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The whole system is BROKEN. They deny legitimate claims all the time and then make YOU prove you deserve benefits. Automation has been destroying jobs for decades and they still don't have proper procedures for handling these cases. Fight this hard because they're hoping you'll just give up.
Actually this is a really interesting case because unemployment law has always recognized technological displacement as a valid reason for benefits. The fact that machines are doing work formerly done by humans is exactly the kind of economic shift unemployment insurance was designed to help with. Your appeal should be straightforward if you have proper documentation of the automation implementation.
If you're having trouble reaching NYS Department of Labor to clarify specific rules, I found claimyr.com really helpful for getting through to an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/qyftW-mnTNI that shows how it works. Sometimes talking to a real person helps clear up these policy questions better than trying to interpret the website.
The NYS Department of Labor system is so confusing! I thought if you work part-time while collecting you lose all your benefits but apparently you can still get partial payments? And don't even get me started on the job search requirements - three contacts per week but only certain types count??
Make sure he files as soon as possible after his last day of work! There's no waiting period in New York but you can't get benefits for any weeks before you file your claim. Also tell him not to stress too much about making mistakes on the application - he can always call to correct information later if needed.
ugh the whole system is such a mess. why can't they just have a simple form instead of making people jump through hoops on that terrible website
honestly this whole system is so confusing... why can't they just give straight answers about this stuff?? I've been trying to get through to someone at NYS Department of Labor for weeks about a different issue and their phone lines are always busy. It's like they don't want people to actually understand the rules.
I actually found a service called Claimyr that helped me get through to an actual NYS Department of Labor agent when I couldn't reach them myself. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/qyftW-mnTNI that shows how it works. Really saved me a lot of frustration when I needed to verify some details about my claim.
Your dad should definitely apply for both. At 62 with that much work history, he's earned those benefits. Just document everything carefully and be prepared to explain his job search efforts if they ask. The worst they can say is no to the unemployment, but he'll still have the social security coming in.
Tami Morgan
The current maximum weekly benefit rate in NY is $504 for 2025, but most people don't qualify for the max. NYS Department of Labor uses a sliding scale based on your base period wages. You can check your monetary determination letter on my.ny.gov for the exact breakdown of how they calculated your amount.
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Haley Bennett
•Interesting, never heard of that service before. Did they charge you a lot?
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Rami Samuels
•They focus on helping you get through to the right person rather than the cost aspect. Was worth it to finally understand my benefit calculation instead of guessing.
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Douglas Foster
The whole NYS Department of Labor system is so unnecessarily complicated!! Why can't they just tell you upfront what percentage they use instead of making us do detective work to figure out our own benefits?
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Nina Chan
•I feel you, it took me weeks to understand why my benefit amount was what it was
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