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I'm new here but this is such helpful information! I'm turning 62 next month and was considering taking early retirement benefits while continuing to work part-time. Reading through all these responses really clarifies that my Social Security payments won't count against the earnings limit - only my work income will. I had been worried I'd have to choose between working and getting benefits, but now I see I can do both as long as I stay under the $22,300 gross earnings limit. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences!
Welcome to the community! You're absolutely right that you can do both - work part-time and receive Social Security benefits. Just keep track of your gross earnings throughout the year to make sure you stay under that $22,300 limit. One tip I learned from reading through these discussions is to maybe keep a running total of your paychecks so you don't accidentally go over. Good luck with your retirement planning!
Great question and congratulations on getting approved! Just to reinforce what others have said - your Social Security benefits absolutely do NOT count toward the $22,300 earnings limit. Only earned income from employment counts (wages, self-employment income, etc.). One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned much is to keep good records of your earnings throughout the year. I recommend setting up a simple spreadsheet or even just writing down your gross pay from each paycheck so you can track where you stand relative to that $22,300 limit. It's easy to lose track, especially if your hours vary from week to week in part-time work. Also, remember that the limit is based on the calendar year, not when you start receiving benefits. So even though you're starting benefits in November, the $22,300 limit applies to your total earnings for all of 2025. Best of luck with your part-time work and enjoy those Social Security checks!
This is really excellent advice, especially about keeping track of your earnings! I'm also new to this whole Social Security thing and hadn't thought about setting up a tracking system. A spreadsheet sounds like a great idea. Since I'll be working part-time with potentially varying hours, it would be really easy to accidentally go over that limit without realizing it. Thanks for mentioning that the limit is for the whole calendar year too - I was wondering about that timing piece. It's so helpful to have experienced people like you sharing practical tips!
another thing to think about is that once u hit full retirement age none of this matters anymore! at 67 u can earn as much as u want with no penalties. so maybe just wait til then if u can?? that's what my neighbor did with his business
Just wanted to add something that might help with your record-keeping - I use a simple phone app to track my hours in real-time while I'm working. Takes literally 2 seconds to start/stop the timer each day, and at the end of the month I have exact hours worked without having to guess or reconstruct from memory. For income tracking, I also recommend setting up a separate business checking account if you don't already have one. Makes it super easy to track monthly income and expenses when tax time comes around, and SSA loves clean records if they ever audit your monthly earnings. One more tip - consider getting your earnings estimate from SSA.gov before you start collecting. That way you'll know exactly what your monthly benefit will be, which helps with budgeting around the earnings limits. Good luck with your lawn care business!
I appreciate all this information. I think I need to speak directly with SSA to get calculations specific to my situation, and also explore more caregiving options for Mom. The permanent reduction in benefits is making me reconsider if there might be better alternatives.
Have you considered looking into your state's Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) options or any state-specific caregiver support programs? Some states offer paid family leave that could give you time to care for your mom without permanently reducing your work hours. Also, you might want to explore whether your mom could do a "spend down" of her assets to qualify for Medicaid sooner - there are legal ways to restructure assets for Medicaid eligibility that a elder law attorney could help with. This could open up home care services without you having to take the permanent SS reduction. The math everyone's shared here really shows how costly that early retirement penalty can be over your lifetime!
I'm new to this community but going through a similar situation with my own benefit planning. Reading through everyone's responses has been incredibly helpful! It sounds like the key takeaway is that you need to get the exact monthly benefit amounts in writing for both scenarios before making any decision. From what I'm understanding, the $10k retroactive payment might sound attractive upfront, but if it permanently reduces your monthly benefit by even $100-200, that could cost you tens of thousands over your lifetime. At your current survivor benefit of $2,260 and projected retirement benefit of $3,125 at 70, you're already looking at a significant monthly increase - don't let them pressure you into giving up part of that increase for a one-time payment. I'd definitely recommend the in-person appointment suggestion someone mentioned above. Having everything written down and being able to ask follow-up questions face-to-face seems like the best way to avoid any confusion or misunderstandings about such an important financial decision.
Welcome to the community! You've summarized this perfectly - that's exactly the trap I'm trying to avoid. The $10k sounds like a lot upfront, but if I'm losing $100-200+ every month for potentially 20+ years, that's a huge loss over time. I really appreciate how everyone here has shared their experiences and advice. It's so much clearer now that I need to get those exact monthly amounts in writing before making any decision. Thanks for adding your perspective!
