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Thank you all for the incredibly helpful information! This cleared up so much confusion. Based on what I'm hearing, it sounds like my best strategy is to continue working until my FRA and then apply for benefits - either my own or ex-spouse benefits, whichever is higher at that point. I'm going to try to get through to SSA to confirm all these details for my specific situation. It's frustrating that these rules are so complicated, but I'm grateful for all your insights!
That's the smartest approach. One last tip: about 3-4 months before you reach your FRA, go ahead and schedule an appointment with SSA to review both benefit options. By then, they'll have your complete earnings record (including these additional years of work), and can give you precise benefit estimates. Good luck!
Just wanted to add one more consideration that might be helpful - since you mentioned your ex's benefit will be about twice yours, make sure you're comparing apples to apples. When you say "twice what mine would be," are you comparing both benefits at full retirement age? Also, don't forget that your own benefit can continue to grow with delayed retirement credits if you wait past your FRA (up to 8% per year until age 70), but ex-spouse benefits don't get those delayed credits. So depending on how much higher your ex's benefit actually is, it might be worth running the numbers on waiting until 70 for your own benefit vs. taking the ex-spouse benefit at FRA. The Social Security website has a retirement estimator that can help you model different scenarios, though talking to SSA directly is still your best bet for personalized advice!
I'm in almost the same boat (69, working full-time, taking SS since Jan 2025). My tax guy told me that the payroll withholding counts exactly the same as quarterly estimated payments. But he did say to check what my actual tax liability is likely to be. Don't forget that up to 85% of your SS benefits could be taxable depending on your total income. Make sure your extra $200/paycheck covers that. I'm having $275 extra taken out per paycheck just to be safe.
That's good to know! I think I might need to increase my withholding a bit to be safe. Did your tax person mention anything about penalties if you don't withhold enough?
Yes - he said if you don't pay enough throughout the year (either through withholding or quarterly payments), you can get hit with an "underpayment penalty." But he also mentioned there's a safe harbor - if you pay at least 100% of what you owed last year (or 110% if your income is over $150k), you won't get penalized even if you end up owing more when you file.
I went through this exact same situation last year when I turned 67 and started collecting SS while still working! The frustration with getting clear answers from both SSA and IRS is so real - I must have spent 6 hours on hold between the two agencies. What you're doing with the extra $200 withholding is perfect. I did something similar and had no issues at tax time. The key thing I learned is that as long as your total withholding (regular + extra) covers either 90% of this year's tax or 100% of last year's tax, you're golden. No penalties, no quarterly payment forms needed. One tip: keep good records of when you started the extra withholding and how much. It helped me when I filed my taxes to have everything documented. Also, don't let anyone scare you into thinking you need to do BOTH withholding AND quarterly payments - that's overkill and completely unnecessary. You're handling this the smart way. The extra withholding from your paycheck is actually better than quarterly payments because the IRS treats it as if you paid evenly throughout the year, even though you didn't start until August.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's such a relief to hear from someone who actually went through this exact situation. The part about keeping good records is really smart advice - I'll make sure to document everything about my extra withholding. Six hours on hold sounds about right for what I experienced too! It's crazy how neither agency wants to give you a straight answer about something so many working retirees deal with. Your confirmation that the extra withholding worked perfectly for you gives me a lot more confidence that I'm on the right track.
I read somewhere that for couples with big differences in their benefit amounts, there's almost ALWAYS an advantage to the lower-benefit spouse filing early and the higher-benefit spouse delaying, especially considering survivor benefits. Has anyone else seen research on this? Or is this just conventional wisdom that doesn't always hold up with actual numbers?
You're referencing what's often called the "62/70 Split" strategy, which does tend to optimize benefits for couples with significant benefit disparities. The research supporting this comes from economists like William Reichenstein and William Meyer, who've published extensively on Social Security claiming strategies. The lower earner filing early provides income during the delay period, while the higher earner's delay maximizes the eventual survivor benefit. The strategy is particularly effective when: 1. There's a significant PIA difference (as in OP's case) 2. The couple has sufficient assets to fund the delay period 3. At least one spouse (typically the lower earner) has a strong likelihood of exceeding average life expectancy But you're right - actual numbers should always be run for individual situations, as specific circumstances can sometimes lead to different optimal strategies.
As someone who went through this exact decision process two years ago, I can share what we learned. My wife and I had a similar PIA gap ($850 vs $3,900), and after consulting with a fee-only financial planner who specialized in Social Security, we ended up with the "62/70 split" strategy that others have mentioned. The key insight was realizing that the break-even calculations change dramatically when you factor in the survivor benefit scenario. Yes, the lifetime benefit difference might seem small when both spouses are alive, but the protection for the surviving spouse (likely you) is substantial. We also discovered that having other retirement assets actually makes delaying MORE valuable, not less, because you can afford to let the higher benefit grow while living off savings. The enhanced survivor benefit essentially becomes a form of longevity insurance that you can't buy anywhere else. One practical tip: Get your actual benefit estimates from SSA (not calculators) and run the numbers assuming you live to 90-95, not just average life expectancy. The differences become much more meaningful over longer time horizons. Given your solid retirement savings, I'd strongly consider having your husband delay to 70 while you file at 62. The survivor benefit protection alone is probably worth it.
