How often do PA UC denials get overturned on appeal? Success rates?
I just got a determination letter saying my PA UC claim was denied because they think I quit voluntarily (I DIDN'T). My supervisor basically made my position impossible after I refused to do unpaid overtime, so I had no choice but to leave. Has anyone gone through the appeal process? I'm terrified this won't get resolved - I have 3 kids and rent due in 2 weeks. Are appeals usually successful or am I wasting my time? How long does the whole appeal thing take? Anyone have experience with this specific situation?
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Gianni Serpent
Appeals can definitely be successful in PA, especially in constructive discharge cases like yours where working conditions became intolerable. I went through this last year. Make sure you appeal within the 15-day window on your determination letter. Gather ALL documentation: emails showing unreasonable demands, any witnesses who can verify your claims, and timeline of events showing how your supervisor's behavior changed after you refused unpaid overtime. Focus on proving you had a "necessitous and compelling reason" to leave - that's the legal standard they use.
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Ryder Ross
•Thank you! I'm definitely within the 15 days. I have some emails and texts that show how they kept scheduling me for 60+ hours but only paying for 40. I'll gather everything. Do you know how long the whole process took for you?
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Henry Delgado
i got denied 2x before and won both on appeal lol. unemployment usually sides with employers first then actuly listens to u on appeal. took like 8 weeks for my hearing. bring all ur proof!!
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Olivia Kay
•This is accurate. Appeals outcomes depend heavily on documentation and how you present your case. If you can prove your employer created an environment where any reasonable person would quit, your chances are good. About 40% of appeals are successful overall, but that percentage goes up significantly when you have proper documentation. The referee hearing is really your opportunity to fully explain your side with evidence.
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Joshua Hellan
THEY ALWAYS DENY FIRST!!! The system is designed to discourage people from claiming! I've appealed twice and won both times because I was prepared. My last employer tried claiming I was fired for misconduct when they actually eliminated my position. These companies lie all the time thinking people won't fight back. APPEAL IT!!!
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Jibriel Kohn
•yep same happened to my brother he appealed and won. system sucks
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Ryder Ross
Has anyone used a lawyer for their appeal? Is it worth it or can I handle this myself? I'm so stressed about this whole situation.
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Gianni Serpent
•You don't need a lawyer for most UC appeals. The process is designed for self-representation. Just be organized, stick to facts, and have your documentation ready. If your case is particularly complex or involves a large sum of backdated benefits, then consulting with a legal aid organization might be worth it, but most people handle appeals successfully on their own.
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Edison Estevez
My appeal took forever to get scheduled because I kept calling the wrong number trying to check on it. I was getting so frustrated with busy signals and disconnects! Then I found Claimyr (claimyr.com) which got me connected to an actual UC rep in about 15 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/CEPETxZdo9E?si=WL1ZzVZWG3KiHrg2. The rep told me my appeal hearing was already scheduled but the notice was sent to my old address. Saved me weeks of waiting! Definitely worth it when you're stressing about appeal timelines.
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Emily Nguyen-Smith
•do they actually connect u to PA UC or is it some third party thing? ive been calling for 3 days straight with no luck
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Edison Estevez
•It connects you directly to the actual PA UC call center - they just handle the waiting and redials so you don't have to. When I used it, I got transferred to a real UC rep who pulled up my file and everything. Made a huge difference when I was freaking out about my appeal status.
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Jibriel Kohn
they denied me at first to. won on appeal. just make sure u show up to ur hearing! my friend missed his and lost automatically
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Ryder Ross
•Oh no, I definitely won't miss it! Do they notify you by mail or email about the hearing date?
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Jibriel Kohn
•they send a letter in mail with date and time. sometimes it comes late so check ur mail everyday!!!
