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Will Roth IRA withdrawals count toward Social Security Survivor Benefits earnings limit?

I started receiving Social Security survivor benefits six months ago after turning 60 this January. My husband passed away in 2021 and I know there are earnings limits while collecting these benefits. I currently work part-time at a local bookstore making approximately $21,500 annually, and I'm careful to stay under the 2025 earnings limit (around $24,600 I believe). Here's my concern - I'm planning to withdraw about $8,000 from my Roth IRA for some home repairs. Since I already paid taxes on this money when I contributed it years ago, I'm wondering if the SSA would count this as income toward the earnings limit? I really don't want to accidentally trigger any benefit reductions or have to pay anything back. I tried calling the SSA office three times but kept getting disconnected after waiting for over an hour each time. Has anyone dealt with Roth withdrawals while on survivor benefits?

Good news - Roth IRA withdrawals do NOT count toward the Social Security earnings limit. The earnings test only counts wages from employment or net earnings from self-employment. Investment income, including IRA withdrawals (Roth or traditional), interest, dividends, capital gains, pensions, and annuities don't count toward the limit. So you can safely take out that $8,000 without worrying about your survivor benefits being affected. Just make sure you're following the Roth IRA rules for qualified distributions to avoid any tax issues with the IRS (generally, the account needs to be open for 5+ years and you need to be 59½ or older).

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Thank you so much for this clear explanation! That's a huge relief. Yes, I've had this Roth for over 12 years and I'm 60, so I should be fine on the qualified distribution part. I was really stressing about possibly losing some of my survivor benefits.

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BE CAREFUL!!!! The SSA agent told me ANY money counts toward the limit when I was on survivors benefits last year!!! I had to pay back $3,800 because they said I went over the limit!!! The whole system is designed to CONFUSE people and TAKE THEIR MONEY!!! I would ABSOLUTELY call and get this in writing from someone at SSA before you withdraw anything!!! Don't trust what people on the internet say about this!!!

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I understand your frustration with SSA, but there's a misunderstanding here. The earnings limit ONLY applies to wages and self-employment income. The Social Security Program Operations Manual System (POMS) explicitly states that investment income, including IRA distributions, doesn't count toward the earnings test. It sounds like you might have had a different situation - possibly involving earned income that pushed you over the limit, not investment withdrawals.

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I went through exactly this situation last year. You're completely fine taking Roth IRA distributions while collecting survivor benefits. The SSA only counts "earned income" toward the annual earnings limit - basically money you actively work for, like wages, salaries, bonuses, commissions, etc. Roth IRA distributions are considered "unearned income" and don't affect your benefits at all. I withdrew $12k from my Roth last year while on survivor benefits and it had zero impact. If you're still worried, you can check the SSA website directly: https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/rtea.html - it specifically mentions only earnings from work count.

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Thank you! It's reassuring to hear from someone who's actually done this. I'll check out that link too. This whole earnings limit thing has been causing me so much anxiety.

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good 4 u on the roth! wish i had done that instead of traditional ira, taxes are killing me rn on my withdraws. my sister got survivor benifits too and she takes money from investments all the time, no problems

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Thanks! Yeah, I'm grateful for the Roth now. Sorry about your tax situation with the traditional IRA - that's tough.

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Just wanted to add one clarification that might help others reading this thread - there's a difference between the earnings limit test (which affects benefits before Full Retirement Age) and provisional income (which determines if your Social Security benefits are taxable). For the earnings limit: Roth withdrawals don't count, as others have confirmed. For taxation of benefits: Roth withdrawals also don't count toward the provisional income formula that determines if your Social Security benefits are taxable. Traditional IRA withdrawals DO count for this purpose. This is one of those hidden advantages of Roths that people don't always realize!

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This is such a good point! I was getting these two concepts mixed up. The taxation thing was confusing me too.

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I tried calling SSA for a similar question about investment income last month and couldn't get through after trying for THREE DAYS! Then I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual SSA agent in under 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Worth it just to get confirmation directly from SSA about your specific situation. The agent I spoke with confirmed that Roth distributions don't count toward the earnings limit, just like others here are saying.

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Thanks for the tip! I might try that service. Even though I feel reassured from everyone's responses, getting official confirmation from SSA would give me complete peace of mind.

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does this actually work? ive NEVER gotten thru to a real person at social security. spent 4 hours on hold last month and gave up

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my neighbor said something about being careful with roth 5 year rules? not sure what that means but maybe look into it

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The Roth 5-year rule means you must have opened your first Roth IRA at least 5 years before taking tax-free distributions of earnings (not contributions). But since the original poster mentioned having their Roth for 12 years and being over 59½, they're fully compliant with both requirements for qualified distributions. This rule is completely separate from Social Security issues.

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Another thing to watch is if youre still CONTRIBUTING to the Roth while collecting SS benefits! If youre putting money IN, that money had to come from somewhere and if it came from working that DOES count toward the limit!! The SSA looks at your TAX RETURN not just your W2!!

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This is partially correct but needs clarification. If you're working and earning income, it's the earnings from work that count toward the limit, not the Roth contribution itself. The act of contributing to a Roth doesn't impact your benefits - it's the work income that generated the money that matters. And if you're using money from savings or non-work sources to contribute to a Roth, that doesn't affect the earnings test at all.

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im so confused about all this survivor benefit stuff... i turn 60 next month and my husband died 3 years ago. should i take survivors now or wait? does the roth thing affect when i should file??

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The Roth question doesn't really impact when you should claim survivor benefits. That decision should be based on: 1. Your current income needs 2. Your health/life expectancy 3. Your own Social Security retirement benefit amount 4. Your current earnings from work If you claim at 60, you'll get about 71.5% of your husband's full benefit. Each year you wait (until your Full Retirement Age of 67), the benefit increases. If you're still working with substantial earnings, you might want to wait due to the earnings limit. Consider speaking with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security claiming strategies, as the right choice varies greatly depending on your specific situation.

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