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Don't forget that if she buys a home and has money LEFT OVER after the purchase, that excess will count toward her $2000 resource limit!! Also, if the stocks are worth a lot, she might still go over the limit even with the home purchase. The SSI program is designed to TRAP people in poverty!
That's true about leftover funds, but there are other excluded resources she could consider for any excess, like burial funds (up to $1,500), home improvements, or even ABLE accounts depending on when her disability began. She should definitely discuss all options with a benefits counselor before making any decisions.
This is really helpful additional information! I didn't know about ABLE accounts - is there an age or disability onset requirement for those? Also, for the burial funds exclusion, does that have to be in a separate dedicated account or can it just be designated funds in her regular account? We want to make sure she has all her options mapped out before she starts the home buying process.
I'm really sorry for your loss, and I can see how overwhelming this whole process must be. The community has given you excellent advice here - you're definitely on the right track focusing on survivor benefits for your grandson rather than CIC benefits. One thing I wanted to add that might help you prepare for your call tomorrow: when you speak with SSA, be very clear that you're applying for SURVIVOR BENEFITS for a minor child whose parent is deceased, and that you are the child's legal guardian. Sometimes using the exact terminology helps get you transferred to the right department faster. Also, if the first representative seems confused or gives you conflicting information, don't hesitate to politely end the call and try again with someone else. Unfortunately, not all SSA reps are equally knowledgeable about all benefit types, and you want to make sure you're getting accurate information given the time-sensitive nature of the retroactive payments. Keep us updated on how it goes - this community is really helpful for navigating these complicated situations, and your experience might help other grandparents in similar circumstances!
Thank you so much for the terminology tip - that's really practical advice! I'll make sure to use those exact words when I call. You're absolutely right about being prepared to try multiple representatives if needed. I've learned so much from everyone here in just one day compared to months of trying to figure this out on my own. I'll definitely update the community on how the call goes tomorrow. Hopefully my experience can help other grandparents who find themselves in similar situations navigating this complex system.
I'm so sorry for the loss of your daughter and can completely understand how frustrating the SSA phone system can be when you're already dealing with so much. Everyone here has given you excellent guidance - CIC benefits definitely don't apply to your situation since those are specifically for spouses. What you really need to focus on is getting those survivor benefits for your grandson started ASAP. One small tip that might help when you call: if you're getting disconnected frequently, try calling right when they open (8 AM local time) or during lunch hours when call volume might be slightly lower. Also, once you get connected, ask the representative for a direct callback number in case you get disconnected - sometimes they can provide one. The fact that you're his legal guardian puts you in a good position to handle this application. Just make sure you emphasize that this is for CHILD SURVIVOR BENEFITS and that there's urgency due to the retroactive payment limits. You've got all the right information now thanks to this community - you're going to get through this! Please do update us on how it goes. Sending you and your grandson my best wishes during this difficult time.
I'm a newcomer here but have been dealing with similar Social Security questions for my disabled brother. One thing I learned that might help is to also check if your daughter qualifies for any state disability services that could provide respite care or day programs. This could potentially allow you to work longer and build up your own Social Security earnings record, which might end up being more valuable than divorced spousal benefits. Also, since you mentioned planning ahead for potential remarriage, you might want to consult with a Social Security advisor or elder law attorney who can run scenarios based on your specific earnings history and your ex-husband's benefit amount. They can help you understand the exact timing and financial implications of different choices. The rules around divorced spousal benefits, surviving divorced spouse benefits, and remarriage timing are complex enough that professional guidance could save you from making costly mistakes.
Welcome to the community! Your advice about seeking professional guidance is spot on - these Social Security rules can be really tricky to navigate alone. I'm also new here but have been researching similar issues for my family. One additional resource I found helpful is the AARP Social Security calculator that lets you compare different claiming strategies side by side. It's free and can show you scenarios like divorced spousal benefits vs your own benefits at different ages. Also, regarding state disability services, many states have what's called a "no wrong door" system where you can call one number and they'll connect you to all the different programs you might qualify for - both for your daughter and potentially for yourself as a caregiver. It's worth asking about respite services specifically, since those could really help with the work-life balance while you're still building up your earnings record.
