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Mia Roberts

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I'm sorry for your loss, Grace. Your mom is absolutely entitled to divorced widow's benefits in this situation. The key requirements she meets are: • Marriage lasted 25+ years (well over the 10-year minimum) • She's over 60 and hasn't remarried before age 60 • Your dad's remarriage doesn't affect her eligibility at all At 62, she'll receive about 71.5% of his full benefit amount. Since her work history is limited, this will likely be much more than any retirement benefit on her own record. My suggestion: Don't wait. Call SSA immediately to schedule an appointment (phone or in-person). Benefits can be retroactive to the month of his death, but only if she applies. Documents to gather first: - Marriage certificate - Divorce decree - His death certificate - Her birth certificate - Her Social Security card The phone system is frustrating, but this is absolutely worth pursuing. Your mom contributed to his Social Security earnings during their 25-year marriage - these benefits are rightfully hers regardless of his later remarriage. Both she and his current widow can receive benefits simultaneously without reducing each other's amounts.

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Thank you so much, Mia! This is exactly the kind of clear, actionable advice we needed. It's really helpful to see the requirements laid out so clearly - it confirms what others have said but in a way that's easy to understand and reference. I'm definitely convinced now that we shouldn't wait to get this process started. Mom has been hesitant because she wasn't sure if she was "entitled" to anything since they were divorced, but seeing multiple people explain that she contributed to his earnings during those 25 years really puts it in perspective. We're going to spend this weekend gathering all those documents you listed, then start calling SSA on Monday. The retroactive benefit to the month of his death is a big motivator to not delay this any further. Really appreciate you taking the time to break this down so thoroughly - it means a lot during this difficult time.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Grace. Your situation is actually pretty straightforward - your mom absolutely qualifies for divorced widow's benefits! The fact that she was married to your dad for 25 years (way more than the required 10), is over 60, and never remarried means she meets all the criteria. His remarriage doesn't impact her eligibility whatsoever - it's a common misconception that it would. A few practical tips from someone who's helped family members through this: 1. Call SSA first thing in the morning (around 8 AM) for shorter wait times 2. Have her Social Security number ready when you call 3. Be prepared for the agent to schedule a phone interview rather than handling everything on the first call 4. If you get disconnected, don't give up - keep calling back Also, make sure to ask about filing for both survivor benefits AND checking what her own retirement benefit might be. Sometimes there are strategic timing considerations, though given her limited work history, the survivor benefit is probably the better option. The process can be frustrating, but your mom earned these benefits through 25 years of marriage. Don't let bureaucratic hurdles discourage you from pursuing what she's entitled to. Hang in there!

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NeonNova

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i got so confused by all the conflicting advice that i just went to my local ss office and had them explain everything. took half a day but worth it. way better than trying to figure it out online.

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Just wanted to add my experience since I was in almost the exact same situation last year. I retired at 65 (my FRA) and was totally confused about whether to start benefits immediately or wait. After talking to a financial planner and doing my own research, I learned that the key thing is understanding that your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) is already locked in based on your work history - it doesn't change whether you're working or not. What DOES change is the delayed retirement credits if you wait past FRA. I ended up starting benefits at FRA because I wanted the peace of mind of getting something rather than gambling on living long enough to make waiting worthwhile. But if you're healthy and have good longevity in your family, those 8% annual increases until age 70 are pretty attractive. The main thing is that you're NOT losing money by delaying just because you stopped working. The SSA website language is confusing but the delayed credits are real regardless of your employment status.

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Amina Bah

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I understand how scary this situation is - facing potential loss of your home while trying to navigate complex disability rules. Here are some additional options to consider beyond just working: 1. **Housing assistance programs**: Contact your local housing authority about emergency rental/mortgage assistance, especially programs for disabled individuals. Many areas have specific programs for people at risk of foreclosure. 2. **Utility assistance**: If you're behind on utilities too, programs like LIHEAP can help free up money for your mortgage. 3. **Food assistance**: Maximizing SNAP benefits and using food banks can free up more of your SSDI for housing costs. 4. **Disability advocacy organizations**: They often know about local emergency assistance funds specifically for people with disabilities facing housing crises. 5. **Credit counseling**: Non-profit housing counselors can sometimes negotiate with mortgage companies for modified payment plans or forbearance. The roommate suggestion is also excellent - rental income typically doesn't affect SSDI benefits as long as it's not considered "work activity." If you do decide to work, definitely get that WIPA counseling first. But explore these other options too - sometimes there are resources available that people don't know about.

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you so much for taking the time to list all these options! I honestly hadn't thought about most of these resources. I'm definitely going to look into housing assistance programs in my area first, and the credit counseling sounds like something I should do regardless. It's good to know that rental income from a roommate wouldn't count as work activity. I feel like I have some actual steps to take now instead of just panicking about losing everything. Really appreciate everyone's advice in this thread.

