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I'm so sorry for your loss and the additional stress this bureaucratic delay is causing you during an already difficult time. As a newcomer to this community, I've been reading through everyone's helpful advice and wanted to add a few thoughts. You're absolutely right to pursue this - your husband's estate is entitled to that March payment since he was alive for the entire month. The fact that you're now at 6+ months is definitely beyond the normal 4-6 month processing time everyone mentions. Based on what I've read here, I'd suggest trying a multi-pronged approach: First, call early morning (8am) with those specific questions others outlined about alerts, holds, and fund confirmation status. Second, if that doesn't yield results, definitely consider reaching out to your congressional representative's office - they can often cut through bureaucratic delays much faster than individual calls. One thing I noticed from similar posts is that sometimes these claims get stuck on technical issues that aren't communicated clearly. The suggestion about confirming SSA actually received the returned funds is particularly important since there can be delays between when you see the bank withdrawal and when their system registers it. Keep detailed notes of every interaction and don't accept vague "it's in queue" responses. You deserve specific answers about what's preventing this from moving forward. Hang in there - you're advocating for something the estate is rightfully owed.

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Thank you for this comprehensive advice! As someone who's been feeling pretty lost navigating this whole process, it's incredibly helpful to have a clear action plan laid out. You're right that I need to stop accepting vague responses - I've been too passive about this, probably because I was overwhelmed with everything else that comes with losing a spouse and settling an estate. The multi-pronged approach makes a lot of sense. I'll start with the early morning calls using those specific questions about alerts and fund confirmation, but it's good to know the congressional office option is there as a backup if SSA continues to be unresponsive. I definitely should have been keeping better notes from the beginning, but I'll start documenting everything going forward. It's frustrating that what should be a straightforward process has become this complicated, but I feel much more prepared to advocate effectively now thanks to everyone's insights here. Really appreciate this community's support during a difficult time.

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I'm so sorry for your loss and the frustration you're experiencing with this delay. As a newcomer to this community, I've been reading through all the helpful advice shared here and wanted to offer some additional support. You're absolutely entitled to that March payment since your husband was alive for the entire month, and being at 6+ months is definitely beyond the normal processing timeframe. From what I've learned reading similar cases, it sounds like there might be a specific technical issue holding things up that hasn't been properly communicated to you. I'd recommend calling SSA at 8am sharp using those specific questions others have outlined - particularly asking about alerts/holds on your claim and whether they've confirmed receipt of the returned funds. Sometimes there's a disconnect between when you see the withdrawal from the bank account and when SSA's system actually registers they have the money back. If the phone calls don't yield concrete answers, definitely consider contacting your congressional representative's office. They have staff specifically trained to help with federal agency issues and can often get movement on claims that have been stalled. Most importantly, don't accept any more vague "it's in queue" responses. You've waited long enough and deserve specific information about what's preventing this from being processed. Document everything and keep advocating - this is money your husband's estate is rightfully owed.

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Thank you so much for this thoughtful advice! As someone who's new to both this community and unfortunately to dealing with estate issues, I really appreciate how supportive and knowledgeable everyone has been here. You're absolutely right that I need to stop accepting vague responses. Looking back, I think I was being too passive about this whole situation - probably because I was overwhelmed with everything else that comes with losing a spouse and trying to settle his estate. But it's clear from everyone's responses that 6+ months is well beyond normal, and I have every right to demand specific answers about what's holding this up. I'm definitely going to try the early morning call strategy tomorrow with those specific questions about alerts, holds, and fund confirmation status. The point about there potentially being a disconnect between when I see the bank withdrawal and when SSA's system registers receiving the funds back is really insightful - that could very well be what's causing this delay. Having the congressional office option as a backup gives me confidence that I have other avenues if the direct calls don't work. I feel much more prepared to advocate effectively now thanks to all the guidance from this community. It's reassuring to know I'm fighting for something the estate is rightfully owed, not just being impatient.

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Great decision Paolo! Just wanted to add that you typically have up to 12 months from your benefit start date to withdraw your application if you change your mind. You'd need to pay back any benefits received, but it's an option if you decide later that waiting until FRA would have been better. Also, if you do stick with the January start date, remember that the earnings test is applied on an annual basis too. So even if you go over $1,850 in one of those months, SSA will also do a yearly calculation that might work in your favor. But honestly, starting in April sounds like the cleaner approach given your work situation!

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Thanks Connor! I didn't know about the 12-month withdrawal option - that's really good to know as a backup plan. You're right that starting in April seems like the cleaner approach. I'm definitely leaning toward changing my start date now after reading everyone's experiences. Better to avoid the potential headaches with the earnings test altogether, especially since I'm planning to keep working anyway. Really appreciate all the helpful advice from everyone here!

