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Luca Marino

PA UC sent approval letter then disqualification email one week later - What's happening?

I'm completely thrown for a loop right now. Last Thursday I received an official determination letter saying I qualify for PA unemployment benefits (even listed my weekly benefit amount as $487). I was so relieved! Then today, exactly 7 days later, I get this email notification saying I'm DISQUALIFIED for benefits. No explanation, no details on what changed. I've checked my dashboard and it shows both determinations - the approval AND the disqualification. Has the system glitched? Did they make a mistake? I was counting on this money since I was laid off from my hospital admin job last month. Anyone else dealt with contradicting determinations like this? I'm panicking!

Nia Davis

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This happens more often than you'd think. You likely have two separate issues being decided. The first determination was probably about whether you have enough wages/hours to qualify monetarily. The second determination might be about the reason you separated from your job. Check if the disqualification mentions anything about 'voluntary quit' or 'misconduct' - these are non-monetary eligibility factors. You should be able to see both determinations in your dashboard with different issue IDs.

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Luca Marino

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Ohhhh that might be it! The approval letter definitely mentioned my wages qualified me. Looking closer at the disqualification, it does mention something about 'discharge' - but I was laid off in a department reorganization, not fired for cause! How do I fix this misunderstanding?

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Mateo Perez

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same thing happend to me!! first they say yes then they say no its like they dont even know what there doing. the whole system is a joke.

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Luca Marino

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It's so frustrating! Have you been able to get it resolved? I can't figure out who to even talk to about this.

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Aisha Rahman

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You need to file an appeal ASAP. You only have 15 days from the date on that disqualification determination to submit your appeal. Don't wait. Even if this is a mistake that could be fixed with a phone call, the appeal preserves your rights. You can withdraw it later if the issue gets resolved another way. When you file the appeal, include any documentation showing the layoff was due to reorganization - termination letters, emails about the reorg, anything official. If your employer told unemployment you were discharged for cause rather than laid off, that's likely the problem.

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Luca Marino

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Thank you so much for this advice. I'll start the appeal today. I do have the official layoff letter that specifically mentions the reorganization affected 12 positions including mine. Should I upload that with the appeal?

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Aisha Rahman

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Yes, definitely upload that letter with your appeal! That's exactly the kind of evidence that helps win these cases. Also include any other documentation that shows it was a departmental reorganization rather than performance-related. Make copies of everything for yourself too.

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Ethan Brown

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Yuki Yamamoto

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THEY DO THIS ON PURPOSE!!!! The system is DESIGNED to reject as many claims as possible. They approve you then disqualify hoping you'll just give up and not appeal. I've been through this NIGHTMARE three times in the last five years. Each time I appealed and won but it took MONTHS to get my money. Meanwhile I almost lost my apartment waiting. The PA UC system is BROKEN BY DESIGN. They don't want to pay benefits they're obligated to pay!!!!!

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Carmen Ortiz

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This is actually true. My cousin works for a state agency (not UC) and says they have crazy rejection quotas they have to meet. The whole system is rigged against workers.

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Nia Davis

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While the system definitely has problems, there's no evidence of quotas or intentional rejections. These contradicting determinations are usually because different issues are being reviewed separately by different examiners who don't necessarily coordinate. It's inefficient bureaucracy, not conspiracy.

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Carmen Ortiz

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check ur correspondence section real careful and see if the disqualification letter gives the specific reason. sometimes they use weird codes or technical language thats hard to understand but explains why they disqualified u. my letter had section 402(b) which means they thought i quit but i was actually laid off. i had to appeal too.

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Luca Marino

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You're right - just found the code on my determination. It says Section 402(e) which I guess means misconduct? But there was no misconduct, I was part of a department-wide layoff! This is so frustrating.

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Aisha Rahman

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Yes, 402(e) is the misconduct section. Your employer likely reported your separation incorrectly. This happens a lot with large companies where HR doesn't properly code terminations in their system. Definitely appeal and bring your layoff documentation to the hearing. These kinds of errors get corrected once you have actual humans reviewing your specific evidence.

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Ethan Brown

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when my brother got laid off from the amazon warehouse last year he got same thing happening. turns out they approved him for regular benefits but then disqualified him because they thought he should be on some other type of claim. took him forever to get it fixed.

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Luca Marino

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How long did it take your brother to get it resolved? I'm worried about how long I'll be without income.

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Ethan Brown

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like 5 or 6 weeks i think? but he got all the back pay once it was fixed

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Nia Davis

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One last piece of advice - while your appeal is pending, CONTINUE TO FILE YOUR WEEKLY CLAIMS even though you won't get paid right away. If you win your appeal, they can only pay you for weeks you properly certified. I've seen too many people miss out on back payments because they stopped filing during the appeal process.

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Luca Marino

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Oh! I wouldn't have known to do this. Thank you so much for mentioning it. I'll definitely keep filing my weekly claims while waiting for the appeal hearing.

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Mateo Perez

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this is the most important advice right here!! my roomate lost out on 7 weeks of payments cuz she didnt know to keep filing while appealing. dont make that mistake!!!