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Omar Zaki

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I'm new to this community and this situation hits close to home for me. I've been on SSDI for about 3 years now and have been too scared to even consider working because of all the conflicting information out there. Reading through everyone's responses here has been really eye-opening - especially learning that the Trial Work Period is actually designed to HELP us test our ability to work, not punish us for trying. @Amina Bah your list of housing assistance resources is amazing. I had no idea there were specific programs for disabled individuals facing housing crises. One thing I wanted to add - I recently discovered that some states have "Work Incentives Planning and Assistance" (WIPA) programs that will actually do a personalized benefits analysis for free. They can run scenarios showing exactly how different income levels would affect your specific situation. Might be worth looking into for your area, @Yara Nassar. Also, for anyone else reading this who's in a similar situation: the National Disability Rights Network website has a directory of local disability advocacy organizations that might know about emergency assistance funds in your area. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences - this is exactly the kind of practical advice people need when dealing with these complex systems.

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Aaron Boston

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Just wanted to add one clarification that might help with your planning - when you're thinking about survivor benefits, keep in mind that if your husband delays claiming past his FRA (say until age 70), his benefit will grow by about 8% per year due to delayed retirement credits. If he passes away after that, your survivor benefit would be based on that higher amount, not just his original PIA. So his claiming strategy can significantly impact your potential survivor benefits down the road. Also, regarding the earnings test - it's worth noting that even if you claim benefits before your FRA and have earnings that reduce your monthly payments, those "withheld" benefits aren't lost forever. SSA will recalculate your benefit at FRA to give you credit for those months when benefits were reduced due to earnings. But once you hit FRA, it's a clean slate - work as much as you want with zero impact on benefits!

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This is such an important point about delayed retirement credits! I hadn't thought about how his decision to delay claiming could affect my potential survivor benefits. So if he waits until 70 to claim and gets those 8% annual increases, and then passes away years later, my survivor benefit would be based on that higher amount he was receiving? That could make a huge difference in planning. Also really good to know that any benefits withheld due to earnings before FRA aren't actually lost - I was worried about that. Thank you for these details!

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AstroAce

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This is such a helpful discussion! As someone who's been navigating these same questions with my spouse, I wanted to add one more consideration that might be useful. If you're planning to continue working after your FRA, don't forget that your continued earnings could potentially increase your own Social Security benefit calculation if those later years represent some of your highest earning years. SSA recalculates your benefit annually if you have earnings that would increase your average, which could boost either your retirement benefit or the baseline for spousal benefit comparisons. Also, I learned from my financial planner that it's worth running the numbers on different claiming strategies - sometimes it makes sense for the higher earner to delay claiming to maximize both the current spousal benefit and future survivor benefits, while the lower earner might claim earlier. The "file and suspend" strategy is no longer available, but there are still ways to optimize timing between spouses. Definitely worth getting a personalized analysis of your specific situation!

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This is really valuable information! I hadn't considered that continuing to work after FRA could actually increase my own Social Security benefit if those are high-earning years. That's another good reason to keep working if I enjoy it. The point about getting a personalized analysis is well taken too - it sounds like there are so many variables between timing, earnings, and spousal coordination that it's worth having someone run the specific numbers for our situation. Do you happen to know if SSA provides that kind of detailed analysis, or is that something you'd typically need to get from a financial planner?

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Sophia Russo

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That's fantastic news! So glad the Claimyr service worked for you and you finally got connected to someone who understood CIC benefits. It's amazing how much of a difference it makes when you reach the right person who actually knows the rules. Your list of documents looks perfect - sounds like the Technical Expert really knew what she was talking about. The fact that she scheduled you for an in-person appointment is also a great sign since those tend to go much smoother for complex cases like yours. Thanks for sharing the update! This whole thread will be really helpful for other parents dealing with similar situations. Looking forward to hearing how your appointment goes next week. Fingers crossed everything gets processed smoothly from here!

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This is such great news! It's really encouraging to see that persistence pays off with SSA cases like this. I'm dealing with a similar situation with my disabled brother and have been dreading the whole process after hearing so many horror stories. Your experience gives me hope that there are actually knowledgeable people at SSA - you just have to know how to get to them. Definitely bookmarking this thread for when I need to apply. Hope your appointment goes perfectly!

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Congratulations on finally getting through to someone knowledgeable! This is exactly why I always tell people dealing with complex SSA issues to keep pushing until they reach a specialist. Regular claims reps just aren't trained on the nuances of benefits like CIC for disabled adult children. Your persistence really paid off, and I'm sure this thread will help so many other parents in similar situations. The step-by-step documentation you've shared here is invaluable - from asking for Technical Experts to citing the specific Social Security Act section numbers. One small tip for your in-person appointment: bring copies of everything rather than originals when possible, since SSA sometimes needs to keep documents for their files. Also, don't be surprised if the process takes a few weeks to complete even after your appointment - CIC benefits can involve multiple reviews. Really hoping everything goes smoothly for you next week! Please do update us on how it turns out.

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