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Olivia Kay
Statistics from PA Labor & Industry show that about 43% of appeals are decided in the claimant's favor. Your specific situation (constructive discharge due to unreasonable working conditions) tends to have better success rates if properly documented. Make sure you understand the "necessitous and compelling" standard for voluntary quits - you need to show that a reasonable person would have had no choice but to quit. Document specific instances of unreasonable demands, focusing on the unpaid overtime issue. For appeals timelines: expect 30-45 days for hearing scheduling, then another 10-14 days for the decision after hearing.
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Ryder Ross
•Thank you for the specific statistics - that's actually more hopeful than I expected! I'll focus on documenting everything about the unpaid overtime situation. Do you know if the hearing is in person or can it be done by phone?
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Olivia Kay
•Most UC appeal hearings are conducted by phone these days, especially since COVID. You'll receive instructions with your hearing notice. If you prefer an in-person hearing, you can request it, but phone hearings are much more convenient and have the same legal weight. Be sure to submit any documentation at least 3 days before your hearing so the referee has time to review it.
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Emily Nguyen-Smith
i work at a place with high turnover and so many of my coworkers quit and got denied but then they appeal and half of them win. depends on if u have proof and if ur boss shows up to the hearing my old boss never bothers showing up and people usually win when that happens
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Ryder Ross
•That's interesting! I wonder if my old supervisor will bother showing up. They're pretty disorganized so maybe not.
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Gianni Serpent
One more tip - during your hearing, stay calm and factual. Don't get emotional or attack your former employer personally, even if you're justified. The referee is only interested in facts relevant to UC law. And while you're waiting, make sure you continue filing your weekly claims/certifications, even though you're not getting paid yet. If you win your appeal, they'll pay all those back weeks, but only if you've been filing consistently.
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Ryder Ross
•Thank you so much! I hadn't thought about still filing weekly claims during the appeal process - that's really helpful advice. I'm feeling more prepared now. I'll keep gathering my evidence and try to stay calm during the hearing.
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Destiny Bryant
I went through this exact situation about 6 months ago - also got denied initially for "voluntary quit" when it was clearly constructive discharge. The appeal process was stressful but totally worth it. I won my case by focusing on three key things: 1) Timeline showing how conditions deteriorated after I refused unpaid work, 2) Documentation of unreasonable demands (save every text/email!), and 3) Proof that I tried to resolve issues before quitting. The whole process took about 10 weeks from appeal to decision. Don't let them intimidate you - employers often don't even show up to hearings because they know their case is weak. You've got this! Just stay organized and stick to the facts.
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Anastasia Kozlov
•This is exactly what I needed to hear! Your three-point approach makes so much sense - I've been collecting emails and texts but wasn't sure how to organize everything. The timeline idea is really smart, especially showing how things changed after I refused the unpaid overtime. 10 weeks feels long but manageable knowing there's a good chance of success. Thank you for the encouragement - I'm feeling much more confident about moving forward with this appeal!
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Noah Irving
I just want to echo what everyone else is saying - don't give up on the appeal! I was in a similar situation where my manager made my life hell after I complained about safety violations, then they claimed I "abandoned my job" when I finally couldn't take it anymore. The initial denial was devastating but I appealed anyway. What really helped me was writing out a chronological narrative of everything that happened, with dates and specific examples. I also requested my personnel file from HR which showed they had no documentation of any performance issues before I started pushing back on their demands. Won my appeal after about 12 weeks total. The waiting is brutal when you have bills to pay, but hang in there - the system does work when you have a legitimate case like yours. Make sure you appeal ASAP and don't miss any deadlines!
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StarSailor
•The chronological narrative approach is brilliant - I hadn't thought about requesting my personnel file either! That's such a smart way to show there were no issues before I refused the unpaid overtime. I'm definitely going to do both of those things. It's reassuring to hear from so many people who went through similar situations and came out successful. The waiting will be tough with three kids and bills piling up, but knowing there's a real chance of winning makes it feel worth fighting for. Thanks for the detailed advice and encouragement!
