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Camila Jordan

Will TSP withdrawals count as income against my SSDI limits in 2025?

Hey fellow SS recipients - got a question about SSDI and retirement accounts that's been driving me crazy. I've been on SSDI for about 3 years now (back injury from construction work that never fully healed). My financial situation is getting tight, and I'm considering withdrawing about $8,000 from my TSP account that I built up during my federal job before the construction gig. I know there's that substantial gainful activity (SGA) limit for SSDI - around $1,550/month for 2025 I think? But I'm confused whether a one-time TSP withdrawal counts toward this limit. Is it considered passive/unearned income? Or would SSA count it against my earnings limit and potentially suspend my benefits? I already know I'll get hit with taxes on the withdrawal, but that's better than letting my credit card debt keep growing. Anyone have experience with this? Don't want to accidentally mess up my SSDI benefits trying to stay afloat.

Good news - TSP withdrawals won't count against your SSDI earnings limit. The SGA limit only applies to earned income from work activity. Retirement account withdrawals are considered unearned income (like interest or dividends) and don't affect your SSDI eligibility. However, if you were receiving SSI (Supplemental Security Income) instead of SSDI, then it WOULD count as income and resources for that program. But for SSDI, you're fine on this front. Just remember you'll owe income tax on the withdrawal, and possibly an early withdrawal penalty if you're under 59½ (unless you qualify for an exception).

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That's SUCH a relief! Thanks for clearing that up. I was worried SSA might somehow count it as income since it's money coming to me. I'm 54, so I know I'll get hit with the early withdrawal penalty on top of taxes, but honestly it's worth it to handle some of these bills. Hoping to get back to at least part-time work next year if my therapy keeps helping.

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my uncle did TSP withdrawls last yr when he was on SSDI and SSA didnt care at all. they only look at actual work $ from what he said. but watch out for the tax hit, he was surprised how much they took out!!

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This is actually incorrect information. Your uncle may have been receiving SSI, not SSDI. With SSI, any income including retirement withdrawals WILL count against your benefits and need to be reported. Please don't spread misinformation that could cause people to lose benefits.

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no hes definitely on SSDI not SSI, has been for like 10 yrs. maybe check ur facts before accusing ppl of spreading misinfo lol

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I went through exactly this situation in 2023. You're absolutely correct that TSP withdrawals don't count against SSDI limits. The Social Security Administration only counts earned income from work when calculating SGA limits for SSDI recipients. However, there are a few important things to consider: 1. You will pay ordinary income tax on traditional TSP withdrawals 2. If you're under 59½, there's a 10% early withdrawal penalty (with some exceptions) 3. If you withdraw too much at once, it could push you into a higher tax bracket Have you considered taking a TSP loan instead of a withdrawal? That would avoid the taxes and penalties, though you'd need to repay it.

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I didn't even think about a TSP loan! That's actually brilliant - would save me the tax hit and that painful 10% penalty. Do you know if I can still take a loan even though I no longer work for the federal government? I left that job about 8 years ago but kept my money in the TSP.

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Just adding my personal experience - I've been on SSDI for 5+ years and have taken withdrawals from my 401k twice during that time. The SSA never counted it as income for SSDI purposes. The SGA limit ONLY applies to earned income from work activity. However, trying to reach someone at SSA to confirm this was IMPOSSIBLE. Was on hold for 3+ hours multiple times and kept getting disconnected. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that held my place in line and got me connected to an agent in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent confirmed that retirement account withdrawals don't count against SSDI, so I had peace of mind before making my withdrawal.

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Thanks for sharing that service! I've had the same horrible experience trying to get through to SSA. Last time I tried, I was on hold for over 2 hours and then the call dropped. I'll definitely check out that Claimyr service - even if just to confirm everything before I make the withdrawal. Peace of mind is worth it.

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I'm in the EXACT SAME SITUATION!!! On SSDI and need to tap my retirement $$$. But my question is - what about if I'm close to Medicare age? Will taking money out of TSP affect my Medicare premiums later??? I heard something about IRMAA and higher premiums if your income is higher. Anyone know about this????

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Yes, that's a valid concern. While the TSP withdrawal won't affect your SSDI eligibility, it WILL count as income for determining Medicare IRMAA (Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amount) surcharges. These are higher premiums for Medicare Part B and D if your income exceeds certain thresholds. However, IRMAA is based on your tax return from 2 years prior. So a withdrawal in 2025 would potentially affect your Medicare premiums in 2027. Something to consider in your planning.

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In my experience with the SSA (former claims specialist for 15 years), TSP withdrawals are definitely NOT counted as earned income for SSDI. They have no impact on the SGA limit. However, I've seen people get confused because: 1. They confuse SSDI with SSI (which DOES count all income including TSP withdrawals) 2. They don't realize TSP withdrawals are still reported to IRS and show up on tax returns 3. They don't understand that Medicare IRMAA surcharges are affected by all income, including TSP withdrawals So while your SSDI benefits are safe, just be aware of these other potential impacts.

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omg THANK YOU for explaining this so clearly!!! I've been getting such confusing answers from everyone. So basically my SSDI check is safe but I might pay more for Medicare later if I take out too much from my TSP. That makes sense!

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The SSDI limits are RIDICULOUS anyway. How is anyone supposed to live on that??? The government expects disabled people to survive on poverty wages while politicians make six figures. The whole system is BROKEN. I can barely pay rent with my SSDI check and now we have to worry about touching our own retirement money??

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While I understand your frustration with benefit amounts, the good news in this specific situation is that OP can withdraw from their TSP without affecting their SSDI benefits at all. The withdrawal won't count against their earnings limit since it's not earned income from work activity.

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Thanks everyone for the helpful replies. Just to summarize what I've learned for anyone else in my situation: 1. TSP withdrawals will NOT count against SSDI's SGA limit (currently ~$1,550/month for 2025) 2. This is because TSP withdrawals are considered unearned/passive income 3. If I were on SSI instead of SSDI, it WOULD count (thankfully I'm not) 4. I'll still pay income tax + 10% early withdrawal penalty 5. A TSP loan might be better than a withdrawal in my situation 6. The withdrawal might affect Medicare premiums later via IRMAA This community is amazing - you've saved me so much stress!

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Great summary! One more tip - even though TSP withdrawals don't affect your SSDI, if you're planning to return to work part-time in the future, be sure to keep your earned income under the SGA limit. The SSA can be really strict about this, and going even $1 over could trigger a review.

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Hey Camila - just wanted to add one more thing about TSP loans that might help with your decision. Since you're no longer a federal employee, you CAN still take a TSP loan if you haven't already taken one out. The loan limit is typically 50% of your vested balance or $50,000, whichever is less. The big advantage is you're essentially paying interest back to yourself (currently around 4.125% I think), and there's no tax hit or early withdrawal penalty. You just need to make sure you can handle the monthly payments - they're usually spread over 1-5 years. However, if you default on the loan, it becomes a taxable distribution with penalties. Given that you're on SSDI with limited income, make sure the payment amount works with your budget before going this route. But it could save you thousands compared to a straight withdrawal!

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