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I'm in a bit of a predicament with my part-time job and Social Security early retirement benefits. My workplace is desperately short-staffed, and I just got a nice hourly wage bump (wasn't expecting that!). I'm well under the annual earnings limit for 2024, but if I pick up just 2-3 extra shifts each month, it would push me over the $1,860 monthly limit. My Full Retirement Age is June 2025, so I'm getting close. Three questions keeping me up at night: 1. If I exceed the $1,860 in some months but stay under the annual limit, will SSA still hit me with the penalty for those months? Or do they only care about the yearly total? 2. For 2025, since I reach FRA mid-year, do different earnings limits apply to me for January-May compared to after June? How does that work exactly? 3. Has SSA announced the 2025 earnings limits yet? I'm trying to plan ahead. I get that earning more now could increase my benefit calculation, and I'd eventually get back any withheld benefits... but HOW exactly does that recalculation work, and WHEN would I see those returned benefits? Trying to make smart choices here but the rules are so confusing! Anyone dealt with this situation before?
I'm trying to figure out the best strategy for my husband and me with our Social Security benefits. I'll turn 66 and 6 months (my FRA) next year, while my husband is 62 right now. My benefit at FRA will be around $1,850 monthly, but my husband's benefit at his FRA (67) would be about $2,800. I know I might qualify for a spousal benefit that would top-off my own benefit since his is substantially higher. My question is: Can I go ahead and start collecting my own retirement benefit when I reach my FRA next year, then later when my husband starts collecting at his FRA (in about 5 years), can I still apply for the spousal top-up amount at that time? Or do I need to wait to start ANY benefits until he files for his in order to be eligible for the spousal supplement? I've tried reading the SSA website but keep getting confused by all the different rules. Would really appreciate if anyone has been through this situation or understands how this works! Thanks in advance!
To summarize the correct information in this thread: 1. Yes, you can claim your own retirement benefits at your FRA, then later apply for the spousal benefit when your husband files. 2. The spousal benefit calculation is the greater of: your own benefit OR up to 50% of your husband's PIA (not his actual benefit amount). 3. If 50% of your husband's PIA is more than your own benefit, you'll receive your own benefit plus the difference (the "excess spousal benefit" or "top-up"). 4. Given your numbers ($1,850 for you, $2,800 PIA for him), you likely won't receive a spousal top-up since your benefit ($1,850) exceeds 50% of his PIA ($1,400). 5. When your husband files, contact SSA to verify if you qualify for any spousal adjustment. This isn't always automatic.
Thank you for this clear summary! Based on the information everyone has provided, it seems my best strategy is to take my own benefit at FRA, and have my husband delay his as long as possible to maximize his monthly amount (which will also maximize any potential survivor benefit down the road). I appreciate everyone's help!
Just want to add one important point that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your husband passes away before you, having him delay his benefits until age 70 (if possible) could significantly increase your survivor benefit. As the surviving spouse, you'd be eligible for 100% of his benefit amount (including any delayed retirement credits he earned by waiting past his FRA). So even though you likely won't get a spousal top-up based on your numbers, the strategy of you taking your benefit at FRA while he delays his could still pay off in the long run through a higher potential survivor benefit. Something to factor into your decision!
I'm turning 63 next month and thinking about claiming SS retirement benefits early. I know there's a reduction for claiming before my full retirement age (67 for me), but I'm confused about how working affects my benefits. If I keep my part-time job and earn more than $1950 a month, how exactly does SSA reduce my benefits? Do they take a dollar for every dollar I earn over that amount? Or is it some percentage? And do I have to pay that money back, or do they just withhold some checks? The SSA website is so confusing and the phone lines are always busy when I try to call for clarification.
my dad just goes over the limit anyway cuz he says the extra money from working more than makes up for the lost SS $$$. he says do the math for your situation.
One thing that helped me understand this better was realizing that SSA looks at your ANNUAL earnings, not monthly fluctuations. So if you have seasonal work like I do (landscaping), some months I might earn $3,000 and others only $500. What matters is staying under that $23,400 annual limit. I keep a running total throughout the year and adjust my hours in November/December if I'm getting close to the limit. Also, make sure you understand what counts as "earnings" - W-2 wages and self-employment income count, but things like rental income, dividends, or pension payments don't affect the earnings test at all.
