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Miguel Diaz

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One important point that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your husband's benefit is higher than yours even after the WEP reduction, you might want to consider survivor benefit planning. If he passes away before you, as his widow, you could receive his full benefit amount instead of your own (subject to GPO if applicable). This is something to factor into your long-term planning as well.

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Ava Rodriguez

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I hadn't even thought about survivor benefits. That's a good point since there's a 5-year age difference between us. I need to make sure I understand all these different benefits!

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Paolo Longo

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After using that service I mentioned to reach SSA, they explained to me that my husband's PIA was the key number I needed to know. Once I had that, I could calculate 50% of it and compare to my own benefit. Has your husband ever received a Social Security statement that might show his PIA? That could save you some time.

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Ava Rodriguez

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I'll ask him to check his online account. He's not very computer savvy but I can help him log in. Thanks for the suggestion!

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Sean O'Connor

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my neighbor worked for the post office and had the same question when she got promoted. she said her benefit estimate went up about $200/month after her higher salary was recorded but it took almost a year to show up in the system. might be different for you tho.

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Zara Ahmed

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One more thing to consider: If you're within a few years of retirement, you might want to check whether your 2024 earnings will replace one of your 35 highest years. If you've consistently earned a good income throughout your career, a single year's increase may have less impact than if you have some lower-earning or zero years in your calculation. You can see your year-by-year earnings history in your my Social Security account to get a better idea of how significant this increase might be to your overall calculation.

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Freya Larsen

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That's a really good point. I do have about 5 years early in my career where I earned very little (was in graduate school and working part-time). I'm guessing the new salary will definitely replace one of those years in the calculation. I'll check my year-by-year history to see exactly how it might impact things.

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Connor Murphy

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I'm confused about something... if you're going over the limit in 2025 but they don't find out until 2026 when you file taxes, do they make you pay back the whole amount at once? Seems really unfair if you didn't know you were going over!

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Miguel Ortiz

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When I got my overpayment notice, they gave me options - pay it all back at once, have them withhold future payments until it's paid off, or set up a monthly payment plan. You can also request a waiver if it would cause hardship. But definitely try to avoid the situation entirely by keeping good records of your earnings throughout the year.

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StarSeeker

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Thanks everyone for all these helpful responses! Based on what I'm hearing, I think my best plan is to: 1. File the SSA-131 form when I start working in October to notify them 2. Keep VERY careful records of my hours and earnings 3. Stay well under the limit to provide a safety buffer 4. Perhaps check in with SSA midway through 2025 (using that Claimyr service if needed to avoid long wait times) I appreciate all the advice and personal experiences. It's given me a much better understanding of how this works. I'm still a bit nervous about potential payment disruptions, but at least now I know what to expect and how to be proactive!

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Hunter Hampton

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My friend tried to do this but found out her ex had barely worked under social security because he was a teacher with a pension. She ended up getting almost nothing from his record. Do you know if your ex worked consistently under Social Security?

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Grant Vikers

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Yes, he worked for a large corporation for over 35 years, all under Social Security. No pension or anything like that to complicate things, thankfully!

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One final tip - when you do file, make sure to specifically tell SSA you want to file for divorced spouse benefits. Sometimes they don't check automatically even though they should. Bring your marriage certificate and divorce decree to your appointment. You might also need his Social Security number, but if you don't have it, SSA can usually find it with his name and date of birth.

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Grant Vikers

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This is really helpful advice. I do have his SSN from some old tax returns, and I have copies of our marriage and divorce paperwork. I'll make sure to specifically request the divorced spouse benefit evaluation when I file.

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Aiden Chen

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my condolences on ur loss. when my husband passed the ssa office told me something different than what they told u. they said just take the higher benefit and thats it. didnt mention anything about paybacks or limribs or whatever. maybe different offices have different rules?

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Caleb Stone

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The rules are the same nationwide, but unfortunately, not all SSA representatives explain things completely or correctly. The complexity depends on your specific situation - particularly your age when claiming and whether you've already taken your own benefits. If you were already at your full retirement age when your husband passed, the RIB-LIM rule wouldn't have applied to you, which might explain why they gave you simpler information.

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Jade Santiago

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Thank you all for the helpful responses! I've decided to gather all my paperwork and apply for the withdrawal of my retirement application. Based on the 4-year break-even calculation, it makes sense in my situation. I'm going to call SSA tomorrow to start the process (or try that Claimyr service if I can't get through). I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and knowledge - navigating this system while dealing with grief has been overwhelming, and your help has made a significant difference.

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Olivia Evans

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Good luck! Make sure to get everything in writing when you do this. I found that having a written record of what the SSA rep told me was super helpful later when questions came up. And be prepared for the possibility that the first person you talk to might not understand what you're trying to do - sometimes you need to talk to a supervisor who's more familiar with these complicated rules.

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Amara Torres

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My husband was in this EXACT situation!!! His bday is in March but he waited till June to file (FRA) because we heard horror stories about the SSA messing up people's payment amounts when they file right at their birthday month! So we waited a few extra months just to be safe. Dunno if thats really necessary but we didnt want any mistakes!!!!

