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i think im the only 1 that actually filed early n was happy with it lol. i took mine 3 months b4 FRA and just stopped working completely. got a smaller check but started enjoying retirement sooner. no regrets!! sometimes the $$ isnt everything, time is valuable 2!
As someone who went through a similar decision last year, I'd strongly recommend waiting until May. I initially considered filing early while still working, but after running the numbers and talking to SSA, it became clear that the earnings test would likely wipe out most or all of my benefits anyway. The key thing to remember is that with your income level ($5,800/month), you're significantly over the earnings limit. Not only would you face benefit withholding, but you'd also be permanently reducing your monthly payment by $139 - which as others have pointed out, adds up to a substantial amount over time. I ended up waiting until my FRA and it was definitely the right call. No hassle with earnings tests, no reduced benefits, and no confusing paperwork from SSA about overpayments. Sometimes the simpler path really is the better one!
One more important thing to note - when your husband passes away, you should not cash or deposit his final Social Security payment if it arrives after his death. That payment will need to be returned to SSA. They will then issue the correct payment based on the date of death. This is a common point of confusion that can lead to overpayment issues later.
As someone who has worked with many families going through this transition, I want to emphasize a few key points that haven't been mentioned yet. First, make sure you keep detailed records of all communications with SSA - dates, names of representatives you spoke with, and case numbers. This becomes invaluable if there are any delays or discrepancies. Second, consider having multiple copies of the death certificate ready, as you'll need certified copies for various agencies and financial institutions beyond just SSA. Finally, if you have any direct deposit information that needs updating or if you want payments sent to a different account, bring that banking information with you when you apply for survivor benefits. The last thing you want to worry about during a difficult time is payment logistics. Planning these details now while you have the mental bandwidth will make the process much smoother later.
This is incredibly helpful advice, especially about keeping detailed records! I never would have thought about needing multiple death certificates for different agencies. Your point about having banking information ready is also really smart - the last thing anyone wants during grief is to have payment delays because of missing paperwork. Thank you for sharing your professional experience with us. It's clear you've helped many families navigate this difficult process.
This is excellent practical advice! I hadn't thought about keeping detailed records of SSA conversations, but that makes so much sense given how backed up their system seems to be right now. The point about multiple death certificates is especially helpful - I imagine you need them for banks, insurance, pensions, and who knows what else. One question: do you recommend calling ahead to find out exactly which documents SSA will need for the survivor benefits application, or is it pretty standardized? I want to make sure I have everything ready so I don't have to make multiple trips during what will already be a difficult time.
You're doing the right thing by planning ahead! I work with SSA cases and see this situation frequently. Your wife absolutely should apply for SSDI now - not just for potential immediate benefits, but to establish her disability onset date in the system. This is crucial because if something happens to you, she'll need that official disability determination to qualify for disabled widow benefits before age 60. One thing I'd add to what others have mentioned: make sure she applies within the statute of limitations. Generally, you have 5 years from your disability onset date to file for SSDI. If her health issues started 12 years ago, she might need to be strategic about documenting when her condition became severe enough to prevent work. Also, even if she's initially denied (which happens to about 65% of first-time applicants), don't give up. The appeals process exists for a reason, and having that denial on record still helps establish when she first sought disability recognition, which could be important for future survivor claims.
That's really valuable insight about the 5-year statute of limitations - I hadn't thought about that timing issue at all. Since her severe symptoms started about 12 years ago, should we be documenting when she actually had to stop working or when her condition worsened to the point of being disabling? I want to make sure we approach this correctly from the start.
This is such an important topic that more couples need to understand! I went through something similar with my parents. My dad was receiving SSDI and my mom had chronic conditions but never applied because his benefits covered their needs. When he passed away unexpectedly, we learned the hard way about these rules. What really helped us was understanding that there are actually two separate things happening here: your wife establishing her own disability status with SSA, and the future potential for survivor benefits. Even if her SSDI application results in $0 monthly payments (due to family maximum rules or other factors), having that official disability determination is what opens the door for early survivor benefits. One thing I'd strongly recommend is keeping detailed records of her medical appointments, treatments, and how her conditions affect daily activities. The SSA will want to see a clear picture of her functional limitations, not just diagnoses. Also, if she hasn't seen doctors recently for her conditions, it might be worth scheduling some appointments to get current medical evidence before applying. You're being really smart to think about this now rather than waiting. The peace of mind alone is worth going through the application process.