I went through this exact decision two years ago and I'm so glad I waited until 70! The SSA agent was very persistent about the retroactive benefits - kept emphasizing the immediate $8,500 I could get. But I did the math and realized it would have cost me about $180/month for life. Here's what helped me make the decision: I asked the agent to mail me a written comparison showing both scenarios - my monthly benefit if I took retroactive vs. waiting until 70. Seeing those numbers on paper made it crystal clear. In my case, I would have broken even at around age 74, but since I planned to live well beyond that (and thankfully am in good health), waiting was the obvious choice. The key is don't let them rush you into a decision during that phone call. Ask for everything in writing, take time to review it, and maybe even bring it to a financial advisor or trusted family member to look over. This is one of the biggest financial decisions you'll make - a few extra days or weeks to think it through is worth it for a choice that affects the rest of your life.
This is such valuable real-world experience, thank you for sharing! Your approach of asking for a written comparison showing both scenarios is brilliant - I'm definitely going to request that. The fact that you would have broken even around age 74 really puts it in perspective. Since I'm also planning for longevity (mom lived to 94), waiting until 70 seems like the smart financial move. I really appreciate the reminder not to let them rush me into a decision during the phone call. This is way too important to decide on the spot!
Giovanni Greco
I'm dealing with a similar situation but with my husband from the UK. One thing I learned that might help - Spain has a really helpful online portal called "Tu Seguridad Social" where your wife can check her contribution history and get estimates of her Spanish pension benefits. This helped us understand what my husband would receive from the UK before we started making decisions about timing. Also, since she's 63 now, she should know that Spain allows early retirement starting at age 63 (with reductions), so she has that flexibility if needed. The key thing we discovered is that taking foreign benefits early doesn't affect your ability to delay US Social Security until age 70 for delayed retirement credits. One more tip - when you do contact the Spanish consulate, ask specifically about the "convenio bilateral" (bilateral agreement) with the US. That's the Spanish term for the totalization agreement and they'll immediately know what you're dealing with.
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Isabella Oliveira
•This is incredibly helpful information! I had no idea Spain had an online portal where she could check her contribution history. We'll definitely look into "Tu Seguridad Social" - having actual numbers would make this whole decision process so much easier. The point about early retirement at 63 with reductions is really important too. We were worried that if she started her Spanish benefits now, it would somehow lock her into taking US benefits early too, but it sounds like we can treat them completely independently. Thank you for the Spanish terminology tip about "convenio bilateral" - that will definitely help when we contact the consulate in Miami. It's so much easier when you know the right words to use!
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James Martinez
I'm in a very similar situation with my parents who moved from Mexico! One thing that really helped us was getting copies of all her Spanish work records before starting any applications. The Spanish system (like Mexico's IMSS) keeps detailed records, but it's much easier to get them while you're actively planning rather than in the middle of an application process. Also, don't overlook that your wife might be eligible for spousal benefits on your US Social Security record if that ends up being higher than her own US benefit calculation. Since she'll likely only have 3-4 years of US credits, her individual US benefit might be quite small, but spousal benefits could be more substantial. One more thing - if you haven't already, check if Spain has any "voluntary contributions" program that might allow her to buy additional credits if it makes sense financially. Some countries allow this for people living abroad, though the math doesn't always work out favorably. The international benefits maze is so confusing, but it sounds like you're asking all the right questions!
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Andre Dupont
•Thank you for mentioning the spousal benefits option! I honestly hadn't thought about that possibility. You're absolutely right that her individual US benefit will probably be quite small with only 3-4 years of credits here. I've been working in the US for over 20 years, so my Social Security benefit should be decent. We'll definitely need to run those numbers when the time comes. The point about getting copies of her Spanish work records beforehand is really smart too. We've been so focused on figuring out the application process that we haven't thought about gathering all the documentation first. Better to have everything ready before we start any applications. I'll look into whether Spain has voluntary contribution options, though like you said, the math might not work out. At this point we're just trying to understand all our options before making any decisions. Thanks for sharing your experience with your parents - it's so helpful hearing from people who've actually been through this process!
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