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I just retired at 63 and started collecting Social Security retirement benefits, but I'm concerned about a deferred compensation arrangement with my former employer. I'll be receiving $48,000 annually over the next 10 years from a non-qualified deferred comp plan I participated in. This isn't a 401k or pension - it's basically salary they're paying me later in scheduled installments. Does Social Security consider this earned income under the earnings test? I'm way below my full retirement age and know the limit is around $22,320 for 2025. If these payments count, I'll lose a big chunk of my SS benefits until I reach my FRA at 67. I've called SSA three times and gotten three completely different answers! One rep said it doesn't count since I'm not actively working, another said it definitely counts because it's compensation, and the third suggested I talk to a tax advisor. My HR department wasn't helpful either. Anyone dealt with deferred compensation and the SS earnings limit? What was your experience?
I'm retiring next month (finally!) and setting up my direct deposit for Social Security. The form asks if I want my monthly benefits to go into a checking or savings account. Is one better than the other? I've always kept my savings separate from regular spending, but wondering if there's any advantage either way for SS benefits specifically. Do most people use checking accounts? Are there any fees or restrictions I should know about? Thanks for any insights!
One additional consideration: if you're receiving both Social Security retirement benefits and a pension or other regular income, using separate accounts can help with budgeting and tax preparation. Some people find it useful to have SS benefits go to one account exclusively for fixed expenses (housing, utilities, insurance) while other income sources fund discretionary spending. This approach can provide peace of mind knowing your essentials are covered by your guaranteed lifetime benefits.
Congratulations on your upcoming retirement! I've been on Social Security for about 5 years now and definitely recommend going with a checking account. The main reasons are convenience and flexibility - you'll likely be using those funds for monthly expenses like groceries, utilities, and other bills, so having them in checking makes everything much easier. One tip I wish someone had told me: set up online banking if you haven't already. Being able to monitor when your deposit hits and track your spending is really helpful, especially in those first few months when you're adjusting to your new budget. Also, some banks offer senior discounts or perks for Social Security recipients, so it's worth asking about those when you set up your account. Best of luck with your retirement - you've earned it!
I'm trying to figure out the whole spousal benefit situation and it's making my head spin! I'm 59 and my husband is 56. I spent most of my working years as a stay-at-home mom raising our four wonderful (but expensive!) children, only working part-time jobs here and there. My Social Security statement shows I'd only get about $425 per month at my full retirement age (67). My husband has worked consistently and will get around $2,800 at his FRA.Here's what I'm confused about - WHEN can I actually start getting the spousal benefit? Do I have to wait until my husband reaches his full retirement age? Or can I claim it when I reach my FRA, even though he's younger? I know I'd get 50% of his benefit which would be WAY better than my tiny $425. Also, does he actually have to file for his benefits before I can get the spousal amount? I want to maximize what we get but this timing stuff is confusing me!
This has been such an incredibly helpful thread! I'm 61 with a 58-year-old husband, so I'm right in the middle of trying to figure out this exact situation. Reading everyone's real-world experiences has been way more valuable than trying to decipher the SSA website on my own. What really stands out to me from all these responses is that there truly isn't a "perfect" strategy - it's all about weighing your current needs against future benefits and your personal risk tolerance. The break-even analysis approach that several people mentioned sounds like the most logical way to make this decision rather than getting paralyzed trying to optimize every last dollar. I'm definitely going to try that Claimyr service to get through to SSA and get specific projections for our situation. The $19 seems like a bargain compared to the hours I've already spent on hold getting disconnected! And I love the idea of asking for a written summary of the scenarios they discuss. One question for those who have already made this decision: how much weight did you give to your spouse's health and job situation when deciding on timing? My husband has a physically demanding job and some health issues, so I'm wondering if that should factor into whether we have him file early at 62 versus waiting for his FRA. Thanks everyone for sharing your knowledge and experiences - this community is amazing!
Health and job situation are absolutely crucial factors that I think sometimes get overlooked in all the number-crunching! In your husband's case, having a physically demanding job with health issues definitely tips the scales toward filing earlier rather than later. My brother-in-law was in a similar situation - he's a construction worker with back problems and diabetes. Even though the math showed they'd get more money by waiting until his FRA, they decided to have him file at 62 because there was real uncertainty about whether he could keep working until 67. Better to get the reduced benefits for sure than risk not being able to work and having no income at all. Also consider that if his health issues worsen and he becomes unable to work before 62, you'd both be in a really tough spot financially. At least if he files at 62, you'd have both his reduced retirement benefit and your spousal benefit coming in. One other thing - if his physical job is affecting his health, he might want to look into whether he'd qualify for disability benefits before 62. That could potentially give you access to benefits even sooner, though the disability process can be lengthy and uncertain. It sounds like you're being really thoughtful about all the factors involved. Sometimes the "safe" choice of getting benefits sooner is better than the "optimal" choice that assumes everything goes perfectly for several more years.
I'm 54 and my husband is 50, so we're still a few years away from these decisions, but this thread has been absolutely invaluable for understanding what's ahead! Reading everyone's real experiences has made this so much clearer than trying to navigate the SSA website alone. What really stands out to me is how much the "human factors" matter beyond just the math - things like health, job demands, financial stress tolerance, and peace of mind. I think it's easy to get caught up in trying to find the mathematically perfect solution and forget that life doesn't always cooperate with our optimization plans. The timeline/spreadsheet approach that several people mentioned sounds like the way to go. I'm going to start tracking different scenarios now while we still have time to plan. It's also reassuring to hear from people who chose the "bird in the hand" approach and don't regret it - sometimes guaranteed income sooner really is better than theoretical maximum benefits later. One thing I'm curious about - for those who used Claimyr to get through to SSA, did you find the representatives were able to answer complex spousal benefit timing questions, or do you need to specifically ask for someone with expertise in that area? I want to make sure I get accurate information when I eventually call. Thanks to everyone for sharing such detailed experiences! This community is such a valuable resource for navigating these complicated decisions.
