PA UC fraud investigation taking forever - 4 years after identity theft and still no payment
Anyone else stuck in Pennsylvania UC fraud investigation purgatory? Back in March 2021, someone stole my identity and filed for benefits using my info. I discovered it when I legitimately needed to apply for unemployment in June 2021. The system flagged me as potentially fraudulent and froze everything. I've been fighting for nearly FOUR YEARS to get my rightful benefits (around $2,150). I've literally done everything by the book - filed police reports, submitted identity verification docs multiple times, contacted my state rep twice, called the fraud hotline repeatedly, and sent in certified mail with documentation. Every few months I get told 'we're still investigating' but NOTHING HAPPENS. Has anyone successfully gotten their money after a fraud investigation? Did contacting your rep actually help? I'm at my wit's end!!
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Aileen Rodriguez
I went through something similar in 2022, though mine only took 8 months to resolve. Have you specifically requested a fraud investigation status update through the messaging portal? There's a special form they told me to use called the "Fraud Resolution Status Request" that seemed to finally get things moving. Also, when you contacted your state rep, did their office actually open a formal inquiry? Sometimes they just make a phone call that doesn't get tracked properly in the system.
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Bruno Simmons
•I didn't know there was a specific form! Where exactly do I find this in the portal? And yes, my state rep's office did file a formal inquiry - I have the reference number and everything. They told me in December that the case was 'being escalated' but that was 3 months ago now with zero updates.
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Zane Gray
omg 4 YEARS?!? thats insane!! the system is so broken i swear
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Maggie Martinez
I had my identity stolen for UC benefits too! It took me 14 months to finally get my legitimate claim processed. The trick that FINALLY worked for me was documenting EVERYTHING and then requesting an official appeal hearing specifically for 'failure to issue determination within reasonable time period.' The hearing examiner has more power than regular UC staff to push things through the system! Trust me, an appeal might seem extreme but it's literally the only way to break through the bureaucratic wall sometimes.
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Bruno Simmons
•That's brilliant - I never thought about filing an appeal for delay rather than an actual determination! Did you have to use any specific language or cite particular regulations when you requested the hearing?
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Maggie Martinez
•Yes! You want to reference 34 Pa. Code § 101.74 about prompt decision requirements. And make it clear this isn't about the fraud determination itself but about their failure to make ANY determination in a reasonable timeframe. They hate when you know the actual regulations!
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Alejandro Castro
This happend to my brother in law and he nevr got his money. Some rep told him after 2 years they just close the cases if they cant determine who did the fraud. PA UC is a joke!!!!
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Bruno Simmons
•That's absolutely terrifying. Did he try contacting the Treasury Department? I've heard sometimes they hold the funds there after cases are 'closed' but you need to specifically request them.
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Monique Byrd
I know this sounds crazy but have you tried reaching an actual claims examiner? I was in UC limbo for months (not fraud, but still) and could NOT get through on the phones. I used this service called Claimyr that got me connected to a PA UC agent in like 15 minutes when I'd been trying for weeks. Cost me a few bucks but totally worth it to finally talk to someone who could actually see my file and do something. They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/CEPETxZdo9E?si=WL1ZzVZWG3KiHrg2. I finally got someone who actually specialized in fraud cases and she found my documents that had been sitting in the system for months!
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Bruno Simmons
•I've never heard of Claimyr before. Does it actually work? I'm desperate enough to try anything at this point. Did they need any personal information beyond what you'd give the UC office anyway?
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Monique Byrd
•They just need your phone number to connect the call - you still talk directly to the PA UC agents yourself, they just help you skip the busy signals. All the personal stuff you share is directly with UC, not the service. It literally just helps you get through the phone system.
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Jackie Martinez
You need to be persistent but also strategic about this. Having worked adjacent to the UC system (not an employee but I dealt with them professionally), I can tell you that fraud cases from 2020-2021 are in a special category because of the massive fraud wave during COVID. Here's what you should do: 1. Request your claim file through a Right to Know request - this is different than just asking for status updates 2. File a complaint with the PA Inspector General's office specifically about the delay 3. Request a "Commissioner Review" of your case delay (this is above the regular appeals process) 4. Contact your STATE Senator (not just representative) as they often have more pull The system is definitely broken, but there are specific pathways designed for these situations. Don't give up!
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Bruno Simmons
•This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I've never heard of a Commissioner Review before. Is there a specific form for that request? And for the Right to Know request, should I submit that through the UC office or through the state's general RTK process?
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Jackie Martinez
•For Commissioner Review, call the UC Board of Review (not the regular UC number) at 717-787-5122. Ask specifically for a review based on "extraordinary delay in fraud determination." For the RTK, go through the general state process (https://www.openrecords.pa.gov/) as it has more legal weight than just requesting through UC directly.
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Lia Quinn
I'm so sorry you're going through this! The fraud stuff is THE WORST because you're treated like you did something wrong when YOU'RE the victim!!! It's absolutely maddening. I had a similar issue (though not quite as long as yours) and what finally worked was having THREE separate things happen at once - my state rep inquiry, a formal appeal filing, AND getting through to a supervisor on the phone. It seemed like having multiple pressure points in the system at the same time finally forced someone to look at my case. Don't give up!!!
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Bruno Simmons
•Thank you for the encouragement! It helps to know I'm not alone in this nightmare. I'm definitely going to try the multi-pronged approach. Did you just keep calling repeatedly until you got a supervisor or was there a specific way you asked for one?
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Zane Gray
have you tried the pa treasury unclaimed funds website? sometimes money ends up there after uc issues
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Bruno Simmons
•I check there every few months actually! Nothing yet, but I'll keep looking.
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Aileen Rodriguez
Update on my earlier comment - I just remembered something important. For fraud cases specifically from 2021, there's a special PA UC fraud resolution unit with a direct number: 717-772-4331. They ONLY handle backlogged identity theft cases. This number isn't published on their website for some reason, but an examiner gave it to me. Call early in the morning (right when they open) for best results.
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Bruno Simmons
•THANK YOU! I'm calling this number first thing tomorrow morning. I can't believe there's a special unit and nobody ever mentioned it to me in all this time.
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Bruno Simmons
UPDATE: You all are amazing! I called the fraud resolution unit number that @helpful_person suggested, and after three attempts, I got through to someone who actually knew what they were talking about! They found my case and said it had been marked for review but never assigned to an examiner. They've now assigned it and promised a determination within 15 business days. I also submitted the appeal for delay and scheduled a call with my state senator's office. I'll update again when I hear something. THANK YOU ALL!
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Maggie Martinez
•Yes! So glad to hear this! The right phone number makes all the difference. Keep us posted!
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