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Bruno Simmons

PA UC fraud investigation taking forever - 4 years after identity theft and still no payment

Anyone else stuck in Pennsylvania UC fraud investigation purgatory? Back in March 2021, someone stole my identity and filed for benefits using my info. I discovered it when I legitimately needed to apply for unemployment in June 2021. The system flagged me as potentially fraudulent and froze everything. I've been fighting for nearly FOUR YEARS to get my rightful benefits (around $2,150). I've literally done everything by the book - filed police reports, submitted identity verification docs multiple times, contacted my state rep twice, called the fraud hotline repeatedly, and sent in certified mail with documentation. Every few months I get told 'we're still investigating' but NOTHING HAPPENS. Has anyone successfully gotten their money after a fraud investigation? Did contacting your rep actually help? I'm at my wit's end!!

I went through something similar in 2022, though mine only took 8 months to resolve. Have you specifically requested a fraud investigation status update through the messaging portal? There's a special form they told me to use called the "Fraud Resolution Status Request" that seemed to finally get things moving. Also, when you contacted your state rep, did their office actually open a formal inquiry? Sometimes they just make a phone call that doesn't get tracked properly in the system.

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I didn't know there was a specific form! Where exactly do I find this in the portal? And yes, my state rep's office did file a formal inquiry - I have the reference number and everything. They told me in December that the case was 'being escalated' but that was 3 months ago now with zero updates.

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omg 4 YEARS?!? thats insane!! the system is so broken i swear

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I had my identity stolen for UC benefits too! It took me 14 months to finally get my legitimate claim processed. The trick that FINALLY worked for me was documenting EVERYTHING and then requesting an official appeal hearing specifically for 'failure to issue determination within reasonable time period.' The hearing examiner has more power than regular UC staff to push things through the system! Trust me, an appeal might seem extreme but it's literally the only way to break through the bureaucratic wall sometimes.

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That's brilliant - I never thought about filing an appeal for delay rather than an actual determination! Did you have to use any specific language or cite particular regulations when you requested the hearing?

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Yes! You want to reference 34 Pa. Code § 101.74 about prompt decision requirements. And make it clear this isn't about the fraud determination itself but about their failure to make ANY determination in a reasonable timeframe. They hate when you know the actual regulations!

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This happend to my brother in law and he nevr got his money. Some rep told him after 2 years they just close the cases if they cant determine who did the fraud. PA UC is a joke!!!!

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That's absolutely terrifying. Did he try contacting the Treasury Department? I've heard sometimes they hold the funds there after cases are 'closed' but you need to specifically request them.

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I know this sounds crazy but have you tried reaching an actual claims examiner? I was in UC limbo for months (not fraud, but still) and could NOT get through on the phones. I used this service called Claimyr that got me connected to a PA UC agent in like 15 minutes when I'd been trying for weeks. Cost me a few bucks but totally worth it to finally talk to someone who could actually see my file and do something. They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/CEPETxZdo9E?si=WL1ZzVZWG3KiHrg2. I finally got someone who actually specialized in fraud cases and she found my documents that had been sitting in the system for months!

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I've never heard of Claimyr before. Does it actually work? I'm desperate enough to try anything at this point. Did they need any personal information beyond what you'd give the UC office anyway?

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They just need your phone number to connect the call - you still talk directly to the PA UC agents yourself, they just help you skip the busy signals. All the personal stuff you share is directly with UC, not the service. It literally just helps you get through the phone system.

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You need to be persistent but also strategic about this. Having worked adjacent to the UC system (not an employee but I dealt with them professionally), I can tell you that fraud cases from 2020-2021 are in a special category because of the massive fraud wave during COVID. Here's what you should do: 1. Request your claim file through a Right to Know request - this is different than just asking for status updates 2. File a complaint with the PA Inspector General's office specifically about the delay 3. Request a "Commissioner Review" of your case delay (this is above the regular appeals process) 4. Contact your STATE Senator (not just representative) as they often have more pull The system is definitely broken, but there are specific pathways designed for these situations. Don't give up!

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I've never heard of a Commissioner Review before. Is there a specific form for that request? And for the Right to Know request, should I submit that through the UC office or through the state's general RTK process?

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For Commissioner Review, call the UC Board of Review (not the regular UC number) at 717-787-5122. Ask specifically for a review based on "extraordinary delay in fraud determination." For the RTK, go through the general state process (https://www.openrecords.pa.gov/) as it has more legal weight than just requesting through UC directly.

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I'm so sorry you're going through this! The fraud stuff is THE WORST because you're treated like you did something wrong when YOU'RE the victim!!! It's absolutely maddening. I had a similar issue (though not quite as long as yours) and what finally worked was having THREE separate things happen at once - my state rep inquiry, a formal appeal filing, AND getting through to a supervisor on the phone. It seemed like having multiple pressure points in the system at the same time finally forced someone to look at my case. Don't give up!!!

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Thank you for the encouragement! It helps to know I'm not alone in this nightmare. I'm definitely going to try the multi-pronged approach. Did you just keep calling repeatedly until you got a supervisor or was there a specific way you asked for one?

