - we still have an amicable relationship and I certainly don't wish him ill. Just trying to understand all the financial angles for my future planning. Thanks for any guidance!
Thank you all so much for these responses! I have a much clearer picture now of how this works. My takeaways:1. His early claiming WOULD reduce potential survivor benefits if he passes away2. But there's that 82.5% minimum rule that might help offset some of the reduction3. I can strategically switch between my own benefits and survivor benefits to maximize my total lifetime payout4. I should definitely consult with an expert on Social Security claiming strategies given all the complexitiesIt's definitely more complicated than I initially thought, but I feel much better equipped to have an informed conversation with a financial advisor now. Thanks again for all your help!
You're absolutely right to get clarity on this before making any major decisions! One additional thing to consider that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you understand the timing rules around when you can actually claim these different benefits. For divorced spouse benefits, you generally need to wait until age 62, but for survivor benefits, you might be eligible as early as age 60 (or even earlier in certain circumstances). The age at which you claim can significantly impact the benefit amount, so factor that into your overall strategy too. Good luck with your planning!
I'm trying to plan my retirement for next year and need accurate benefit estimates. Does anyone know how soon after January 1st the Social Security estimator will incorporate my 2024 W-2 wages? My company usually processes W-2s by mid-January, but I'm not sure how quickly that information makes it into the SSA system for benefit calculations. I've checked my SSA account but it still only shows earnings through 2023. Need to know if I should wait a few weeks or months before the estimates will be more accurate with my full 2024 income included.
I had this same question a few years ago when I was approaching retirement age. I actually ended up working an extra 6 months because I didn't realize my benefit would be so much higher with those additional months of work. The weird thing was that my January-March earnings showed up in the system differently than my April-December earnings. I think they do some sort of quarterly processing maybe? I still don't fully understand how it works. But anyway, don't make any major decisions until you see your actual benefits calculation with all your 2024 income included. I learned this lesson the hard way!
I work in payroll processing and can add some context to what others have shared. The delay isn't just on SSA's end - there's actually a complex chain of data flow. After employers submit W-2s by January 31st, the data goes through multiple validation steps. SSA has to match millions of records against existing accounts, resolve discrepancies, and handle name changes, address updates, etc. One thing I haven't seen mentioned here is that if you had multiple employers in 2024, each W-2 gets processed separately, so your complete earnings picture might come together at different times. Also, if there were any corrections or amended W-2s filed, that can delay your specific record even if others are processing normally. For retirement planning purposes, I'd recommend keeping detailed records of your 2024 earnings and using the manual entry option in the estimator rather than waiting for the system to update. The calculations will be the same whether you enter it manually or wait for it to appear automatically.
I started receiving Social Security survivor benefits six months ago after turning 60 this January. My husband passed away in 2021 and I know there are earnings limits while collecting these benefits. I currently work part-time at a local bookstore making approximately $21,500 annually, and I'm careful to stay under the 2025 earnings limit (around $24,600 I believe). Here's my concern - I'm planning to withdraw about $8,000 from my Roth IRA for some home repairs. Since I already paid taxes on this money when I contributed it years ago, I'm wondering if the SSA would count this as income toward the earnings limit? I really don't want to accidentally trigger any benefit reductions or have to pay anything back. I tried calling the SSA office three times but kept getting disconnected after waiting for over an hour each time. Has anyone dealt with Roth withdrawals while on survivor benefits?
Another thing to watch is if youre still CONTRIBUTING to the Roth while collecting SS benefits! If youre putting money IN, that money had to come from somewhere and if it came from working that DOES count toward the limit!! The SSA looks at your TAX RETURN not just your W2!!
This is partially correct but needs clarification. If you're working and earning income, it's the earnings from work that count toward the limit, not the Roth contribution itself. The act of contributing to a Roth doesn't impact your benefits - it's the work income that generated the money that matters. And if you're using money from savings or non-work sources to contribute to a Roth, that doesn't affect the earnings test at all.
im so confused about all this survivor benefit stuff... i turn 60 next month and my husband died 3 years ago. should i take survivors now or wait? does the roth thing affect when i should file??
