Former Employer Hasn't Provided W-2 - Need IRS Form 4852 Guidance
Terminated from employment as of January 2024. Still haven't received my W-2 Form despite the February 1st deadline having passed. My former colleagues confirmed receipt of their documentation approximately 3 weeks ago. Unable to establish contact with previous employer due to circumstances I'm legally restricted from disclosing. I've attempted to complete Form 4852 (Substitute for W-2) but encountered difficulty with the earnings estimation section as I lack precise documentation of my withholdings. The IRS transcript request system requires income verification which creates a circular problem. I've drafted correspondence to the IRS explaining the situation but am concerned about processing delays. What additional procedural options would you recommend to resolve this documentation gap? Appreciate any technical guidance.
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Summer Green
I would... proceed carefully with this situation. There are several avenues you could pursue to obtain your wage information without direct employer contact. First, consider requesting your Wage and Income Transcript directly from the IRS. This might show your reported wages even if you don't have the actual W-2 yet. You can request this through the Get Transcript Online tool or by submitting Form 4506-T. If that doesn't work, check your final paystub from 2023 - it should show year-to-date totals that will be close to what would appear on your W-2. Not perfect, but it gives you something to work with. I was in a similar situation last year... it was incredibly stressful but I finally got everything resolved.
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Amun-Ra Azra
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Edward McBride
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Darcy Moore
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Dana Doyle
Oh my god, I feel your pain SO MUCH! ๐ซ I went through this exact nightmare last year with an employer who literally ghosted the entire company after shutting down! I was crying daily over my tax situation until I found a way to reach the IRS. They actually had all my wage info in their system already even though I never got my W-2! The relief I felt was INCREDIBLE!
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Liam Duke
Back in 2022, I faced an identical predicament with a company that went bankrupt. What worked for me was filing IRS Form 3949-A (Information Referral) to report the employer for failing to provide tax documents. Within 14 days of submitting this form, my W-2 mysteriously appeared in my mailbox. The employer likely received notification from the IRS and decided compliance was easier than dealing with penalties. Sometimes formal escalation is the most efficient path forward when standard channels are exhausted.
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Manny Lark
This approach works particularly well with companies that are still operational but being difficult. The situation differs somewhat from employers who've gone bankrupt or truly cannot be reached. In those cases, Form 4852 becomes the primary option, whereas Form 3949-A is more effective as leverage against non-compliant but functioning businesses. Your scenario seems to fall in the latter category based on coworkers receiving their forms.
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Rita Jacobs
How long did it take for the IRS to actually process your Form 3949-A? We're already in April and tax deadline is coming up fast! Would you recommend filing for an extension while waiting for this to resolve?
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Khalid Howes
Brilliant strategy. Using the regulatory framework to create compliance incentives rather than just working around the problem. I've recommended this approach to several clients with similar issues.
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Ben Cooper
Have you checked if your wage information is already available on the IRS website? I was in a similar situation and discovered that even though I didn't have my physical W-2, the IRS already had my wage data in their system. I used https://taxr.ai to analyze my tax transcript and it showed all my income sources including the missing W-2 information. The tool identified exactly where to find my wage data on the transcript and calculated my withholdings. Saved me from having to estimate anything on Form 4852. Have you tried pulling your transcript to see if your wage information is already there?
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Naila Gordon
is this legit tho? idk about giving access to my tax info to some random site... can't the IRS just tell you this stuff directly if you call them? genuinely curious bc I'm having similar issues w/ my former employer ๐
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Cynthia Love
Be extremely cautious about estimating your income on Form 4852. I made a $1,247 error on my withholding estimate in 2022, which triggered an automated review and delayed my refund by exactly 87 days. The IRS eventually corrected it based on what the employer had reported, but the delay caused me to miss a time-sensitive payment. If you must estimate, I'd recommend being conservative on the withholding amount - it's better to potentially owe a small amount than to claim a larger refund than you're entitled to, which raises more flags in their system.
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Darren Brooks
I processed payroll for 7 years, and there's a specific timeline you should follow. As of April 15, 2024, you're well past the legal deadline for W-2 distribution (January 31, 2024). On February 15th, you became eligible to contact the IRS directly about the missing form. By March 1st, you should have submitted Form 4852. Since you're now in mid-April, I'd recommend filing for an extension using Form 4868 by April 18th, which gives you until October 15th to file your complete return. During this extended period, continue pursuing your W-2 through the IRS channels others have mentioned.
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Rosie Harper
There appears to be some misunderstanding regarding Form 4852 completion requirements. The earnings estimation section doesn't require absolute precision - it's designed for situations exactly like yours. Per IRS Publication 5, you're permitted to use your final paystub, bank deposits, or other financial records to make a reasonable estimation. The key term here is "reasonable basis" for your figures. Should the IRS later receive your actual W-2 data from your employer, they'll automatically reconcile any discrepancies without penalty to you, provided your estimate was made in good faith.
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Elliott luviBorBatman
Word of warning from someone who's been there - don't wait for the IRS letter method to work before taking action. ๐ I sent a letter similar to what you're planning and waited... and waited... and waited. Six months later, I got a form response suggesting I file Form 4852. By then, I was dealing with failure-to-file penalties that took another three months to get removed. The IRS mail system is... how do I put this nicely... not exactly known for its speed. File that extension ASAP while you work on getting the actual information!
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Demi Hall
Based on collective experience from this sub, your most efficient path forward is: 1. Request your Wage and Income Transcript from irs.gov/transcripts 2. File Form 4852 using data from your last paystub or transcript 3. Submit Form 3949-A to report the employer's failure to provide W-2 4. File Form 4868 for an extension if needed The consensus here is that waiting for employer compliance rarely works if they've already missed the deadline by this much. The IRS actually has your wage data in their system already - employers submit this information separately from sending you your copy. Your focus should be on accessing that information rather than waiting for an uncooperative employer.
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Mateusius Townsend
Do I need to mail in the Form 4852 separately or can I just include it with my tax return? And if I use the transcript data, do I need to attach a copy of the transcript to my return as proof?
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