Social Security timing question: Filing at 66 vs. FRA in April 2025 - working with employer insurance
My husband wants to file for Social Security retirement in January 2025, but his Full Retirement Age isn't until April 2025. I checked the benefit estimator and it shows he'd get about $200 less monthly if he files in January instead of waiting until April. So I think I'm answering my own question - he should probably just wait those extra 3 months, right? I'm also confused about Medicare requirements. He's working full-time with health insurance through his employer (company has over 20 employees). Does he HAVE to enroll in Medicare when he starts collecting Social Security? Can he keep his work insurance? And what about income limits? Once he reaches FRA in April, can he earn as much as he wants without any reduction in benefits? Or are there still earnings limits after FRA? This whole system feels like a complicated maze! Thanks for any guidance.
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Elijah O'Reilly
You're right to question this. Filing in January 2025 when his FRA is April 2025 means he'd be filing 3 months early, resulting in a permanent reduction of about 1.7% (roughly 0.56% per month). If that translates to $200 less per month as you calculated, waiting those three months makes financial sense unless there's an urgent need for the income. Regarding Medicare - good news! He does NOT have to take Medicare when he starts collecting Social Security if he has creditable employer coverage from a company with more than 20 employees. He can delay Medicare enrollment without penalty until he stops working or loses that coverage. As for earnings limits, once he reaches his FRA in April 2025, there will be NO earnings limit. Before FRA, in 2025 the earnings limit will likely be around $22,500 (the 2024 limit is $21,240 plus COLA). Exceeding this before his FRA would reduce benefits by $1 for every $2 over the limit.
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Natalie Adams
•Thank you so much! That makes perfect sense about the reduction. I didn't realize it was permanent - definitely worth waiting those 3 months. So relieved about the Medicare situation. His work insurance has better coverage than Medicare would for some of his medications. One more question - during those 3 months (Jan-March) before he reaches FRA, would the earnings limit apply? He makes about $75,000 annually, so that would definitely be over the limit.
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Amara Torres
My husband did this exact thing last year!!! Filed 2 months b4 his FRA because we needed $$ for a new roof. BIG MISTAKE!!!! That reduction is FOREVER and it adds up over time. If u can wait the 3 months DO IT!!!!!
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Olivia Van-Cleve
•Same here but it was 4 months early for me. That $180 less every month doesn't seem like much until you multiply it by 12 months and then by 20+ years! I should've just put it on a credit card and waited.
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Mason Kaczka
To answer your follow-up question about the earnings limit during those 3 months: Yes, the earnings limit would apply from January-March 2025 since he hasn't reached FRA yet. With an annual salary of $75,000, that's about $18,750 for that quarter, which exceeds the likely monthly limit. However, there's a special rule for the calendar year in which your husband reaches FRA. Only earnings before the month he reaches FRA count toward the limit, and the limit is higher (about $59,520 for 2025 based on 2024's $56,520 plus estimated COLA). Also, benefits are only reduced $1 for every $3 over the limit during this period. So if he files in January, only his Jan-March earnings count toward this higher limit, and would result in some withholding. But once he reaches FRA in April, benefits would be recalculated to credit back those months of reductions over time.
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Natalie Adams
•This is incredibly helpful! So would you recommend: 1. Wait until April and file at exact FRA to avoid both the permanent reduction AND any earnings limit issues 2. OR file in January but understand some benefits might be withheld until April (but eventually paid back)? Is there any advantage to filing early if he's still working full-time with good income?
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Sophia Russo
I was in a similar situation and chose to wait until my exact FRA. Those few months went by quicker than I expected, and knowing I'm getting my full benefit amount forever gives me peace of mind. The permanent reduction might not seem like much now, but it adds up over decades of retirement. Re: Medicare - not having to enroll if he has employer coverage is a huge benefit many folks don't realize. Make sure he keeps documentation of his continuous employer coverage for when he does eventually enroll in Medicare to avoid any questions about late enrollment penalties. For the earnings limit question, while technically there's a special rule in the year you reach FRA, why deal with the hassle of withholding and recalculation if waiting just 3 months avoids it entirely? Simple is often better when dealing with SSA!
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Evelyn Xu
•Yup just wait the 3 months! My neighbor filed 5 months early and regrets it every time we talk about our ss checks lol
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Dominic Green
Has anyone actually tried calling the SS office about this lately? I've been calling for THREE WEEKS trying to get answers about a similar situation. Either constant busy signals or disconnected after 45+ minutes on hold. Their website is impossible to navigate, and the closest office is 50 miles away with no appointments available for months. This system is BROKEN.
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Mason Kaczka
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Natalie Adams
After all this great advice, I think we're going to wait until April for my husband to file at his exact FRA. The permanent $200 reduction just isn't worth it, especially since he's still working full-time and doesn't need the SS income immediately. It's a relief to know he can keep his employer health insurance and delay Medicare enrollment without penalties. One less thing to worry about! Thank you all so much for helping me understand these complicated rules. I feel much more confident about our plan now.
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Elijah O'Reilly
•That sounds like the most straightforward approach given your circumstances. Just make sure he creates a my Social Security account online (if he hasn't already) at ssa.gov to verify his earnings record is correct before April. It's much easier to address any discrepancies before filing. Also worth noting - when he does decide to apply, he can do so up to 4 months before he wants benefits to begin. So he could apply as early as December 2024 for benefits to start April 2025.
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Amara Torres
My husband was in this EXACT situation!!! His bday is in March but he waited till June to file (FRA) because we heard horror stories about the SSA messing up people's payment amounts when they file right at their birthday month! So we waited a few extra months just to be safe. Dunno if thats really necessary but we didnt want any mistakes!!!!
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Olivia Van-Cleve
•Smart move. My cousin filed exactly on his birthday month and SSA somehow calculated his first check wrong. Took 5 months to fix! Sometimes the extra caution pays off. The system makes so many mistakes.
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Elijah O'Reilly
One other thing to consider - since your husband is still working at a good salary, his Social Security benefit amount might actually increase slightly if his current earnings are higher than some earlier years in his earnings record. SSA uses the highest 35 years of indexed earnings to calculate benefits. This is especially true if he had any years with low earnings or gaps in his work history. Each additional high-earning year can bump out a lower year in the calculation. So waiting those extra months could potentially increase his benefit by more than just avoiding the early filing reduction.
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Natalie Adams
•I hadn't even thought about this aspect! His current salary is definitely higher than what he made 30+ years ago, even adjusted for inflation. This is yet another reason to wait. Thank you for pointing this out!
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