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Liam Mendez
I'm going through something very similar right now and this thread has been incredibly helpful! My employer is claiming I quit when they actually forced me out by cutting my hours to almost nothing after I refused to work weekends without overtime pay. Reading everyone's experiences gives me hope that the appeal process isn't just a waste of time. I've been documenting everything but was worried I didn't have enough evidence. Now I see that even basic documentation like emails and a timeline can make a real difference. It's frustrating that they seem to deny almost everyone initially, but at least there's a real path forward through appeals. Thanks to everyone sharing their stories - it really helps to know other people have fought this and won!
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Ivanna St. Pierre
•Your situation with them cutting your hours to force you out sounds like classic constructive discharge too! That's actually really strong evidence - employers can't just slash someone's hours as retaliation and expect to avoid UC liability. Make sure you document the specific hour reductions and tie them to when you refused weekend work without proper overtime pay. The fact that so many people in this thread have won similar appeals really shows the system does work when you have documentation. Keep gathering everything you can and don't let their initial denial discourage you - it sounds like you have a solid case!
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Adrian Hughes
The appeal success rate for constructive discharge cases in PA is actually quite good when you have proper documentation. From what I've seen working in employment law, cases involving unpaid overtime demands (which violates FLSA) tend to be even stronger. Your situation - where conditions became intolerable after refusing illegal unpaid work - fits the "necessitous and compelling reason" standard perfectly. Key things to focus on: 1) Timeline showing retaliation after you refused unpaid overtime, 2) Any written evidence of the 60+ hour demands, 3) Documentation that you tried to address the issue before leaving. The referee will be looking for proof that any reasonable person in your position would have felt compelled to quit. Don't let the initial denial discourage you - it's extremely common and doesn't reflect the merit of your case. With three kids depending on you, this is absolutely worth fighting for.
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Niko Ramsey
•This is exactly the kind of expert perspective I was hoping for! Knowing that the FLSA violation angle makes my case even stronger is really encouraging. I do have several text messages from my supervisor demanding I stay late without pay, plus my own records showing the 60+ hour weeks they were expecting. The timeline approach keeps coming up in everyone's advice, so I'll definitely organize everything chronologically to show how the retaliation escalated after I refused the unpaid overtime. It's such a relief to hear from someone with employment law experience that my situation fits the legal standard so well. Thank you for breaking down exactly what the referee will be looking for - that takes a lot of the guesswork out of preparing my case!
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Amara Chukwu
Just wanted to add another success story to give you hope! I was denied initially for "voluntary quit" when my manager created impossible working conditions after I reported safety violations. The appeal process felt overwhelming at first, but I followed advice similar to what everyone here is giving - documented everything chronologically, gathered all my emails and texts, and stayed focused on facts during the hearing. My employer didn't even show up to the hearing, which apparently happens a lot. Won my appeal after about 8 weeks and got all my back pay. The key is really in the documentation - sounds like you already have good evidence with those texts about unpaid overtime. That's actually wage theft, which strengthens your constructive discharge argument significantly. Don't let them intimidate you into giving up - with three kids counting on you, this fight is absolutely worth it. The system may be frustrating but it does work when you have a legitimate case like yours!
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AstroAce
•Thank you so much for sharing your success story! It's incredibly reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same process and came out successful. The fact that your employer didn't show up to the hearing is really interesting - that seems to be a common pattern from what others have mentioned too. I'm definitely going to focus on organizing all my documentation chronologically like everyone suggests. Having those text messages about the unpaid overtime demands feels like my strongest evidence, especially knowing that wage theft angle strengthens the constructive discharge argument. With rent due soon and three kids to feed, I was starting to panic, but reading all these success stories gives me real hope that fighting this appeal is the right choice. Thanks for the encouragement - I'm going to file my appeal tomorrow and start building my case properly!