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Smart move. My cousin filed exactly on his birthday month and SSA somehow calculated his first check wrong. Took 5 months to fix! Sometimes the extra caution pays off. The system makes so many mistakes.

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Elijah O'Reilly

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One other thing to consider - since your husband is still working at a good salary, his Social Security benefit amount might actually increase slightly if his current earnings are higher than some earlier years in his earnings record. SSA uses the highest 35 years of indexed earnings to calculate benefits. This is especially true if he had any years with low earnings or gaps in his work history. Each additional high-earning year can bump out a lower year in the calculation. So waiting those extra months could potentially increase his benefit by more than just avoiding the early filing reduction.

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Natalie Adams

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I hadn't even thought about this aspect! His current salary is definitely higher than what he made 30+ years ago, even adjusted for inflation. This is yet another reason to wait. Thank you for pointing this out!

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CosmicCowboy

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Based on all your responses, it seems I won't qualify for my ex's survivor benefits since I remarried before 60. I'm going to schedule an appointment with SSA to discuss my options regarding my own benefits and possibly spousal benefits from my current husband. Thanks to everyone for your help!

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Natasha Orlova

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That's a good plan. When you talk to SSA, ask them to run calculations for claiming at different ages. Remember that your own retirement benefit increases by about 8% for each year you delay claiming between your Full Retirement Age (probably 66-67 for you) and age 70. So depending on your financial situation, it might be beneficial to continue working and delay claiming to maximize your monthly benefit amount.

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Javier Cruz

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my bad about the wrong info i think my sister wasnt remarried when her ex died thats probably why she could get his ss

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Emma Thompson

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Yes, that would make a difference! If she was unmarried when claiming survivor benefits, she would be eligible. It's a good reminder that everyone's situation has unique details that affect eligibility.

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Max Knight

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The SSDI limits are RIDICULOUS anyway. How is anyone supposed to live on that??? The government expects disabled people to survive on poverty wages while politicians make six figures. The whole system is BROKEN. I can barely pay rent with my SSDI check and now we have to worry about touching our own retirement money??

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Emma Swift

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While I understand your frustration with benefit amounts, the good news in this specific situation is that OP can withdraw from their TSP without affecting their SSDI benefits at all. The withdrawal won't count against their earnings limit since it's not earned income from work activity.

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Camila Jordan

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Thanks everyone for the helpful replies. Just to summarize what I've learned for anyone else in my situation: 1. TSP withdrawals will NOT count against SSDI's SGA limit (currently ~$1,550/month for 2025) 2. This is because TSP withdrawals are considered unearned/passive income 3. If I were on SSI instead of SSDI, it WOULD count (thankfully I'm not) 4. I'll still pay income tax + 10% early withdrawal penalty 5. A TSP loan might be better than a withdrawal in my situation 6. The withdrawal might affect Medicare premiums later via IRMAA This community is amazing - you've saved me so much stress!

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Isabella Tucker

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Great summary! One more tip - even though TSP withdrawals don't affect your SSDI, if you're planning to return to work part-time in the future, be sure to keep your earned income under the SGA limit. The SSA can be really strict about this, and going even $1 over could trigger a review.

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Sofia Morales

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do u get medicare at least? or do teachers have their own thing for that too?

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StarSailor

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Good question. Non-covered employees like many teachers still qualify for Medicare if they or their spouse paid Medicare taxes for at least 10 years (40 quarters). Medicare eligibility isn't affected by GPO or WEP.

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Amara Nnamani

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Update: I finally got through to SSA after using the Claimyr service that someone suggested. The agent confirmed that with my projected pension of $4,200, I'll get zero spousal benefits (the GPO reduction exceeds what I would receive). However, she explained that if my husband passes away, I might still get some survivor benefits since those can be up to 100% of his benefit (before GPO reduction) instead of the 50% for spousal benefits. She also clarified that if I work a job with Social Security coverage for 5 more years (to get to at least 20 credits), it still won't help me get my own retirement benefit (need 40 credits), but it might slightly improve my situation with survivor benefits later. Knowing the real numbers is frustrating but at least now we can plan appropriately. Thanks everyone for your help!

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Dylan Cooper

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I'm sorry the news wasn't better, but I'm glad you got the information you needed. The GPO/WEP provisions create real challenges for retirement planning for public servants. At least the survivor benefit might provide some support in the future, and now you can make informed decisions.

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Eleanor Foster

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Make sure you ask about retroactive benefits too! They don't always tell you that you can get up to 6 months of retroactive survivor benefits from your application date IF you're past your FRA. They never volunteer this information!

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Mohammed Khan

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That's partially correct. For survivor benefits, you can get up to 6 months of retroactive benefits regardless of your age. For regular retirement benefits, retroactive benefits only apply if you're past FRA, and then it's up to 6 months. But it's absolutely true they don't always volunteer this information.

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Ella Russell

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Thanks everyone for all this helpful information. I've called SSA three times today and can't get through. I'm going to try that Claimyr service to get an appointment scheduled. I've gathered all the documents mentioned and ordered certified copies of my birth certificate and our divorce papers. I'll update once I get an appointment and go through the process in case it helps someone else.

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Nathan Kim

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good luck! and sorry about your husband. this is all so hard to deal with when you're grieving.

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