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I'm glad I found this discussion! I'm 58 and widowed for three years now, so I'm in a similar planning phase. Reading through everyone's experiences has been so helpful, especially learning about the flexibility to switch between survivor and retirement benefits - that's a game-changer I never knew about. One thing I wanted to mention that might help others is that if you're still working and considering the earnings test, don't forget that the limit applies to your gross wages, not your take-home pay. I made the mistake of calculating based on my net income at first and got confused about whether I'd be over the limit. Also, for anyone dealing with the challenge of getting through to SSA - I had success calling right when they opened at 8 AM on Wednesdays. Seemed to be the least busy time in my experience. The representative I spoke with was incredibly patient and walked me through multiple scenarios for claiming strategies. Jessica, your situation with the VA benefits plus pension sounds very manageable based on what everyone's shared. The fact that your pension is from SS-covered employment really simplifies things. Best of luck with your planning!

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Thank you so much for the tip about calling at 8 AM on Wednesdays - I'm definitely going to try that! And you're absolutely right about the earnings test applying to gross wages. It's these kinds of details that can really trip you up if you don't know about them ahead of time. I'm feeling so much more prepared after reading everyone's experiences here. It's incredible how much practical knowledge this community has shared. I really appreciate you taking the time to add your insights!

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I wanted to add one more consideration that might be helpful - if you're planning to claim survivor benefits at 60 while also receiving your VA benefits and pension, make sure you understand how this might affect your taxes. While the VA benefits are tax-free, both your Social Security survivor benefits and your pension will likely be taxable income. Depending on your total income, up to 85% of your Social Security benefits could be subject to federal taxes. It might be worth consulting with a tax professional as you get closer to retirement to plan for the tax implications of having multiple income streams. Some people are surprised when they start receiving benefits and find their tax burden is higher than expected. Just something to factor into your overall retirement planning! Also, I want to echo what others have said about checking your earnings record on the SSA website. I found an error from 15 years ago that took several months to correct, so it's definitely worth doing this sooner rather than later.

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That's such an important point about the tax implications! I hadn't really thought about how having multiple income streams might push me into a higher tax bracket or affect the taxation of my Social Security benefits. It's definitely something I need to factor into my planning, especially since I'll be going from just VA benefits now to potentially VA + pension + survivor benefits. I'll make sure to consult with a tax professional before I make any final decisions about when to claim. Thanks for bringing up that angle - it's easy to focus on just getting the benefits and forget about the tax consequences!

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Thank you all for the helpful information! I've learned a lot. To summarize what I understand now: 1. My current wife gets 50% of my benefit at her FRA (if that's more than her own benefit) 2. She'd get 100% survivor benefits after I pass away 3. My ex-wife can't claim on my record since she remarried I'll try using that Claimyr service to confirm these details directly with SSA. It's frustrating how difficult it is to reach them by phone these days.

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You've got it exactly right! Just one small clarification on point #1 - your wife will receive the higher of either her own Social Security benefit OR 50% of yours, but not both added together. So if her own benefit ends up being $1,200 and 50% of yours would be $1,500, she'd get the $1,500 spousal benefit. Also, since you mentioned you're delaying past your FRA until 69, those delayed retirement credits will increase your benefit amount, which means your wife's spousal benefit calculation (50% of your Primary Insurance Amount) and eventual survivor benefits will be based on your higher delayed amount. Good planning on your part! Hope the Claimyr service works out better for you than the regular SSA phone lines. Getting official confirmation is always wise with these complex situations.

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This is really helpful information! I'm new to understanding Social Security benefits and this thread has been incredibly educational. Quick question - when you mention "Primary Insurance Amount" vs the delayed retirement credits, does that mean the spousal benefit stays at 50% of the original PIA even if the worker delays, but survivor benefits get the full delayed amount? Or do both get calculated from the higher delayed amount?

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This entire discussion has been incredibly valuable - thank you all for sharing such detailed insights! As someone approaching a similar decision, I'm struck by how this conversation has evolved from a simple "claim early vs. wait" question into a comprehensive strategy discussion. The key takeaways that resonate most with me are: 1) Getting your actual SSA earnings record is crucial for understanding the real impact of those zero years, 2) The healthcare consulting market has genuinely expanded in ways that could make part-time work much more appealing than traditional employment, and 3) The "test drive" approach of claiming at 62 while exploring strategic part-time work preserves multiple options. For others following this thread, I'd add that the SSA's online calculators have become much more sophisticated recently - they can model different claiming ages and earnings scenarios in ways that weren't available even a few years ago. Also worth noting that many financial advisors now specialize specifically in Social Security optimization strategies, which can be worth the consultation fee given the lifetime value of these decisions. Brooklyn, your situation seems particularly well-suited to the hybrid approach that emerged from this discussion. With your healthcare expertise, recent high earnings, and 3-month planning window, you have all the elements needed to make this work strategically rather than reactively. Best of luck with whatever path you choose!

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Thank you for this excellent summary! As someone new to this community but facing similar retirement timing questions, this thread has been incredibly educational. I'm particularly impressed by how the discussion evolved from the original question into such a comprehensive exploration of strategies. The point about SSA's improved online calculators is especially helpful - I didn't realize they had become more sophisticated for modeling different scenarios. And you're absolutely right that the "test drive" approach seems perfect for Brooklyn's situation, but really for anyone who has valuable professional skills that could translate to consulting work. One thing I'd add for others reading this: the healthcare field seems uniquely positioned for this type of strategic approach because of the high demand for experienced professionals in remote/consulting roles. Other professions might not have the same flexibility, so the specific strategies discussed here might need adaptation depending on your field. It's also reassuring to see how supportive and knowledgeable this community is. Making these major financial decisions can feel overwhelming when you're trying to figure it out alone, but having access to people who've actually been through similar situations makes such a difference. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion!