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned that might be helpful - if you do decide to keep your January start date, make sure you understand how Social Security defines "earnings" for the monthly test. For W-2 employees, it's gross wages in the month the work was performed (not when paid). For self-employed folks, it gets trickier - they look at net earnings from self-employment. Also, just wanted to clarify something from earlier in the thread - the "substantial services" rule that was mentioned does exist, but it's primarily for people who own businesses and claim to be "retired" while still actively running their companies. It's more about whether you're truly retired from your business rather than a strict hours limit. For regular employees, this doesn't apply at all. Given that you mentioned having a regular W-2 job, you really just need to focus on that $1,850 monthly limit for those first three months if you stick with the January start date. After April, work as much as you want with zero restrictions!

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This is really helpful clarification, Kaitlyn! I appreciate you breaking down the difference between W-2 and self-employment earnings for the monthly test. Since I have a regular W-2 job, it sounds like the calculation should be pretty straightforward - just my gross wages for each month. That makes me feel more confident about potentially keeping the January start date if I decide not to change it. The substantial services rule explanation also clears up some of the confusion from earlier in the thread. Thanks for taking the time to explain these details!

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I went through something very similar when my wife started collecting SSDI and I reached my FRA. One thing that helped us was understanding that even though she wouldn't get additional spousal benefits (her SSDI was already higher than 50% of my PIA), we still benefited from having both our benefits coming in. Also, don't forget to consider the tax implications - depending on your combined income, some of your Social Security benefits might become taxable. It's worth speaking with a tax professional if your total household income is getting close to the thresholds. The survivor benefit situation that others mentioned is definitely something to keep in mind for long-term planning. Hope you're able to get through to SSA soon - maybe try calling right when they open at 8 AM, that sometimes helps with the wait times.

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Great advice about calling right at 8 AM - I've heard that tip before but haven't tried it yet. The point about tax implications is something I hadn't considered at all. With my SSDI and his retirement benefit combined, we might be getting into territory where taxes become a factor. I'll definitely look into that. It's reassuring to hear from someone who went through a similar situation. Even though I won't get additional spousal benefits, it sounds like there are still other financial planning considerations to think about. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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I'm in a somewhat similar situation and wanted to share what I learned from my SSA experience. When my husband filed for his retirement benefits last year, I called SSA specifically to ask them to review my case for spousal benefits eligibility. The representative told me they had already done an automatic review when my husband's claim was processed, but she walked through the calculation with me over the phone to confirm. In my case, my SSDI was about $200 less than half of my husband's PIA, so I did qualify for a small spousal supplement. The key thing I learned is that you need to be very specific when you call - ask them to confirm whether an automatic spousal benefit evaluation was completed when your husband filed, and if so, what the results were. If they haven't done it yet, request that they do it while you're on the phone. Also, I found that calling on Tuesday or Wednesday mornings around 10 AM gave me shorter wait times than other days. Good luck!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Hannah. Losing your husband so young and having to navigate these complex Social Security rules while grieving is incredibly challenging. Everyone here has given you solid advice about the earnings test - with your $53K income, you'd definitely lose most of your widow benefit if you claim at 62. The 2025 earnings limit is around $23,040, so you'd be looking at losing about $15,000 in benefits annually. One thing I want to emphasize that others have touched on: your husband's benefit at 69 is significantly higher than what it would have been at his FRA of 66. Those delayed retirement credits from 66-69 add up to about 24% extra - that's a substantial amount that you don't want to leave on the table. Here's something practical that might help: before making any decisions, try to get a Social Security statement for both you and your husband (you'll need his death certificate and your marriage certificate). This will show you exactly what his benefit was worth at 69 and what yours would be at different claiming ages. Having those real numbers makes the decision much clearer. Given your situation, waiting until 67 to claim the widow benefit seems like the smartest financial move, even though I know waiting 5 years feels daunting right now. You can keep working without penalty and get 100% of what your husband earned with his delayed credits. Take care of yourself during this difficult time.

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Thank you so much, Liam. Your breakdown really helps clarify the financial impact - seeing that $15,000 annual loss to the earnings test really drives home why waiting makes sense. I'm definitely going to gather those Social Security statements this week with the death certificate and marriage certificate. Having the actual dollar amounts will make this decision much easier than trying to guess. The 24% increase from the delayed retirement credits is significant enough that it's worth waiting for, even though 5 years feels like forever right now. I really appreciate everyone in this community taking the time to help me understand these complex rules during such a difficult time.

