Social Security earnings limit confusion - when does SS reduce benefits if I exceed the limit?
Hi everyone! I need some clarification about working while receiving Social Security before Full Retirement Age (FRA). I started collecting SS in 2022 at age 62, and won't reach my FRA until 2027. I've been offered a part-time temporary position with my old company, which I'm considering taking for about 6 months (October 2024 through March 2025). I've carefully calculated my hours to stay under the annual earnings limit for both 2024 and 2025 (working 3 months each year). But here's my concern - what if I end up working longer than planned in 2025 and accidentally go over the earnings limit? At what point does Social Security actually find out about my excess earnings and start reducing my monthly payments? Do they know immediately through some reporting system, or only after I file my taxes for 2025? And how exactly do they adjust my benefits - do they suddenly stop payments completely until I've "paid back" the amount I went over, or do they reduce my monthly amount by a percentage? I don't want to get blindsided with a huge overpayment notice or suddenly have zero income. Thanks for any insights!
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Ava Martinez
They won't know until you file taxes for 2025 which isn't until 2026... so you could potentially get paid the full amount all year then have to pay back a bunch or have future benefits reduced.
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StarSeeker
•Thanks for replying! That's kind of what I was afraid of. So there's no real-time reporting from employers to SSA about earnings?
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Miguel Ortiz
When I went through this last year, here's what happened: SSA sends out a letter early in the year asking about your expected earnings for the current year. You have to estimate your earnings and send it back. They will adjust your benefits based on your estimate. If you go over your estimate, they won't know until you file taxes. Then they'll send you an overpayment notice. If you earn less than your estimate, they'll pay you the difference. For the record, I used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to actually talk to someone at SSA about this exact situation - I had questions their online form didn't answer. Was able to get through in 15 minutes instead of waiting on hold for hours. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU
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StarSeeker
•Oh, that's good to know about the annual letter! I don't think I've gotten one before, but maybe that's because I haven't worked since starting benefits. Do you remember what time of year they send it out? And thanks for the Claimyr tip - might need that if I can't figure this out.
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Miguel Ortiz
•I got mine in January. But I think they only send it if you've previously reported that you plan to work. You should probably call them proactively to update your work status so you don't get hit with a surprise overpayment later.
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Zainab Omar
Let me clarify how this actually works, since there seems to be some confusion: 1. SSA applies the earnings test monthly in the first year you receive benefits (2022 in your case) and annually thereafter 2. For 2024-2025, they'll use the annual limit ($22,320 for 2024, likely around $23,000 for 2025) 3. They withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above the limit 4. For proactive reporting: you should complete form SSA-131 (Work Activity Report) when you start working 5. Many beneficiaries don't realize that SSA eventually receives wage data from the IRS after you file taxes, which triggers automated earnings reviews 6. If you exceed the limit, SSA will send a notice explaining the overpayment and options (repayment plan, waiver request, or appeal) Most importantly: going over the limit isn't necessarily bad! SSA will recalculate your benefit amount when you reach FRA to credit back the withheld benefits.
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Connor Murphy
•wait but if they take $1 for every $2 over the limit doesnt that mean your losing money by working more??
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Zainab Omar
•Not necessarily losing money. You'd still keep half of what you earn above the limit, plus you get tax advantages since those withheld benefits get credited back after FRA in the form of a higher monthly payment. But yes, the earnings test does reduce the immediate financial incentive to work beyond the limit.
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Yara Sayegh
BEWARE!!! SSA's systems are TERRIBLE at tracking this properly!!!! I went through HELL last year when I accidentally went over by just $870! They suddenly stopped ALL my payments for THREE MONTHS without warning! When I called they kept giving different explanations. One rep said they'd resume after withholding for 2 months, another said 3 months, a third said I'd get a partial payment!!! NOBODY KNEW! I had to borrow money from my daughter to pay rent!!! My advice: DOCUMENT EVERYTHING and keep WELL under the limit!!!!!
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StarSeeker
•Oh no, that sounds like a nightmare! I'm so sorry you went through that. Did you eventually get it sorted out? I'm definitely scared of the payments suddenly stopping without warning - I have some savings but not enough to cover many months.
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NebulaNova
There are several important technical points to understand about the earnings limit: 1. The annual earnings limit for 2024 is $22,320 if you're under FRA the entire year (which you are). This will increase slightly for 2025. 2. SSA primarily learns about excess earnings in three ways: - Your self-reporting (Form SSA-131) - Annual earnings verification with IRS (after tax filing) - Employer's W-2 reporting (which happens early the following year) 3. If you exceed the limit, SSA applies a reduction formula of $1 withheld for every $2 over the limit. 4. The withholding isn't usually spread evenly across months. Instead, they may withhold full months of benefits until the excess amount is accounted for. 5. While SSA doesn't have real-time access to your earnings data, they do recalculate after year-end. This is why proactive self-reporting helps prevent surprising overpayment notices. 6. Remember that at FRA, your benefit will be recalculated to give you credit for months when benefits were withheld due to excess earnings. If you're unsure about your specific situation, I recommend scheduling an appointment with your local SSA office to discuss your work plans.
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StarSeeker
•Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! I think I'll definitely file that SSA-131 form when I start working in October. Better to be proactive than deal with surprises later. And I'll make sure to track my earnings carefully each month to stay under the limits.
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Keisha Williams
my cousin had this problem last yr. he just didnt report the extra income and it was fine lol. its not like ssa and irs talk to each other that much
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NebulaNova
•This is absolutely incorrect and potentially harmful advice. The SSA and IRS absolutely do share information, and the SSA receives wage data from the IRS after tax filing. Failing to report income can result in significant overpayment notices, penalties, and even fraud investigations in serious cases. Please do not suggest that beneficiaries should hide income from Social Security.
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Keisha Williams
•ok whatever just saying what worked for my cousin. but ur prolly right mr know-it-all
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Connor Murphy
I'm confused about something... if you're going over the limit in 2025 but they don't find out until 2026 when you file taxes, do they make you pay back the whole amount at once? Seems really unfair if you didn't know you were going over!
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Miguel Ortiz
•When I got my overpayment notice, they gave me options - pay it all back at once, have them withhold future payments until it's paid off, or set up a monthly payment plan. You can also request a waiver if it would cause hardship. But definitely try to avoid the situation entirely by keeping good records of your earnings throughout the year.
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StarSeeker
Thanks everyone for all these helpful responses! Based on what I'm hearing, I think my best plan is to: 1. File the SSA-131 form when I start working in October to notify them 2. Keep VERY careful records of my hours and earnings 3. Stay well under the limit to provide a safety buffer 4. Perhaps check in with SSA midway through 2025 (using that Claimyr service if needed to avoid long wait times) I appreciate all the advice and personal experiences. It's given me a much better understanding of how this works. I'm still a bit nervous about potential payment disruptions, but at least now I know what to expect and how to be proactive!
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