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As a newcomer to this community, I've been following this discussion with great interest since I'm also approaching 62 and facing similar decisions about when to claim Social Security benefits. What I find most valuable about this thread is how it's demonstrated that there isn't a one-size-fits-all answer to the claiming question. Brooklyn's situation really highlights how personal circumstances - healthcare background, burnout issues, specific earnings history with those zero years, family longevity, and current financial needs - all factor into what becomes a very individualized strategy. The evolution from "claim early vs. wait" to exploring hybrid approaches like the "test drive" strategy has been eye-opening. I hadn't considered that claiming at 62 while pursuing strategic part-time work could actually optimize both immediate security and long-term benefits, especially with the option to suspend at FRA if circumstances change. For those of us in professional fields with consulting potential, this discussion has really illuminated opportunities I wasn't aware of. The specific suggestions about telehealth platforms, medical writing, and utilization review work show there are legitimate paths to meaningful part-time income that could work well with Social Security optimization strategies. Thank you all for such a thorough and practical exploration of these options. This is exactly the kind of real-world guidance that's so hard to find elsewhere!

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I'm completely new to this community and just discovered this thread while researching Social Security filing options. I'm 62 and was about to call my local SSA office, but after reading through all these experiences, I'm convinced I should skip that call and go straight to online filing! The pattern of misinformation from SSA offices documented here is really alarming - so many people getting told that online applications go to "separate systems," take months longer, or get "lost" somewhere. But the real user experiences are incredibly consistent: 3-4 week approvals with online filing versus months-long waits just to get phone appointments scheduled. What really convinced me were the specific timelines people shared - @Freya Andersen's 23-day approval, @Zoe Dimitriou's 19-day approval, and multiple others reporting similar fast processing times with online filing. Meanwhile, people are being told to wait until February, March, or even later for phone appointments! The dual strategy everyone has recommended (file online + keep backup phone appointment) is brilliant, though based on all these success stories, the backup probably won't be needed. The convenience of filing online at your own pace without feeling rushed is such a huge advantage too. I'm planning to start my online application this weekend. Thank you to everyone who shared their real experiences - this community knowledge has been far more helpful and accurate than anything I could have gotten from calling the SSA office directly!

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I'm new to this community and this thread has been absolutely eye-opening! I'm 66 and just reached full retirement age, so I was planning to call my local SSA office to start the filing process. But after reading through everyone's experiences here, I'm shocked at how widespread the misinformation from SSA offices seems to be. The pattern is so clear - office after office telling people that online applications go to "separate processing centers," take months longer, or get "lost in the system." But the real experiences from community members consistently show 3-4 week approvals with online filing! The contrast is just staggering. What really convinced me were all the specific timelines people shared: @Freya Andersen's 23-day approval, @Zoe Dimitriou's 19-day approval, @StellarSurfer's 3-week timeline, and so many others. Meanwhile, people are being told to wait until February, March, or later just to get phone appointments scheduled. The dual strategy everyone has recommended (file online while keeping a backup phone appointment) makes perfect sense. Though honestly, based on all the evidence here, it seems like online filing is not just faster but also more reliable and convenient than dealing with appointment scheduling and potential rescheduling. At full retirement age, my case should be straightforward, so I'm definitely going with online filing this weekend. Thank you to everyone who shared their real experiences - this community knowledge has been invaluable for helping newcomers like me avoid the confusion and delays that seem to come from relying on official SSA office advice!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation (planning to file for widow benefits at 62 next year) and had no idea about the monthly earnings test for the first year. A few quick tips from my own research and experience with my late husband's benefits: - When you call SSA, ask to speak with a "claims specialist" rather than just any representative. They tend to be more knowledgeable about complex situations like widow benefits with earnings. - Document EVERYTHING in writing. I keep a log of every SSA interaction with date, time, rep name/ID, and what was discussed. - The Form SSA-131 mentioned by Luca is crucial! My sister had a similar vacation payout issue and that form resolved it completely. @Sean - your benefit strategy sounds smart given those amounts. Just make sure you understand that once you switch to your own benefit at 70, you can't go back to the widow benefit even if yours ends up being lower than expected. Good luck navigating this maze! The SSA system is confusing but this community really helps clarify things.

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This is such valuable advice, thank you! I didn't know I could specifically ask for a claims specialist - that might explain why I got such inconsistent answers from different reps. And you're absolutely right about documenting everything. I've been trusting verbal responses too much. One question about the benefit switching strategy - when you say I can't go back to widow benefits after switching to my own at 70, does that apply even if my circumstances change (like if there are cost-of-living adjustments that affect the relative amounts)? I want to make sure I fully understand this before I commit to the plan. The Form SSA-131 seems like it could be the key to avoiding problems with my vacation payout. I'll contact HR tomorrow to get that process started.

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I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation! Starting widow benefits at 62 next month and was so confused about the earnings test. This thread has been a lifesaver. Just wanted to add one thing I learned from my financial advisor - make sure you also consider the impact of Medicare premiums when you're calculating your net benefit amounts. Since widow benefits count as income, they can affect your Medicare Part B and Part D premiums through IRMAA (Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amount) once you're eligible for Medicare. Also, @Sean, regarding your vacation payout - I had a similar issue and my employer's payroll department was actually really helpful in explaining how they could code different types of final payments. Don't hesitate to ask HR specifically about Form SSA-131 and whether they can classify your vacation time as "special wage payments" for work performed in previous periods. The monthly earnings test really is a game-changer for first-year retirees. I wish SSA made this clearer in their materials instead of making us dig for this information!

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