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Missing ex-spouse Social Security benefit top-off payments from 2017-2022 - can I get backpay?

I started receiving SSDI in 2017 (I was born in 1962) after working with chronic health issues for years. Just last year, I found out through a random conversation with my neighbor that I could receive additional benefits based on my ex-husband's record since we were married for 14 years. I immediately called SSA and after providing my divorce decree, I now receive an extra $425 monthly as a 'top-off' from his record (he was born in 1958 and started collecting earlier than me). My question is: Shouldn't I have been receiving this ex-spouse benefit top-off amount since 2017 when my SSDI first started? Nobody at SSA ever mentioned this possibility to me. Is there any way to receive backpay for those 5+ years when I was eligible but didn't know to apply? That's over $25,000 I potentially missed out on! Has anyone successfully gotten retroactive payments in a situation like this?

Regarding your appeal options if denied: 1. Request for Reconsideration: This is the first level of appeal. You'd submit form SSA-561. 2. Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) Hearing: If the reconsideration is denied, you can request a hearing. 3. Appeals Council Review: If the ALJ denies your claim, you can request the Appeals Council to review it. 4. Federal Court Review: The final level would be filing a civil action in Federal District Court. However, I want to set realistic expectations. For retroactive benefits beyond the standard 6-month period, the success rate is extremely low unless there was documented misinformation or you can prove you attempted to file earlier. Regarding your ex-husband's age affecting eligibility: You're onto something important. If he wasn't yet receiving benefits or eligible for benefits when you applied for SSDI, that could explain why you weren't informed initially. The divorced spouse benefit rules require the ex-spouse to be entitled to benefits (though they don't have to be claiming them if you've been divorced for at least 2 years).

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Thank you for the detailed appeal process. I think I'll start with requesting the benefits explanation document, then file for reconsideration if needed. At least I understand the system better now, even if the outcome isn't what I hoped for.

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I'm so sorry this happened to you! As a newcomer here, I'm learning how common this issue is from reading everyone's responses. It's really eye-opening and honestly pretty scary that SSA doesn't proactively inform people about benefits they're eligible for. I'm curious - when you initially applied for SSDI in 2017, did they ask you about your marriage history at all? Or was the application process focused only on your disability claim? I'm wondering if there's any documentation from that initial application that might help support a "good cause" argument, even though it sounds like the chances are slim. Also, has anyone here had success working with a disability attorney or advocate for situations like this? I know they typically work on contingency for initial claims, but I'm not sure if they'd take on retroactive benefit cases.

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Will earnings from January-September count against SS income limit if retiring October 2025?

I'm planning to apply for Social Security retirement benefits starting October 2025 when I'll be 65 (still below my FRA of 67). I understand there's an earnings limit of $23,400 for 2025 for people under FRA. My question is about timing: If I earn $45,000 between January-September 2025, then stop working completely before I start collecting in October, will those pre-retirement earnings count against my limit and reduce my first payment in November? Or does the earnings test only apply to income earned AFTER I start receiving benefits? I've heard conflicting information from friends and don't want to be surprised with a reduced check. Thanks for any clarity!

Just wanted to add one more perspective as someone who works in HR and processes retirement paperwork regularly. When you do retire in October, make sure to get written confirmation from your employer about your last day of work and final paycheck date. SSA sometimes asks for this documentation during their review process, especially if there are any questions about when you truly stopped working. Also, if you have any contract work or consulting income planned after retirement, that would count toward the monthly earnings test even if it's just occasional work. The key is making sure you have a clear, documented end to your regular employment. Good luck with your retirement planning!

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This has been such a comprehensive discussion! I'm also planning to retire at 65 in 2025 and this thread answered so many questions I didn't even know I had. Just wanted to add one resource that helped me - the SSA website has a retirement estimator tool that lets you model different retirement scenarios, including how the earnings test would affect your specific situation. It's at ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/estimator.html. You can input different income levels and retirement dates to see projected benefit amounts. While it doesn't replace talking to an actual SSA representative, it's been helpful for my initial planning. Also, if anyone is considering working part-time after retirement instead of stopping completely, the tool shows how that would impact benefits under the earnings test. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's made me much more confident about my own retirement timing!

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Do both children from inside and outside marriage qualify for Social Security survivor benefits after father's death?

My friend just lost her husband unexpectedly last month. They have a 10-year-old son together, and she just discovered that her husband also has a 1-year-old child with another woman. It's a devastating situation all around. She's trying to understand how Social Security survivor benefits work in this case. Would both children qualify for survivor benefits? And what about the mothers - would both my friend (the wife) and the other child's mother qualify for caretaker benefits? She's completely overwhelmed right now and trying to figure out next steps financially. Any insights would be really helpful.