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Zoe Stavros
I went through a very similar appeal process about 8 months ago and want to give you some hope! I was also denied initially for "voluntary quit" when my employer made working conditions unbearable after I refused to violate company policy. The appeal took about 6 weeks total but I won and got all my back benefits. Here's what really helped me: keep a detailed log of every interaction, save screenshots of ALL texts/emails (even if they seem minor), and when you get to the hearing, stick to a simple timeline format. The referee appreciated that I could clearly show cause and effect - how my refusal to break policy led directly to impossible working conditions. Your situation with unpaid overtime demands is actually really strong evidence since that's wage theft. Don't let the initial denial scare you - I've learned that employers often bank on people not appealing because the process seems intimidating. With three kids depending on you, this is absolutely worth the fight. File that appeal ASAP and start organizing your evidence chronologically. You've got this!
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Hannah Flores
•This is so encouraging to read! I was starting to feel overwhelmed by the whole process but your step-by-step breakdown makes it feel much more manageable. The simple timeline format approach sounds perfect - I can clearly show how everything changed after I refused the unpaid overtime. I've been screenshot-ing all the texts from my supervisor demanding I stay late without pay, and now I realize those are actually really strong evidence of wage theft like you mentioned. It's amazing how many people here have gone through similar situations and won their appeals. With three kids and bills piling up, I was terrified this was a lost cause, but hearing from so many success stories gives me the confidence to fight this properly. Filing my appeal first thing tomorrow and getting all my documentation organized chronologically. Thank you for the encouragement and practical advice!
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Tobias Lancaster
I just went through this exact same situation last year and wanted to share what worked for me! I was initially denied for "voluntary quit" when my supervisor retaliated against me for refusing to work mandatory unpaid overtime. The appeal process was nerve-wracking but absolutely worth it - I won after about 9 weeks and got all my back pay. Here's what made the difference: 1) I created a detailed timeline showing how my supervisor's behavior changed immediately after I refused the unpaid work, 2) I gathered every single text message and email as evidence (sounds like you already have some great documentation!), and 3) I focused on proving that any reasonable person would have been forced to quit under those conditions. The wage theft angle is actually really strong for your case since demanding unpaid overtime violates federal labor laws. My employer didn't even show up to the hearing, which apparently happens often when they know their case is weak. Don't let that initial denial discourage you - it's just part of their process to weed out people who won't fight back. With three kids depending on you, this is absolutely a battle worth fighting. File that appeal immediately and stay organized with your evidence. You've got a solid case!
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Abigail Patel
•This is incredibly helpful and gives me so much hope! Your three-point approach is exactly what I needed to hear - especially the timeline showing how behavior changed after refusing unpaid work. I have several text messages from my supervisor getting increasingly hostile after I said no to staying late without pay, so that timeline will be really clear. The fact that your employer didn't show up to the hearing is encouraging too - mine is pretty disorganized and might not bother either. It's such a relief to know that the wage theft angle actually strengthens my case since those unpaid overtime demands were definitely illegal. With rent due in two weeks and three kids to feed, I was honestly panicking about this whole situation. But reading your success story and everyone else's experiences here has given me the confidence to fight this properly. Filing my appeal tomorrow morning and getting all my documentation organized chronologically like you suggested. Thank you so much for sharing your experience - it really means a lot to know other people have been through this exact situation and won!
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StarSurfer
I'm in a very similar situation right now and this entire thread has been a lifesaver! My employer is trying to claim I "abandoned my job" when they actually made my position impossible after I refused to work unpaid overtime just like you. Reading all these success stories is giving me the courage to file my appeal - I was honestly scared it would be pointless. The wage theft angle that people keep mentioning is really eye-opening because I didn't realize that demanding unpaid overtime was actually illegal. I've been saving all the text messages from my manager getting more and more unreasonable, but now I see I need to organize everything chronologically to show the clear pattern of retaliation. It's frustrating that they seem to deny almost everyone initially just to discourage appeals, but knowing that so many people here have fought back and won makes me feel like I actually have a chance. Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences - this thread is proof that we don't have to just accept these unfair denials!