The Roth question doesn't really impact when you should claim survivor benefits. That decision should be based on: 1. Your current income needs 2. Your health/life expectancy 3. Your own Social Security retirement benefit amount 4. Your current earnings from work If you claim at 60, you'll get about 71.5% of your husband's full benefit. Each year you wait (until your Full Retirement Age of 67), the benefit increases. If you're still working with substantial earnings, you might want to wait due to the earnings limit. Consider speaking with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security claiming strategies, as the right choice varies greatly depending on your specific situation.
@Mae Bennett gave excellent advice! I m'in a similar situation - lost my husband 2 years ago and just turned 59. I ve'been going back and forth on when to claim survivor benefits too. One thing my financial advisor mentioned is that if you have other income sources like (investments, part-time work, etc. you) might have more flexibility to wait for the higher benefit amount. The earnings limit only applies to work income, so having Roth IRA money available for expenses could actually give you more options about when to claim. Definitely worth getting professional advice though - there are so many variables to consider!
My wife and I are in a situation where I'm planning to file for Social Security retirement this September (I'll be 65). Our daughter (now 29) has been disabled since age 17 and has received SSI since she turned 18. We want to understand how to transition her to Disabled Adult Child (DAC) benefits when I retire, plus my wife hopes to receive Child-in-Care (CIC) spousal benefits. I'm completely confused about the appointment process. Should we: 1. Schedule one joint appointment for all three of us? 2. Make separate appointments for each person? 3. Request a specific department that handles family benefit situations? 4. Go in-person or can this be handled by phone? We really need to get accurate benefit estimates for our financial planning, especially understanding how much our daughter's benefits might increase switching from SSI to DAC. The SSA website is confusing me with all these different benefit types. Has anyone navigated this kind of family benefits situation before?
don't forget about the ASSET LIMITS - my sister had to spend down savings when she went on SSI but when she switched to DAC those limits went away and she could finally save money without losing benefits. that was a huge positive for us.
As someone who recently went through a similar situation with my disabled son, I want to emphasize a few key points that haven't been fully covered: 1. **Timing is crucial** - Since you're filing at 65 (before your FRA), your reduced retirement benefit will also reduce your daughter's DAC benefit. Consider whether waiting until your FRA might result in higher overall family benefits. 2. **Medicaid gap planning** - This is the biggest concern. In many states, there's a gap between losing SSI-related Medicaid and qualifying for Medicare (24 months after DAC starts). Contact your state's SHIP (State Health Insurance Assistance Program) counselor to understand your options. 3. **Income reporting changes** - Your daughter will need to stop reporting income to SSI once DAC begins, but there can be overpayment issues if not timed correctly. 4. **Representative payee considerations** - If you're currently your daughter's SSI representative payee, you'll need to establish this role for DAC benefits too. My recommendation: Get the estimates first, then consult with a certified benefits planner (CDFA or similar) before making any applications. The math can be complex, and the Medicaid implications vary significantly by state. Don't rush into this without understanding all the consequences.
Omar Fawaz
my nieghbor said if u wait long enuff sometimes they forget the overpayment lol but i wudnt count on it!!!
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Freya Pedersen
This is dangerous misinformation. SSA never 'forgets' overpayments - they have a dedicated department that tracks and recovers them, sometimes years later. They can recover funds through tax refund intercepts, garnishment of future benefits, and other methods. Always address overpayments directly through official channels.
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Demi Lagos
I work as a benefits advocate and see this exact situation frequently. The key issue is that SSA's computer systems for SSI and survivor benefits don't communicate well with each other, even though they're both SSA programs. Here's what typically happens: survivor benefits are processed through one system while SSI adjustments require manual intervention from a different department. I strongly recommend going to your local office with printed documentation of both benefit amounts and asking to speak with a supervisor who can manually initiate a "concurrent benefit review." Don't just report it - ask them to create a case note that you're requesting immediate processing due to potential overpayment concerns. Also, request they provide you with a written acknowledgment that you reported the change. This paper trail is absolutely critical if they later try to collect an overpayment from you. The fact that you've called multiple times already shows good faith on your part.
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