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Hannah, I'm deeply sorry for your loss. Losing your spouse at such a young age while navigating these complex benefit rules is truly overwhelming. Based on what you've shared, I want to reinforce what others have said about your husband's benefit amount - since he passed at 69, you'd receive what he would have gotten with ALL his delayed retirement credits from age 66-69. That's roughly 32% more than his full retirement age benefit (8% per year for 3 years plus the 8% he would have earned from 69-70). This is a significant amount that makes the waiting strategy even more worthwhile. However, with your $53K income, you're correct that the earnings test would be brutal. You'd lose about $1 for every $2 over the ~$23K limit, which could wipe out most of your benefit. One strategy to consider: you mentioned you're 62 now and your FRA is 67. Could you potentially reduce your work hours or income as you get closer to 67? Even dropping below the earnings limit for just the final year or two before your FRA could allow you to claim some benefits while still avoiding the full impact. But honestly, given the substantial amount you'd receive at 67 with no earnings test, waiting seems like the most financially sound approach. Just make sure to get those exact benefit calculations from SSA so you can see the real dollar impact of your decision. You're handling an incredibly difficult situation with great thoughtfulness.

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Layla, thank you for that insight about the 32% increase - I didn't realize it was quite that much! That really changes the calculation. The idea about potentially reducing work hours as I get closer to 67 is interesting and something I hadn't considered. Maybe I could transition to part-time in a few years if my financial situation allows for it. But you're right that getting the exact SSA calculations first is the most important step. I'm feeling more confident about the waiting strategy after hearing from everyone here. This community has been such a lifeline during this difficult time.

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This thread has been incredibly educational! As someone who's been dreading navigating the Social Security maze, seeing all these acronyms explained in simple terms is such a relief. I'm definitely going to print this out and keep it handy. One acronym I haven't seen mentioned yet is OASDI - Old Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance. This is what most people think of as "Social Security" and it's what you see deducted from your paycheck (along with Medicare taxes). It covers retirement benefits (Old Age), benefits for surviving spouses and children (Survivors), and disability benefits (Disability Insurance). Also, for anyone dealing with disability benefits, you might see CDR which stands for Continuing Disability Review - that's when SSA periodically reviews your case to make sure you still qualify for disability benefits. Thanks to everyone who contributed to making this such a comprehensive guide! It's posts like these that make navigating government benefits feel a little less overwhelming.

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Thank you so much for adding OASDI and CDR to the list! I had no idea what OASDI stood for even though I see it on my pay stub every month. It's embarrassing how long I've been working without understanding what those deductions were actually for beyond just "Social Security taxes." This entire thread has been like getting a crash course in Social Security 101. I'm going to compile all these acronyms into a single document that I can reference when I'm doing my retirement planning. It's amazing how much more confident I feel about approaching this whole process now that I actually understand the language being used. @Connor - do you happen to know what the typical timeline is for CDRs? I have a friend on disability who's always worried about when her next review might happen.

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This has been such an amazing resource! I'm 58 and starting to think about retirement planning, and like many others here, I was completely intimidated by all the Social Security jargon. Reading through everyone's explanations has been like taking a free crash course. I want to add a few more acronyms that I've encountered that might be helpful: • SGA - Substantial Gainful Activity (earnings threshold for disability benefits) • PEBES - Personal Earnings and Benefit Estimate Statement (the old name for what's now called your Social Security Statement) • BEND POINTS - the dollar amounts used in the PIA calculation formula • FUTA - Federal Unemployment Tax Act (different from FICA but sometimes confused) • FICA - Federal Insurance Contributions Act (the law that requires SS and Medicare taxes) One thing I learned the hard way is that when you're researching online, make sure you're looking at current year information since some of these amounts and thresholds change annually. I was using outdated COLA information for months before I realized my mistake! Thank you to everyone who made this thread so educational and welcoming. It's refreshing to find a place where asking "basic" questions doesn't make you feel foolish.

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This is exactly what I needed to see! I'm 59 and have been putting off learning about Social Security for way too long because all the acronyms made my head spin. Thank you @Miguel for adding those additional terms - I had never heard of BEND POINTS before and that sounds like something I definitely need to understand for my benefit calculations. Your point about making sure to use current year information is so important! I made a similar mistake early on when I was trying to figure out my QCs and was looking at outdated earnings thresholds. It's frustrating how this information changes every year but isn't always clearly marked with dates on websites. I'm so grateful for this entire thread. I feel like I went from knowing absolutely nothing about Social Security terminology to having a solid foundation to build on. I'm definitely going to create that cheat sheet everyone's been talking about and keep it with my retirement planning documents. It's amazing how much less scary this whole process seems when you actually understand what people are talking about! Has anyone found any good resources for understanding how the BEND POINTS calculation actually works? That seems like it could be pretty important for estimating benefits.

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