Where do I mail Form 4852 when employer won't send W2?
So I'm in a really frustrating situation right now. My employer is being completely uncooperative about sending my W2 form. I've contacted them multiple times since February, and they keep giving me the runaround. I've already filled out Form 4852 (Substitute for W-2) as the IRS website suggested, but now I'm stuck because I can't figure out where I'm actually supposed to mail this form. I've looked all over the IRS website but can't find clear instructions on the mailing address. I have all my pay stubs from last year so I was able to fill out the form with what I believe are accurate numbers, but what good is that if I don't know where to send it? Has anyone dealt with this before? Any help would be seriously appreciated because I'm getting anxious about potential late filing penalties.
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Royal_GM_Mark
The Form 4852 should be attached to your tax return when you file. It's not something you mail separately. You'll include it with your 1040 when you submit your return. If you're filing by mail, you'll send it to the IRS service center for your state. The addresses are available on the IRS website under "Where to File." The exact address depends on whether you're enclosing a payment and which state you live in. If you're e-filing, the tax software should have options to include Form 4852 as an attachment, and you'll just need to enter all the information from your completed form into the program. Remember to allow extra time for processing when using Form 4852 since the IRS will need to verify the information you've provided.
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Jeremiah Brown
AuthorThanks for clearing that up! So I don't need to send it separately first before filing my return? I was confused because I thought the IRS needed to approve it or something before I could use the information on my tax return. Do you know if using Form 4852 increases my chances of being audited? I'm a bit worried since my employer isn't cooperating.
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Royal_GM_Mark
You definitely don't need to send it separately or get pre-approval. The Form 4852 is designed to be filed with your tax return as a substitute for your missing W-2. Using Form 4852 doesn't automatically trigger an audit, but it may lead to additional verification steps. The IRS might compare your reported wages with what your employer reports. If there are significant discrepancies, you might receive questions. That's why it's important to be as accurate as possible using your pay stubs and other records. Keep copies of your communication attempts with your employer as well, just in case you need to verify you tried to get your W-2.
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Amelia Cartwright
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Chris King
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Amelia Cartwright
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Chris King
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Zachary Hughes
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Mia Alvarez
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Zachary Hughes
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Rachel Clark
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Carter Holmes
Just an additional tip from someone who had to file Form 4852 last year - make sure you keep copies of EVERYTHING. I made copies of all my pay stubs, my completed 4852, and kept a log of all my attempts to contact my employer (dates, who I spoke with, etc). When the IRS did contact me with questions (about 6 weeks after filing), having that documentation made the process super smooth. Also, if you're expecting a refund, be prepared for it to take longer than usual. Mine took about 10 weeks instead of the typical 3 weeks.
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Jeremiah Brown
AuthorThat's really good advice about keeping records of contact attempts! I've been texting my employer but should probably switch to email to have better documentation. Did you send your employer a final formal request before submitting the 4852?
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Carter Holmes
Yes, absolutely switch to email if you can! It creates a much better paper trail. I did send a final formal request via certified mail (so I had proof of delivery) about two weeks before I filed. I specifically mentioned in the letter that I would be filing using Form 4852 if I didn't receive my W-2 by a specific date. This extra step wasn't technically required, but the IRS agent I eventually spoke with mentioned it showed "due diligence" on my part, which helped my case. The certified mail receipt was particularly useful when they asked for evidence that I tried to resolve this with my employer first.
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Sophia Long
has anyone had issues after filing w form 4852? my friend did this 2 years ago and said the irs sent him a letter asking for more info later and it was a whole thing.
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Angelica Smith
I had to use Form 4852 in 2023 and did get a letter requesting verification about 2 months after filing. They basically wanted me to prove my income amount was correct. I sent in copies of my pay stubs and bank statements showing the deposits, and that resolved it. It delayed my refund by about 6 weeks but otherwise wasn't a big deal.
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Madison King
I went through this exact same situation last year and it was incredibly stressful! One thing that really helped me was contacting the IRS directly to report my employer for not providing my W-2. You can call the IRS business phone line and file a complaint - they actually have procedures in place for this. When I called, they told me that employers are required to provide W-2s by January 31st, and if they don't, they can face penalties. The IRS agent I spoke with said that sometimes just having the IRS contact the employer directly gets results faster than anything else. Also, make sure when you're calculating your income for Form 4852 that you're being conservative rather than aggressive with the numbers. If you're unsure about something, it's better to slightly underestimate than overestimate. The IRS can work with you if your numbers are a bit low, but if they're too high it can create bigger problems. Keep all your documentation organized - pay stubs, any emails or texts with your employer, everything. You'll be glad you have it all in one place if the IRS has questions later.
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