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Just wanted to add that you should also be prepared for the application process to take some time. When I applied for divorced spouse benefits, it took about 6-8 weeks to process even though I had all the documentation ready. The good news is that if approved, they'll backdate the payments to when you first became eligible. Also, make sure to keep copies of everything you submit - your divorce decree, marriage certificate, and any correspondence with SSA. The system can be slow but you're definitely entitled to these benefits based on what you've described. Good luck with your application!

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This is really helpful to know about the processing time! I was wondering how long it might take. The backdating is great news too - I had no idea they would do that. I'll definitely make copies of everything. Do you remember if they needed your ex-husband's Social Security number for the application, or did they find his record some other way?

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Yes, they definitely needed my ex-husband's Social Security number for the application. I had it from old tax documents, but if you don't have it, they might be able to work with his full name and date of birth, though it could slow things down. They also asked for the exact dates of our marriage and divorce, so having those handy helps speed up the process. The SSA rep told me they use the SSN to pull up his earnings record to verify the PIA amount.

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This is such valuable information for anyone in a similar situation! I'm going through something comparable - I'm 62 and just applied for SSDI after a lengthy battle. My ex and I were married for 18 years before divorcing 4 years ago. Reading through all these responses really helps clarify the process. One thing I'd add is that when you call SSA, try calling first thing in the morning right when they open at 8 AM - I've had better luck getting through then rather than mid-day. Also, if you're having trouble reaching them by phone, some local SSA offices allow walk-ins for certain types of applications, though you'll want to call ahead to confirm. The divorced spouse benefit can really make a significant difference financially, so definitely don't give up if the first person you talk to seems confused about the rules - sometimes it takes speaking with a supervisor or specialist to get accurate information.

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Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! To summarize what I've learned: only my work income counts toward the earnings limit (about $22,300 for 2025), NOT my Social Security benefits. And they use the gross amount before deductions. I really appreciate all the clarification - this makes my retirement planning much easier. I'll be sure to report my expected earnings accurately when I apply next year to avoid any surprises.

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Perfect summary! And remember that once you reach your full retirement age, the earnings limit disappears completely - you can earn any amount without reduction in benefits. Good luck with your retirement planning!

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Just wanted to add one more helpful tip for anyone in a similar situation - keep detailed records of your monthly earnings throughout the year! I learned this the hard way when SSA asked me to verify my income. Having pay stubs organized by month made the process much smoother. Also, if you have any months where you earn significantly more or less (like seasonal work or bonuses), it's worth calling SSA to update your earnings estimate. They're much more understanding if you're proactive about reporting changes rather than them finding out later during their annual review.

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That's excellent advice! I wish I had thought about the record-keeping aspect earlier. Do you recommend any particular way to organize the pay stubs? Like in a spreadsheet with monthly totals or just keeping the physical/digital copies sorted by month? Also, when you say "update your earnings estimate" - is that something you can do online through your my Social Security account or do you have to call? I'm trying to set myself up for success from the beginning rather than scrambling later like it sounds like you had to do.

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One thing I'd add - since you're planning to work until June but start benefits in January, make sure your employer knows about your SS benefits starting. Sometimes HR departments need to adjust payroll withholdings or update their records. Also, you might want to consider whether you'll need to make estimated tax payments since SS benefits can be taxable depending on your total income. With your work income plus SS benefits, you could potentially owe more taxes than what's being withheld. The IRS has worksheets to help calculate if your SS will be taxable - generally if your combined income (AGI + nontaxable interest + half of SS benefits) exceeds $25,000 for single filers or $32,000 for married filing jointly, some portion becomes taxable.

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This is such an important point that I don't think gets mentioned enough! I wish I had known about the tax implications when I started collecting SS while still working. My first year was a real surprise at tax time. The combined income threshold caught me off guard - I ended up owing way more than I expected because I hadn't adjusted my withholdings or made estimated payments. Definitely worth running the numbers or talking to a tax professional before you start benefits, especially if you're in a higher tax bracket from your work income.