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Hailey O'Leary
•You're absolutely right to feel encouraged by all these success stories! The pattern is so clear - they deny almost everyone initially hoping people won't appeal, but the system actually works when you fight back with proper documentation. That "job abandonment" claim sounds like total BS when they were the ones making your position impossible with illegal unpaid overtime demands. The fact that you've been saving those text messages showing your manager getting increasingly unreasonable is perfect evidence - that's exactly the kind of documentation that wins these cases. Make sure when you organize everything chronologically that you highlight the clear before/after pattern - how things escalated after you refused the unpaid work. It really does seem like employers count on us being too intimidated or overwhelmed to appeal, but this thread proves we can absolutely win when we have legitimate cases like ours. Don't let them get away with this - file that appeal and show them you're not backing down!
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Luca Bianchi
I just wanted to add some practical advice for your appeal preparation since I went through this exact situation about 2 years ago. Beyond the documentation everyone's mentioned (which is absolutely crucial), make sure you understand the specific legal language they use. In PA, you need to prove you had a "necessitous and compelling reason" to quit - essentially that any reasonable person would have done the same. Your unpaid overtime situation is actually textbook constructive discharge, especially since it violates FLSA. Here's what really helped me organize my case: Create a simple spreadsheet with dates, what happened, and any evidence you have for each incident. This makes it super easy to reference during your hearing and shows a clear pattern. Also, when you're on the call with the referee, speak slowly and clearly - they're taking notes and you want to make sure they capture everything accurately. One thing that surprised me was how straightforward the hearing actually was. I was terrified it would be like a courtroom drama, but it was really just a conversation where I got to tell my side of the story with evidence to back it up. The referee asked good questions and seemed genuinely interested in understanding what happened. Don't let anxiety about the process stop you from fighting for what you deserve - with three kids depending on you, this is absolutely worth pursuing. You've got solid evidence and a strong case!
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KaiEsmeralda
•This spreadsheet idea is genius! I've been trying to figure out how to organize everything and that format sounds perfect for keeping track of dates, incidents, and evidence all in one place. The "necessitous and compelling reason" standard makes so much sense now - I can definitely show that any reasonable person would have quit when faced with illegal unpaid overtime demands and retaliation. It's really reassuring to hear that the hearing was more like a conversation than a scary courtroom scene. I was honestly dreading that part, but knowing the referee will actually listen to my side and ask thoughtful questions makes it feel much less intimidating. With three kids counting on me, I can't afford to give up on this fight. Your practical advice about speaking slowly during the call is something I wouldn't have thought of but will definitely remember. Thank you for breaking down the process so clearly - it's exactly what I needed to feel confident about moving forward with this appeal!
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MoonlightSonata
I went through almost the exact same situation about a year ago - denied for "voluntary quit" when my boss made work impossible after I refused unpaid overtime. The appeal process was honestly scary at first, but I'm so glad I didn't give up! Won my case after about 10 weeks and got all my back benefits. The key things that helped me: 1) Document EVERYTHING chronologically - I made a timeline showing how my supervisor's attitude and demands changed immediately after I said no to working off the clock, 2) Save every single text/email as evidence (sounds like you're already doing this!), 3) Focus on proving that any reasonable person would have quit under those conditions. Your unpaid overtime situation is actually really strong because that's wage theft - completely illegal under federal law. The referee will see this as your employer creating intolerable conditions through illegal demands. My employer didn't even show up to the hearing, which happens more often than you'd think when they know their case is weak. File that appeal ASAP and don't let the initial denial discourage you - it's just their way of weeding out people who won't fight back. With three kids depending on you, this is absolutely worth fighting for. You've got solid evidence and a legitimate case. Stay organized, stick to the facts, and you've got this!
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