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This exact same thing happened to me about 6 months ago! Got the approval letter on a Friday, then the disqualification email the following Tuesday. I was so confused and stressed out. Turns out my former employer had initially reported it as a layoff but then filed some kind of correction saying it was a discharge. The UC office explained that they process these determinations separately - one team handles the monetary eligibility (your wages/hours) and another handles the separation reason. The timing of when they get employer responses can cause this confusing back-and-forth. Definitely appeal like others said, but also try calling early morning (like 8:01 AM) - that's when I finally got through. Took about 3 weeks total to resolve but I got all my back pay. Hang in there!

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Grace Lee

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I'm going through something similar right now and this thread has been incredibly helpful! Just wanted to add that when you call UC, if you can't get through on the main number, try calling the employer services line and explaining your situation - sometimes they can transfer you to someone who can help. Also, make sure to screenshot or print everything from your dashboard showing both determinations. I learned this the hard way when some of my correspondence mysteriously "disappeared" from my account during my appeal process. Having those screenshots saved me. Good luck with your appeal - from what I'm reading here, it sounds like you have a strong case since you have the layoff documentation!

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Aisha Patel

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Thanks for the tip about calling the employer services line! I never would have thought to try that. And definitely taking screenshots of everything now - can't believe correspondence can just disappear like that. This whole situation is making me realize how broken the system is, but at least knowing others have gone through this and won their appeals gives me hope. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here!

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Nia Thompson

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I work as a paralegal for an employment law firm and see these dual determination cases frequently. What likely happened is your employer initially reported your separation as a "layoff" but then filed a correction or provided additional information suggesting misconduct or discharge for cause. The Section 402(e) code you mentioned confirms this - it's specifically for misconduct disqualifications. The good news is these employer corrections are often inaccurate, especially with large companies using automated HR systems. Your layoff letter mentioning the 12-position reorganization is excellent evidence. When you file your appeal, also request a copy of what your employer submitted to UC that caused the disqualification - you're entitled to see their response. Often these employer statements contain obvious errors or contradictions that make the appeal straightforward to win. Don't let this discourage you - I'd say 70% of the layoff cases I've seen that got misclassified as misconduct are eventually overturned on appeal.

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This is incredibly reassuring to hear from someone who works with these cases professionally! I had no idea I could request to see what my employer submitted - that's really valuable information. It makes sense that a large hospital system might have automated HR processes that could easily miscategorize a departmental reorganization as misconduct. I'm feeling much more confident about filing this appeal now, especially knowing that 70% of similar cases get overturned. Thank you for taking the time to share your professional insight - it's exactly what I needed to hear right now!

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Oliver Cheng

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I went through almost the exact same situation last year after being laid off from my marketing job. Got the approval letter with my benefit amount ($431/week), then 6 days later got the disqualification notice. I was panicking just like you are now! What helped me was understanding that these really are two separate determinations happening - one for your wage/work history eligibility, and another for your separation reason. In my case, my employer had initially reported it correctly as a layoff, but then their corporate office filed some kind of amended response claiming job abandonment (which was completely false). I filed my appeal within the 15-day window and included all my documentation - layoff notice, final paycheck stub showing "reduction in force" as the reason, even emails from my supervisor about the company downsizing. The hearing was actually pretty straightforward once I had a real person reviewing my evidence instead of just automated system decisions. The whole process took about 5 weeks from appeal to resolution, but I got every penny of back pay for those weeks. Keep filing your weekly claims during the appeal process - that's crucial! And definitely take screenshots of everything in your dashboard right now in case anything goes missing. You've got solid evidence with that reorganization letter mentioning 12 positions being eliminated. This sounds like a clear employer reporting error that should get resolved in your favor. Stay strong!

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KhalilStar

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Thank you so much for sharing your detailed experience, Oliver! It's incredibly helpful to hear from someone who went through almost the exact same situation. The fact that your employer also filed an amended response with false information makes me feel less alone in this. I'm definitely going to follow your advice about taking screenshots of everything right now - I hadn't thought about documentation potentially going missing, but after reading Grace's comment about correspondence disappearing, I'm not taking any chances. Your timeline of 5 weeks gives me a realistic expectation, and knowing you got all your back pay is really encouraging. I'm going to file my appeal today and make sure to keep certifying weekly. Really appreciate you taking the time to share such a thorough account of your experience!

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I'm so sorry you're going through this stress - the uncertainty is the worst part! Based on everyone's advice here, it sounds like you have a really strong case for your appeal. That reorganization letter mentioning 12 positions is gold - it clearly shows this was a legitimate layoff, not misconduct. I've been reading through unemployment forums for months while dealing with my own claim issues, and the pattern everyone's describing (approval then quick disqualification due to employer reporting errors) is unfortunately super common with large employers like hospitals. Their HR systems often default to coding terminations as "discharge" even when it's actually a layoff. The good news is these cases usually get resolved favorably once a human reviews the actual evidence. File that appeal ASAP with all your documentation, keep certifying weekly, and try not to panic - you're going to get through this!

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