This is really helpful advice, thank you! I hadn't considered that she might get $0 in monthly payments but still have the disability determination on file - that makes total sense. We definitely need to get her back to seeing doctors regularly for her conditions. She's been managing with her current medications but hasn't had recent evaluations that would show how her conditions have progressed. I'll start scheduling those appointments before we begin the application process.
Based on what you've shared, here's what I recommend as your next steps: 1. Help your daughter create a my Social Security account at ssa.gov to check her work credits. 2. Gather comprehensive medical evidence: - Clinical records from therapists/doctors - Psychological evaluations if available - Prescription medication history - Treatment notes documenting symptoms and limitations - Any hospitalizations or intensive outpatient treatment 3. Document how her conditions affect daily functioning: - Failed work attempts with specific details - Difficulties with daily activities - Social functioning limitations - Episodes of decompensation (periods when symptoms worsen) 4. Apply for both SSDI and SSI simultaneously online or by calling SSA. 5. Consider getting a disability attorney if initially denied (most work on contingency). The combination of multiple mental health conditions plus asthma could strengthen her case, especially if you can document how they interact to further limit her functioning.
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm going to start gathering all this documentation right away. One more question - she's currently on my health insurance (thankfully). If she gets approved for disability, would she eventually qualify for Medicare or Medicaid? I'm wondering how her healthcare would work long-term.
With SSDI, she would get Medicare after 24 months of receiving benefits. With SSI, she would likely get Medicaid immediately in most states. Either way, she would eventually have health coverage, which is important for maintaining the treatment she needs. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet: make sure her doctors are specifically documenting how her conditions limit her ability to work. Many doctors focus on symptoms and treatment but don't explicitly address work capacity in their notes. You might want to ask her providers to complete a Medical Source Statement or Residual Functional Capacity form that specifically addresses work-related limitations. Also, if she's denied initially (which is common), don't give up! Request reconsideration within 60 days, and if denied again, request a hearing before an Administrative Law Judge. Success rates increase significantly at the hearing level, especially with proper representation.
Thank you for this information about healthcare coverage - that's been a major concern. I'll definitely talk to her therapist about documenting work limitations specifically. Would it be helpful to get statements from previous employers about the accommodations they tried to make for her and why they weren't sufficient?
Liam O'Donnell
One last thought - your sister should consider scheduling an appointment with SSA now, even though she's not eligible yet. They can provide an estimate of what her survivor benefit amount will be at different claiming ages, which will help with financial planning. Also, they can explain the earnings limit if she plans to continue working while receiving benefits before her full retirement age. The earnings limit is quite restrictive and can cause benefits to be withheld if she earns too much.
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Mei Liu
•That's excellent advice. I'll suggest she schedule an appointment soon to get those estimates. She's hoping to increase her work hours eventually, so understanding that earnings limit will be really important. Thanks again!
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Diego Rojas
I'm so sorry for your family's loss. This is such valuable information being shared here. I wanted to add that your sister might also want to check if her late husband had any life insurance through his employer or if there are any union benefits she might be entitled to. These aren't Social Security benefits, but they could provide some immediate financial relief while she waits until age 60 for survivor benefits. Also, if he was a veteran, there may be VA survivor benefits available that have different eligibility requirements than Social Security. It's worth checking all possible sources of support during this incredibly difficult time.
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Keisha Taylor
•That's really thoughtful advice about checking other potential benefits beyond Social Security. I hadn't even thought about employer life insurance or union benefits - I'll definitely have her look into those. He wasn't a veteran, but the employer angle is worth exploring since he worked for the same company for over 20 years. Thank you for thinking of additional resources that might help bridge the gap until she can claim survivor benefits at 60.
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