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Just to clarify something that might be confusing - when we talk about your "spousal benefit" in this scenario, you're not actually switching from your retirement benefit to a spousal benefit. Instead, you'll receive your own reduced retirement benefit PLUS a spousal add-on amount (if you qualify for one based on the calculations). The deemed filing rules mean that when you file for one benefit (retirement), you're deemed to have filed for all benefits you're eligible for at that time. This prevents people from selecting one benefit type now and another later to maximize payments. Definitely contact SSA to see what additional amount you might receive. The application process for the spousal component is relatively straightforward once you get through to a representative.
I went through this exact same situation about 2 years ago! Filed early at 62 and was getting around $950/month when my husband finally started collecting his $2,400 at FRA. I was so hopeful I'd get a big boost but ended up with only about $180 extra per month as a spousal add-on. The SSA calculator they use is pretty complex but here's what I learned: they take 50% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (his benefit at FRA before any delayed credits), subtract your own PIA, and then reduce that difference based on when you filed early. In my case, since I filed 4 years and 10 months before my FRA, the reduction was significant. Don't get discouraged though - that extra $180 has really helped, especially with rising costs. And like others said, definitely apply soon because they only backpay 6 months maximum. I made the mistake of waiting 8 months after my husband started collecting and lost out on some money. Good luck!
i had something simlar happn but it was bcause i was on SSI not retirment. SSI is the one that gets reduced when u marry someone with income. reglar social secrity retirement stays the same no matter who u marry or how rich they are. my uncle married a really rich lady and still gets his full SS check every month lol
Just wanted to jump in as someone who went through this exact worry! My husband and I got married when he was already collecting his retirement benefits at 67, and I was terrified his payments would change. They didn't! His monthly deposit has stayed exactly the same for the past two years since our marriage. The SSA website has a really helpful tool called the Retirement Estimator that can give you an idea of what your own benefits might look like when you're ready to claim at 67. That way you can compare it to potential spousal benefits. Also, I'd recommend creating a my Social Security account online if you haven't already - it shows your earnings record and projected benefits, which makes planning so much easier than trying to guess. Your husband's neighbor probably meant well, but it sounds like they were thinking of a different situation entirely. Congratulations on your marriage, and don't let this stress you out unnecessarily!
Just to add one more important detail: The "deemed filing" rules changed in 2015. For anyone born after January 1, 1954, when you file for either your retirement or spousal benefit, you are "deemed" to have filed for both. This eliminated some filing strategies that older retirees could use. In your case, when you file, the SSA will automatically give you the higher of either your own benefit or the spousal benefit. But since your own benefit is less than 50% of your husband's, you'll receive your own benefit plus the difference to reach that 50% threshold (assuming you both file at FRA).
One thing I wanted to add that might be helpful - you mentioned you're both turning 62 next year. Even though you CAN start claiming at 62, the reduction is pretty significant. For someone with a full retirement age of 67 (which applies to people born in 1960 or later), claiming at 62 means your benefit is reduced to about 75% of what you'd get at FRA. So in your case, instead of getting your $1,250 plus the $450 spousal supplement (total $1,700), you'd get about 75% of that if you claim at 62. That's a permanent reduction that doesn't go away later. I'd strongly recommend running the numbers on waiting even just a year or two if you can swing it financially. The SSA's retirement estimator tool can show you exactly how much more you'd get by waiting. Sometimes even working part-time for a couple more years while delaying Social Security can make a big difference in your monthly income for the rest of your life.
I haven't tried going in person yet, but that's a great suggestion. The office is about 40 minutes away, so it's not too bad. I've just been avoiding it because I heard the wait times can be long even with an appointment. But it might be worth it to get this sorted out face-to-face with someone who can look at all my documentation at once.
I'm so sorry for your loss, Rachel. This situation is unfortunately common but can definitely be resolved with the new WEP/GPO changes. Since you were a teacher in a non-covered state for 22 years, WEP was definitely reducing your benefit. Here's what I'd recommend as your next steps: 1. **Don't wait for automatic recalculation** - While SSA says they'll do it automatically, being proactive is smart given how overwhelmed they are with these changes. 2. **Schedule an in-person appointment** - I know it's 40 minutes away, but for something this complex, face-to-face is often more effective. You can bring all your documents and they can review everything at once. 3. **Bring specific documents**: your original denial letter, marriage certificate, death certificate, and any correspondence about WEP reductions. 4. **Ask specific questions**: - What was your exact benefit amount before and after WEP? - What would your survivor benefit be without any reductions? - When exactly will they recalculate as WEP phases out? The phase-out means your WEP reduction will decrease by 20% each year starting in 2025. If this makes your survivor benefit higher than your own benefit at any point, they should automatically switch you. You've got this! The new law is designed to help people exactly like you.
Vince Eh
Thank you all SO MUCH for the helpful information! I feel much better understanding how this works now. I'm going to keep tracking my hours carefully, make sure I stay under that $1,110 monthly for now, and report everything properly. It's such a relief to know I can work these few hours without risking my benefits entirely. Going to call SSA directly to confirm everything for my specific case just to be 100% sure.
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Abby Marshall
Smart move calling SSA directly to confirm your specific situation! Just a heads up - when you call, have your exact monthly earnings figures ready and ask them to document in your file that you're reporting your work activity. Also consider asking about the Ticket to Work program if you're interested in potentially increasing your hours down the line - it provides additional work incentives and protections. You're doing everything right by staying informed and being proactive about reporting. Keep those pay stubs organized and don't let anyone scare you away from working within the guidelines - the system is actually designed to encourage work attempts when done properly!
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Amara Okonkwo
•This is all really encouraging to hear! As someone new to this community, I'm so grateful for all the detailed explanations everyone has shared. I'm in a similar situation where I'm considering part-time work but was terrified about the rules. Reading through this thread has been incredibly educational - especially learning that TWP months don't have to be consecutive and that you get that 36-month Extended Period of Eligibility after. The suggestion about Ticket to Work is something I hadn't heard of before either. Thank you @Vince Eh for asking the question that so many of us needed answered, and thanks to everyone who took the time to explain the rules so clearly!
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