This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing your real experience! It's reassuring to hear from someone who actually implemented the 62/70 split with similar circumstances. I'm curious about one thing: when you say to get actual benefit estimates from SSA rather than calculators, did you find significant differences between what the calculators projected versus what SSA told you? I've been relying heavily on online calculators but now I'm wondering if I should prioritize getting the official numbers first before making any final decisions.
@Maya Lewis, thank you so much for sharing your experience! This is exactly the kind of real-world perspective I needed. Your situation sounds nearly identical to ours, and it's reassuring to hear that the 62/70 split worked well for you. I'm particularly interested in your point about using other retirement assets to fund the delay period. We've been thinking about it backwards - worrying that we'd need Social Security income earlier. But you're right that having the $900K in retirement accounts actually gives us the flexibility to optimize the Social Security strategy for maximum long-term protection. The longevity insurance concept really resonates. When I think about potentially living 20-30 years as a widow (like so many women do), that enhanced survivor benefit becomes much more valuable than the relatively small difference in total lifetime benefits while we're both alive. Did you find that your financial planner used any specific software or methodology that was particularly helpful in modeling the different scenarios?
Thank you all so much for the helpful information. I'm going to try calling SSA again tomorrow and ask specifically about: 1. The exact amount I would receive if I switch to survivor benefits now vs. at my FRA 2. Whether I should continue with my own benefit or switch to survivor benefits 3. That $255 death benefit I hadn't heard about I'll ask to speak with a technical expert if the representative seems unsure. I'm feeling much more prepared now thanks to all your explanations. I'll update here once I get some answers from SSA.
I'm so sorry for your loss, Isabella. You're asking all the right questions and it sounds like you're getting great advice here. One additional thing to consider - when you call SSA tomorrow, also ask about retroactive benefits. Since your husband passed in February and you're just now getting this sorted out, you may be entitled to survivor benefits dating back to the month after his death. This could result in a lump sum payment for the months you've missed. The SSA doesn't always mention this automatically, so make sure to specifically ask about it. Also, bring a copy of the death certificate when you visit in person if the phone calls don't work out - sometimes having all documentation in hand speeds up the process. Wishing you the best with this difficult situation.
Ava Martinez
As someone who's been through the SSA maze myself, I'd definitely recommend scheduling that in-person appointment! The automated messages you're getting are just their standard processing notifications - they don't really tell you anything useful about your actual SSI eligibility. The reality is that with your husband's military retirement and VA disability income totaling $5,600/month, you're likely over the SSI income limits (which are around $1,415/month for couples in 2025). But it's still worth getting an official determination so you know for sure. One thing to keep in mind: when your husband does claim his Social Security at 62 in 2028, your spousal benefit will be based on his reduced amount since he's claiming before full retirement age. Given that you already have his military pension and VA disability for income, you might want to crunch the numbers on whether it makes sense for him to wait until his full retirement age (probably 67) to maximize both of your lifetime benefits. Also, don't forget about TRICARE for Life when he turns 65 - that plus Medicare will give you excellent healthcare coverage even if you have to wait a bit longer for it. Hang in there!
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Amina Bah
•This is really helpful advice! I think you're absolutely right about getting that in-person appointment to get a definitive answer rather than trying to decode these automated messages. And you make an excellent point about potentially waiting longer than 62 for my husband to claim - I keep hearing from people that the math often works out better if you can afford to wait until full retirement age. Since we do have his military benefits to live on, maybe we should seriously consider that option. The TRICARE for Life mention is great too - I sometimes forget about all the different pieces that will eventually come together. Thanks for the encouragement and practical perspective!
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Destiny Bryant
I really feel for your situation! As a military spouse myself, I know how isolating it can feel when the system doesn't seem designed for people who've sacrificed their own careers for service and caregiving. Based on what others have shared, your household income of $5,600/month unfortunately puts you well over the SSI limits. But here's something encouraging - spousal Social Security benefits are typically much better than SSI anyway! When your husband claims at 62, you could potentially get up to 50% of his benefit amount, which will likely be significantly more than the maximum SSI payment. That said, I'd echo what others have mentioned about considering whether he should wait past 62 to claim. Since you have his military retirement and VA disability providing a solid foundation, running the numbers on waiting until his full retirement age (probably 67) could mean substantially higher lifetime benefits for both of you. Also, don't overlook that you'll eventually have an amazing healthcare setup with Medicare + TRICARE for Life - that's honestly one of the best healthcare combinations you can have in retirement. The waiting is frustrating, but you're actually in a much better position than many people. Your husband's military service is going to provide you with multiple layers of financial security that most civilian couples don't have access to. Hang in there!
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Mei Chen
•Thank you so much for this encouraging perspective! It really helps to hear from another military spouse who understands this unique situation. You're absolutely right that we're actually in a better position than many people - sometimes when you're in the middle of trying to figure everything out, it's easy to lose sight of that. The point about Medicare + TRICARE for Life is especially reassuring since healthcare costs are such a big worry for retirement planning. I think you and others have convinced me that we really need to sit down and do the math on waiting past 62 versus claiming early. It sounds like the patience might really pay off in the long run, especially since we're fortunate to have his military benefits as a bridge. Thanks for the reminder that his service will continue to provide for our family even in retirement!
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