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As someone who just went through this process last year, I can confirm the online application is definitely the way to go! A few additional tips based on my experience: 1) Make sure you print or save a copy of your completed application confirmation - the SSA system sometimes has glitches and having your confirmation number is crucial if you need to follow up. 2) Don't be surprised if they ask for additional documentation even after you submit everything online. I had to upload a copy of my marriage certificate even though I included all the dates in the original application. 3) Consider setting up direct deposit to a checking account rather than savings - some banks charge fees for government deposits to savings accounts. The whole process took about 6 weeks from application to first payment, so applying in October/November for January benefits should give you plenty of buffer time. Good luck!

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I'm really sorry for your loss. This is such a complex situation, but I'm glad you're thinking ahead and planning for your future. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you might want to consider reaching out to a Social Security disability attorney or elder law attorney who has experience with international cases. Many offer free consultations and can help you understand the nuances of claiming benefits while living abroad. They often have established relationships with FBUs and know exactly what documentation you'll need. Also, since you mentioned your children are all adults and US citizens, they might be able to help you navigate some of the US-based requirements if needed. Sometimes having someone stateside who can make calls during business hours or pick up documents can be really helpful. The fact that you have 5 years to prepare is actually a blessing in disguise - most people don't have that luxury of time to get everything organized properly. You're being really smart about starting this research now rather than scrambling when you turn 60. One last thought - if your home country has a US embassy with an FBU, they might also offer informational seminars or workshops about Social Security benefits for Americans abroad. It could be worth checking their website or calling to see if they have any scheduled events that might be helpful.

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These are all excellent suggestions! I hadn't thought about consulting with a Social Security attorney who has international experience - that could be really valuable for understanding all the nuances I might miss on my own. You're absolutely right that having my children stateside could be helpful, especially for handling any paperwork or making calls during US business hours. I'll ask them if they'd be willing to help when the time comes. I'm also going to check the US embassy website to see if they offer any seminars about benefits for Americans abroad - that's a great idea I wouldn't have thought of. Thank you for reinforcing that starting early is smart rather than something to worry about. With everyone's advice here, I feel like I have a really comprehensive roadmap for the next 5 years!

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I'm really sorry for your loss. This thread has been incredibly informative - it's amazing how much helpful information everyone has shared! One additional resource I wanted to mention is the Social Security Administration's "Your Payments While You Are Outside The United States" publication (SSA Publication No. 05-10137). It has detailed information about receiving benefits while living abroad and covers many of the issues that have been discussed here like totalization agreements and payment restrictions by country. You can find it on the SSA website or ask the FBU to provide you with a copy when you meet with them. It's written specifically for people in your situation and might answer some questions you haven't even thought to ask yet. Also, since you're planning 5 years ahead, you might want to set a reminder to check back on any rule changes annually. Social Security rules can change, and international payment policies sometimes get updated. The FBU can help you stay informed about any changes that might affect your situation. Your methodical approach to planning this out is really admirable - your future self will definitely thank you for being so thorough now!

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Thank you so much for mentioning that SSA publication! I just looked it up and it looks like exactly what I need to read through carefully. Having a comprehensive official resource that covers international payments and all these complex rules will be really helpful as I prepare for my FBU appointment. I love the suggestion about setting annual reminders to check for rule changes - that's so practical and something I definitely wouldn't have thought of on my own. You're right that 5 years is a long time and policies could definitely change. I'm going to add "check for SSA rule updates" to my calendar every January. This entire thread has been such a goldmine of information - I went from feeling completely lost to having a clear action plan. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge and experiences!

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Fantastic outcome! This is such a great example of why it's worth asking HR about these timing issues. Many people don't realize they can often request changes to payout dates for exactly these reasons. Your story will definitely help others in similar situations. Enjoy your well-deserved retirement and congratulations on getting this sorted out before it became a problem!

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm new here but facing a similar situation with my retirement planning. It's amazing how these seemingly small timing details can have such big impacts on Social Security benefits. Really appreciate everyone sharing their knowledge and experiences - it makes navigating these complex rules so much easier when you have a supportive community like this!

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Welcome to the community, Jamal! You're absolutely right about how these timing details can make such a huge difference. I've learned so much from threads like this one too. If you're facing a similar PTO payout situation, definitely start the conversation with your HR department early - as Dmitry found out, they often can accommodate these requests but need advance notice. The key thing to remember is that Social Security counts income when you receive it, not when you earned it. Feel free to ask questions here - this community has been incredibly helpful for navigating all the complexities of Social Security and retirement planning!

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