Welcome to the community! You're starting your planning at exactly the right time - having several years to understand these rules and run different scenarios is such an advantage. I'm 53 with a 51-year-old spouse, so we're in a very similar timeline to yours. Regarding your question about Claimyr and SSA representatives - from what I've read in this thread, it seems like the regular SSA reps can handle spousal benefit questions pretty well, especially if you come prepared with both spouses' Social Security numbers and your earnings records. The key seems to be asking them to run specific scenarios with actual dollar amounts rather than just asking general questions about the rules. You're absolutely right about the human factors being so important! This thread has really opened my eyes to how much personal circumstances should weigh into the decision beyond just maximizing dollars. The peace of mind factor that several people mentioned really resonates with me - there's real value in reducing financial uncertainty even if it means leaving some money on the table mathematically. Starting the spreadsheet planning now is brilliant. I'm going to do the same thing and track how our thinking evolves as we get closer to decision time. It's so helpful to have this community sharing real-world experiences instead of just trying to decipher government websites!
Getting ready to file for Social Security next year (turning 62 in April 2025) and trying to understand the rules about my children's benefits. I have two daughters (ages 8 and 9) who'll qualify for benefits on my record. I've confirmed with SSA that we'll get approximately $750/month for each child on top of my retirement benefit. What's confusing me is how I'm supposed to handle these payments. Someone told me I MUST set up separate bank accounts for each child and have their benefits direct deposited there, or I could get in serious trouble. They said if I don't document every penny spent on the kids, the SSA will demand all the money back when they turn 18? Is this true? Do I really need separate accounts? And what kind of records am I supposed to keep about how the money is spent? The SSA website isn't very clear about this. If anyone has experience with receiving child benefits while collecting retirement, I'd really appreciate your insights!
Thank you everyone for the helpful responses! Based on all your advice, I'm going to: 1. Set up separate accounts for each child's benefits (seems like the safest approach) 2. Keep basic records of how the money is spent on their needs 3. Make sure I understand the annual reporting requirements It sounds like there's some variation in how strictly different SSA offices enforce things, so I'll err on the side of caution. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences!
Smart decision on setting up the separate accounts! Just wanted to add one more tip that helped me - when you open those representative payee accounts, make sure the bank understands they're for Social Security benefits. Some banks have special account types or will waive fees for representative payee accounts. Also, I found it helpful to set up automatic transfers for a fixed amount each month to cover the kids' portion of household expenses (like their share of rent, utilities, groceries). This makes the record-keeping much simpler when it's time to fill out that annual form. You can show clear, consistent use of funds for their basic needs. The fact that you're being proactive about this shows you'll do fine as a representative payee. Good luck with your retirement filing next year!
I'm helping my uncle apply for SSI and we're confused about what counts as a resource. He owns a cemetery plot that he purchased years ago (thinking ahead I guess). The plot cost about $4,500 back then and is probably worth more now. Will SSA count this against his $2,000 resource limit? He's really struggling financially and I'm worried this might disqualify him. He also has about $1,700 in savings and an old car worth maybe $3,000. Does anyone know if cemetery plots are exempt? The SSA website is so confusing about what counts and what doesn't.
Has anyone here tried calling the SSA directly about resource questions? I spent 3 hours on hold last week trying to get a straight answer about my mom's life insurance policy and never got through. So frustrating!
I've had good luck using Claimyr to get through to SSA without the horrible wait times. I was skeptical at first, but it worked great - they call SSA and then call you when they reach a representative. Saved me hours of waiting on hold. You can see how it works at claimyr.com or check out their video demo at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU
This is really helpful information! I'm dealing with a similar situation with my mom's SSI application. She has a prepaid burial plan that cost around $8,000 - does anyone know if that's treated the same way as cemetery plots? I'm worried because it's a lot more money than just the plot itself. The funeral home has all the paperwork but I'm not sure if SSA will see it as a resource or if it's excluded like the burial plots everyone is talking about.
Yara Campbell
UPDATE: I visited my local SSA office with all my paperwork today. The claims specialist reviewed my deferred comp agreement and confirmed that since the payments are for PAST services (with only minimal transition assistance), they do NOT count toward the earnings test! She explained that the key factors were: 1. The payments would continue even if I provided no transition assistance 2. The payments are for work already performed 3. The agreement clearly shows no correlation between current services and payment amounts She gave me a written statement for my records. What a relief! Thanks everyone for your help with this confusing issue.
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Isaac Wright
That's excellent news! Smart move getting that written statement too. Make sure to keep it with your important papers in case this ever comes up during a future review. Thanks for updating us - this information will help others in similar situations.
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Isabella Santos
Congratulations on getting this resolved! Your experience highlights exactly why it's so important to get a formal determination rather than relying on phone advice. The fact that you got three different answers from SSA phone reps but a clear, definitive answer from the local office specialist really shows the value of bringing documentation in person. Your case is a perfect example for others - the key factors the specialist mentioned (payments continuing regardless of transition help, compensation for past work, no correlation between current services and payment amounts) are exactly what SSA looks for when making these determinations. Thanks for taking the time to update everyone with the outcome. This thread will be really helpful for future community members dealing with similar deferred compensation questions!
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