I'm new to this community but facing a very similar situation with my disabled adult son. One thing I discovered that might be helpful is to also look into whether your daughter might be eligible for ABLE accounts (Achieving a Better Life Experience). These special savings accounts allow people with disabilities to save money without affecting their SSI or Medicaid eligibility, and family members can contribute up to $17,000 annually (as of 2023). While this doesn't directly address your caregiver situation, it could help with long-term financial planning for your daughter's care. Also, since you mentioned you're 63 and still working, you might want to consider that if you can delay your own Social Security until age 70, your benefit could be significantly higher than divorced spousal benefits - but definitely run the numbers first! The National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys (NAELA) has a directory where you can find attorneys who specialize in Social Security and disability planning if you want professional guidance on timing these decisions.
Welcome to the community! That's a great point about ABLE accounts - I hadn't heard of those before. The ability to save $17,000 annually without affecting other benefits sounds really valuable for long-term planning. I'll definitely look into whether my daughter qualifies for one of those accounts. Your advice about potentially waiting until 70 for my own benefits is making me think I should really crunch those numbers carefully. The difference between divorced spousal benefits and my own maximized benefit could be substantial if I can manage to keep working a few more years. Thanks for mentioning NAELA too - having professional guidance on the timing of all these decisions seems really important given how much money could be at stake!
Just to update everyone on the timeline: once you submit the new W-4V form, it typically takes the SSA about 4-6 weeks to process the change. The new withholding rate will apply to payments after processing is complete. If you're concerned about owing taxes for 2025, you could also make quarterly estimated tax payments directly to the IRS to supplement your withholding until the new rate kicks in.
I submitted my new W-4V form requesting 12% withholding yesterday via certified mail. Thanks everyone for your help! I'll keep an eye on my deposits to see when the new rate takes effect. Really wish the SSA would make this information more accessible online - seems like a simple thing they could add to our accounts.
Good call on the certified mail! I always recommend that for important SSA documents. You might also want to keep a copy of the form and the certified mail receipt for your records. If the processing takes longer than expected, you'll have proof of when you submitted it. The quarterly estimated payment option is also smart if you're really worried about owing too much - better safe than sorry when it comes to taxes!
One thing to keep in mind - if you're making the change this late in the year, you might want to calculate how much extra withholding you'll actually get for 2025. Since it takes 4-6 weeks to process and we're already in late March, you'll only have about 8-9 months of the higher withholding rate. If you're significantly under-withheld, you might still want to make a quarterly estimated payment for Q2 to avoid underpayment penalties. The IRS generally wants you to pay 90% of your current year tax liability or 100% of last year's (110% if your prior year AGI was over $150k) to avoid penalties.
That's a really important point about the timing! I hadn't thought about how starting the change in late March would affect the total withholding for the year. Since I was only at 7% and switching to 12%, that extra 5% over 8-9 months might not be enough to cover what I'll owe. I should probably look into making a Q2 estimated payment just to be safe. Do you know if there's a penalty for underpaying if it's your first year receiving Social Security benefits, or does the IRS treat new retirees any differently?
Liam Sullivan
Thank you all so much for the helpful information! I've learned so much from this discussion. Based on everything shared, I think I'm going to: 1. Schedule an appointment with SSA to get exact benefit calculations for different scenarios 2. Consider that my ex won't even be eligible to file for 7+ years (when he's 62+) 3. Remember that remarriage would eliminate spousal benefits but not survivor benefits 4. Factor in the WEP/GPO phase-out timeline for my pension The timing elements are particularly important - I hadn't fully considered the age gap between me and my ex. Even if I stay single, I can't get spousal benefits until he files, which is years away. It's a lot to consider, but I feel much better informed now. I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and knowledge!
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Sofia Perez
Great summary of your action plan! One additional tip - when you call SSA, ask them to run calculations for both your own benefit record AND what spousal benefits would look like on your ex's record (using his current earnings). They can give you estimates even though he hasn't filed yet. This will help you see the actual dollar difference between staying single for spousal benefits vs. remarrying. Also, since you mentioned your ex has health issues, you might want to ask about survivor benefit amounts too - that could be significantly higher than spousal benefits and would be available regardless of your marital status (since you're already over 60). The WEP/GPO phase-out is definitely real - I work in benefits administration and we're already preparing for the 2025 changes. For someone with a $2,600 teacher's pension, you'll see meaningful increases in your Social Security benefits over the next few years. Good luck with your decision!
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Jade Lopez
•This is such great advice! I'm new to navigating Social Security but going through a similar situation. @Sofia Perez - when you mention asking SSA to run calculations using current earnings, do they actually have access to see what someone s'projected benefit would be even if they haven t'filed yet? I m'wondering if they can estimate based on his current $160k salary or if they d'need his complete earnings history. Also, is there a specific form or process for requesting these multiple scenario calculations, or do you just explain your situation when you call?
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