My brother-in-law (64) applied for Social Security Disability in June 2025 after his medical condition made it impossible to continue his construction job. It's been almost three months, and he's getting desperate for income. He's talking about physically going to the SSA office next week to beg for an update on his case. He's also considering just applying for early retirement benefits because he's running out of savings. I'm trying to help him understand the pros and cons, but I'm confused about several things: - What's the typical timeline for SSDI decisions these days? (I've heard horror stories about 1-2 year waits) - If he gets approved for disability, would he receive back payments to June when he first applied? - Would his disability benefit amount be the same as what he'd get at his full retirement age (67)? - If he gives up on disability and takes early retirement now, he'd get reduced benefits forever, right? And no back pay? He's really struggling financially and emotionally with this uncertainty. Any insights from those who've been through this process would be so appreciated!
Something else to consider: Since your brother-in-law is 64, if his SSDI application is still pending when he reaches full retirement age (which is likely 66 and some months for someone his age), the application essentially becomes moot. At FRA, he would automatically get his full retirement benefit regardless. So worst case, if his SSDI claim takes a very long time or is denied, he's only looking at 2+ years of reduced benefits if he switches to early retirement now. That said, the backpay from SSDI could still be substantial if he's approved, so waiting is generally the better financial choice if possible.
I'm going through a similar situation with my father right now, so I really feel for your brother-in-law. One thing that helped us was creating a detailed timeline of his work history and medical treatments to submit as additional evidence. Also, has he considered reaching out to a disability attorney? Many work on contingency (they only get paid if he wins), and they often know exactly what documentation SSA needs to see. Sometimes having professional representation can make a difference in how quickly cases are processed. In the meantime, you might want to help him look into local food banks, utility assistance programs, or other community resources to help stretch his savings while he waits. The waiting period is genuinely one of the hardest parts of this whole process.
My wife was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer last month. Doctors are saying she has about 8-10 months left. She's turning 65 in February and has been working at the same company for 32 years. She's planning to use up her 6 weeks of accumulated leave next month before officially retiring. Several family members keep insisting she should apply for Social Security disability instead of regular retirement benefits. Is there any actual advantage to going the SSDI route versus just taking her retirement benefits given her diagnosis? She worked her entire adult life and has more than enough credits. Just trying to make the right decision during this awful time. Any insights from folks who've been through something similar would be appreciated.
DONT forget to ask about survivors benefits for YOU after she passes!!! My neighbor got widower benefits after his wife died from cancer and it really helped him!!! The SSA doesn't always tell you everything you're eligible for unless you ASK SPECIFICALLY!!!
This is excellent advice. Survivor benefits can provide 100% of the deceased spouse's benefit amount if the surviving spouse is at full retirement age. If the surviving spouse is younger, the benefit ranges from 71.5% to 99% depending on exact age. Additionally, there's a one-time death benefit of $255 that can be applied for. These benefits need to be applied for separately as they're not automatic.
I'm so sorry to hear about your wife's diagnosis. This is such a difficult situation, and you're being incredibly thoughtful to research all the options during this challenging time. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like SSDI could provide meaningful financial advantages - potentially $200+ more per month if she's below her full retirement age. With pancreatic cancer being on the Compassionate Allowance list, the approval process should be much faster than typical disability cases. One practical tip: when gathering medical documentation, make sure her oncologist's records explicitly state "pancreatic cancer" and include the terminal prognosis. Sometimes medical records use technical terms or codes that might not trigger the automated Compassionate Allowance screening as quickly. Also, consider having someone help you with the application process if possible - whether it's a family member, friend, or even a disability advocate. During such an emotionally draining time, having support with paperwork can be invaluable. Whatever you decide, you're clearly doing everything you can to ensure your wife is taken care of. That speaks volumes about your character during what must be an incredibly painful time.
Sean Matthews
just be careful with the grace year thing. my uncle thought he had that but turns out he already used it the year before when he briefly went back to work. they don't tell you when you've used it up unless you specifically ask!!
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Great to see you got confirmation from SSA! That grace year provision is such a lifesaver but you're right that it's not well-publicized. One thing to keep in mind - since you'll have those higher earning months in 2024, make sure to keep good records of your monthly earnings. Even though you're covered by the grace year, it's helpful to have documentation ready in case there are any questions later. Also, for 2025 planning - once those new limits are announced in October, you might want to calculate backwards from your June FRA date to see exactly how much you can safely earn in those first 5 months. Since you mentioned getting a wage bump and potential extra shifts, having that target number will help you maximize your earnings without any surprises. The fact that you'll have zero limits starting in June 2025 is going to be such a game changer for your work flexibility!
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