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have you tried the pa treasury unclaimed funds website? sometimes money ends up there after uc issues

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I check there every few months actually! Nothing yet, but I'll keep looking.

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Update on my earlier comment - I just remembered something important. For fraud cases specifically from 2021, there's a special PA UC fraud resolution unit with a direct number: 717-772-4331. They ONLY handle backlogged identity theft cases. This number isn't published on their website for some reason, but an examiner gave it to me. Call early in the morning (right when they open) for best results.

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THANK YOU! I'm calling this number first thing tomorrow morning. I can't believe there's a special unit and nobody ever mentioned it to me in all this time.

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UPDATE: You all are amazing! I called the fraud resolution unit number that @helpful_person suggested, and after three attempts, I got through to someone who actually knew what they were talking about! They found my case and said it had been marked for review but never assigned to an examiner. They've now assigned it and promised a determination within 15 business days. I also submitted the appeal for delay and scheduled a call with my state senator's office. I'll update again when I hear something. THANK YOU ALL!

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Yes! So glad to hear this! The right phone number makes all the difference. Keep us posted!

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This is exactly why I joined this community - seeing people actually help each other through these bureaucratic nightmares gives me hope! Bruno, I'm so happy you finally got some movement on your case. Four years is absolutely insane and shows how broken the system really is. I'm dealing with a similar identity theft situation (though only 6 months in so far) and I'm bookmarking all these resources. The fact that there's a special fraud unit with an unpublished number is both helpful and infuriating - how are people supposed to know about these things?! Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and actual solutions instead of just the usual "keep calling" advice.

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Absolutely agree! This community has been a lifesaver for so many of us dealing with these UC nightmares. The fact that crucial resources like that fraud unit number aren't publicized is ridiculous - it's like they're hoping we'll just give up! @e876857ccfe8 your persistence is inspiring and I'm crossing my fingers you finally get your resolution after all this time. For anyone else reading this thread, definitely save all these tips - the appeal for delay strategy, the Commissioner Review option, and that special fraud unit number could save months of frustration. We shouldn't have to crowdsource solutions to broken government systems, but I'm grateful we have each other!

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This thread is incredible - I wish I had found this community years ago when I first started dealing with my own UC fraud nightmare! @e876857ccfe8 I'm so relieved to see you finally got some traction after FOUR YEARS of fighting this. That's beyond unacceptable but your persistence is truly admirable. I'm currently 18 months into my own identity theft UC case and have been banging my head against the wall with the same "we're still investigating" responses. I've screenshotted every single resource mentioned here - the fraud unit number, the appeal for delay strategy, the Commissioner Review process, and the Right to Know request approach. It's absolutely maddening that these solutions aren't readily available information and we have to rely on each other to figure out how to navigate a system that should be helping us. Thank you to everyone who shared their hard-won knowledge here. This is exactly what community support should look like!

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Welcome to the community @601c262df124! Your 18-month struggle is unfortunately way too common, but you're definitely in the right place for actual actionable advice. I'm new here myself but already blown away by how helpful everyone is compared to other forums where people just vent without solutions. Since you're screenshotting everything, I'd also recommend creating a timeline document with dates of every contact you've made - that really helped me when I finally got through to the fraud unit. The fact that we have to become amateur investigators and legal experts just to get our own money is insane, but at least we're not doing it alone anymore. Hope you get resolution soon - 18 months is already far too long!

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Holy wow, this thread is like finding gold in the PA UC wilderness! I just joined this community specifically because I've been searching everywhere for real solutions to UC fraud issues. @e876857ccfe8 your story is both heartbreaking and inspiring - FOUR YEARS is absolutely criminal, but seeing you finally get movement gives me so much hope! I'm currently 10 months into my own identity theft case and feeling completely defeated by the endless "still investigating" responses. I've literally bookmarked this entire thread and I'm going to try every single strategy mentioned here. The fraud unit number @efbaa3930fe3 shared is a game-changer - I can't believe there's a whole specialized unit that nobody tells you about! @e351e6827d43 your breakdown of the strategic approach with the Commissioner Review and RTK requests is incredibly detailed and helpful. It's so refreshing to find a community where people share actual actionable solutions instead of just complaining (though the complaining is totally valid too!). Thank you everyone for proving that we don't have to fight this broken system alone!

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@8629e7c18e98 Welcome to what I'm quickly realizing is the most helpful corner of the internet for UC issues! I'm also relatively new here but already amazed at how this community actually provides real solutions instead of just sympathy. Your 10-month struggle is way too long already, and I'm hoping all these strategies help you break through the bureaucratic wall faster than Bruno's four-year odyssey. One thing I'd add from my own experience - when you call that fraud unit number, ask specifically if your case has been "assigned to an examiner" because apparently that's a crucial step that can get missed. It's ridiculous that we need to become experts in their internal processes just to get our own money, but this community makes it so much more manageable. Fingers crossed you get resolution soon!

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