Social Security Disability and Divorced Spouse Benefits - How much will I get at 64?
I just got approved for SSDI at 64 (finally!) and will receive $1,120 monthly. My situation is a bit complicated - I was married for 32 years but have been divorced for 6 years now and haven't remarried. My ex-husband started collecting his Social Security at 62. The last time I saw his SS statement about 6 years ago, his Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) was $3,008. I'm really confused about whether I qualify for additional divorced spouse benefits and how they would be calculated based on his higher amount. Can someone help me understand how much I might receive in spousal benefits on top of my SSDI? Will I get half of his PIA or some reduced amount since he claimed early? Everything I read online seems contradictory.
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Darcy Moore
Congrats on finally getting your disability! I've been through this too and it's such a relief. I think you can get extra money from your ex but I'm not sure how much exactly. Don't they reduce it if he took his benefits early? Someone else probably knows better than me.
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Edward McBride
•Thank you! Yes it took almost 14 months to get approved, so I'm relieved but now confused about this spousal benefit part. I've heard conflicting things about whether his early claiming affects what I can get.
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Dana Doyle
As a divorced spouse, you can claim benefits on your ex-husband's record if your marriage lasted at least 10 years (which yours did at 32 years). Since you're receiving your own SSDI, you'll get the higher of either your own benefit or the divorced spouse benefit, not both added together. Since your ex-husband's PIA was $3,008, your maximum spousal benefit would be 50% of that, or $1,504. Since that's higher than your $1,120 SSDI, you should receive an additional amount to bring your total to $1,504. Importantly, the fact that your ex claimed early at 62 does NOT affect your divorced spousal benefit. Your benefit is based on his full PIA, not his reduced amount. You should contact SSA directly to apply for the divorced spouse benefit, as it's not automatic.
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Edward McBride
•Thank you so much for explaining this! So I'd get an additional $384 on top of my SSDI to reach the $1,504? That would make such a difference monthly. I'll definitely contact SSA to apply for this.
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Liam Duke
Are you SURE about this?? I thought if the ex-husband filed early, it DOES affect what the divorced spouse gets!!! My sister got less because her ex took benefits at 62 and she got penalized for HIS decision which is SO UNFAIR!!! This system is impossible to understand and they keep changing the rules!!!
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Manny Lark
•The divorced spouse benefit is based on the ex's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is what they would receive at their full retirement age, regardless of when they actually filed. Your sister's situation might have involved other factors or perhaps she didn't receive accurate information. The SSA representatives sometimes give inconsistent answers, unfortunately.
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Manny Lark
When I was trying to figure out my own benefits with my ex, I was getting nowhere with the regular SSA phone line. Busy signals, disconnects, or 3+ hour wait times. I finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) and got through to a rep in 20 minutes instead of waiting for hours. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The rep I spoke with was really helpful explaining the divorced spouse benefits calculation. Turns out I was eligible for way more than I thought, similar to your situation.
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Rita Jacobs
•never heard of this thing before does it actually work?? i tried calling ssa for 3 days straight last month and couldnt get anyone to pick up
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Khalid Howes
My neighbor went thru this exact thing last yr. She got disability at 63 and was divorced. She said the most confusing part was that they don't automatically give u both benefits. She had to specifically apply for the divorced spouse part separately even tho she was already getting disability. They didn't tell her this until she questioned why her payment was lower than expected. Just a heads up so u don't miss out on money ur entitled to.
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Edward McBride
•Thank you for mentioning this! I wouldn't have known to specifically apply for the divorced spouse benefits separately. Do you know if your neighbor had to provide her ex's information or did SSA already have that on file?
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Ben Cooper
To clarify some confusion in this thread: 1. As a disability recipient transitioning to retirement, you should receive what's called a "dual entitlement" - your own SSDI benefit plus a supplement to reach the divorced spouse amount (if higher). 2. Your dual entitlement should be calculated as follows: - Your SSDI benefit: $1,120 - Divorced spouse benefit (50% of ex's $3,008 PIA): $1,504 - Supplement amount: $384 ($1,504 - $1,120) - Total benefit: $1,504 3. The fact that your ex claimed at 62 does NOT affect your divorced spouse benefit. 4. However, since you're claiming before your FRA (66 and some months), there would normally be a reduction to the spousal portion. But since you're on SSDI, you're typically exempt from this reduction. I recommend scheduling an appointment with SSA specifically to apply for divorced spouse benefits. Bring your divorce decree and have your ex's SSN handy if possible.
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Edward McBride
•Thank you for this detailed breakdown! I'll make an appointment right away. Do you know if there's a specific form I need to fill out for the divorced spouse benefit application?
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Dana Doyle
One more important thing: when you turn 66 and reach your Full Retirement Age, your SSDI will automatically convert to regular Social Security retirement benefits, but the amount stays the same. The divorced spouse supplement should continue. Just be aware of this transition so you don't panic when you see the benefit type change in your notices.
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Darcy Moore
•This happened to my uncle and he freaked out thinking they were cutting his benefits! The letter from SSA didn't explain it well at all.
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Rita Jacobs
wait a minute i thought disability was more than reglar retirement why would her ssdi convert to retirement at 66??? that dosent make sense wouldnt she get less money???
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Ben Cooper
•SSDI and retirement benefits are calculated using the same formula - your lifetime earnings record. The difference is that SSDI can be claimed before retirement age if you become disabled. When you reach full retirement age, SSDI converts to retirement benefits, but the amount stays exactly the same. It's just an administrative change in how SSA categorizes the benefit, not a reduction in payment.
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Liam Duke
What nobody has mentioned yet is that you should check whether your ex's PIA of $3,008 has increased since you last saw it 6 years ago! The SSA applies Cost of Living Adjustments (COLAs) every year, so his PIA is likely higher now, which means your potential spousal benefit would be higher too. Ask about the CURRENT PIA when you talk to them!
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Edward McBride
•That's a great point! I hadn't considered COLAs would increase his PIA. If his current PIA is higher, then my 50% would be higher too. Thanks for mentioning this!
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