I'd recommend that your friend schedule an appointment with her local SSA office rather than trying to handle everything by phone. Survivor cases with multiple beneficiaries across different households can get complex, and it's easier to sort everything out face-to-face. She should bring all documentation (marriage certificate, birth certificates, death certificate, etc.) to the appointment. Also, the children's benefits will continue until they turn 18 (or 19 if still in high school), but the mother's benefits will end when the youngest child in her care turns 16, unless she's eligible for widow's benefits based on age at that point.

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Thank you so much for all this information. It's giving my friend a starting point during a really difficult time. I'll help her schedule an appointment with SSA.

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I'm so sorry for your friend's loss. This is such a heartbreaking situation. From what others have shared, it sounds like both children will qualify for survivor benefits, which is good news at least. I just wanted to add that your friend might also want to look into any life insurance policies her husband may have had through work or privately - sometimes people forget about these during such a difficult time, but they can provide additional financial support. Also, if she's struggling to make ends meet while waiting for the SSA benefits to start, she might want to check if she qualifies for emergency assistance through local social services or churches in her area. Many communities have programs specifically to help families during these crisis situations.

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Can my sister get Social Security survivor benefits at 59 or must she wait until 60?

My sister just lost her husband about 6 months ago and she's completely devastated. On top of her grief, she's also worried about finances since he was the primary earner. She's currently 59 years old (turns 60 next December) and someone told her she might be eligible for Social Security survivor benefits, but someone else said she has to be exactly 60 before she can apply. I'm trying to help her figure this out but getting conflicting information. Can she apply now at 59 or does she absolutely have to wait until she turns 60? Is there any exception for widows who are close to 60? She worked part-time for most of her marriage so she doesn't have much in Social Security credits herself. Any help would be so appreciated!

Another consideration for your sister: if she's struggling financially while waiting to turn 60, she might want to look into whether she qualifies for any state-level widow assistance programs. These vary by state but can sometimes provide temporary support. Also, if her husband had a pension, life insurance, or other retirement accounts, make sure she's explored all those potential income sources while waiting for Social Security eligibility.

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That's a great suggestion! I'll help her look into state-level programs. She did receive his life insurance, but it wasn't a huge policy. I think he had a small 401k too that we need to follow up on. These are good reminders to explore everything available to her.

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I'm so sorry for your sister's loss. This is such a difficult time to be navigating these complex benefits questions. Based on what everyone has shared here, it sounds like the consensus is that she'll need to wait until she turns 60 in December to apply for survivor benefits, unless she qualifies for one of the specific exceptions (disability or caring for a child under 16/disabled). Since December isn't too far away, I'd recommend she use this time to gather all the necessary documents she'll need for the application - things like her marriage certificate, her husband's death certificate, both of their Social Security cards, and any relevant tax returns. Having everything ready will make the process smoother when she can finally apply. Also, given that she worked part-time, it might be worth getting an estimate of what her own retirement benefits would be at different ages versus the survivor benefits, so she can make the most informed decision about timing. The SSA website has benefit calculators that can help with this planning.

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Social Security delayed retirement credits after 68 - husband doesn't believe 8% yearly increase

My husband is planning to retire from his job next year at 68, but insists on filing for his Social Security immediately after stopping work. I've been trying to explain that even if he's not working anymore, his SS benefit will still grow by 8% for each year he delays claiming between 68 and 70. That's potentially a 16% permanent increase in his monthly payment if he waits until 70! The problem is he absolutely doesn't believe me. He thinks the 8% growth only applies if you're still working and paying into the system. I've tried showing him articles online but he says they're 'too complicated' and 'probably outdated anyway.' Can someone please explain how delayed retirement credits work in simple terms that I can share with him? I'm worried he's going to leave thousands of dollars on the table over our retirement because he doesn't understand this benefit growth. Are there any official SSA calculators where I could show him the exact dollar difference?

Update: I showed my husband all your comments and the SSA link about delayed retirement credits. He was surprised but still skeptical. We logged into his my Social Security account together and looked at his projected benefit amounts at different ages. Seeing the actual dollar difference ($475 more per month if he waits until 70!) finally convinced him. He's now planning to use some of our savings to bridge the gap between 68-70 and wait to claim his Social Security. Thank you everyone for your help explaining this! And special thanks to the person who mentioned the survivor benefit aspect - that was something we hadn't considered at all.

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That's fantastic! So glad you were able to convince him. That $475 monthly increase will add up to over $100,000 extra if he lives to 90 (which is not unusual these days). You made the right call pushing him to understand this!

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Congratulations on getting through to your husband! That $475/month difference is huge - you're absolutely right to have pushed for this understanding. Just wanted to add one more thing that might be helpful for others reading this thread: if you're using savings to bridge the gap between retirement and claiming SS, make sure you're withdrawing from the right accounts tax-wise. For example, if you have traditional 401k/IRA money, those years before claiming Social Security might be a great time for Roth conversions since your income will be lower. A financial advisor can help optimize which accounts to tap during that 68-70 bridge period. The tax savings could be substantial and make the delayed claiming strategy even more beneficial!

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