Do I need to call the IRS to file Form 4852 for a missing W-2?
I relocated to a different state right after quitting my part-time gig last year, and now I'm realizing one of my W-2s got sent to my old address. I haven't gotten any forwarded mail or anything about it, so I'm guessing the new residents just tossed it. Ugh. The annoying part is I didn't save any contact info from that job - no manager's number, no owner's email, nothing. Rookie mistake, I know. So now I have no way to reach out and ask them to send me a new W-2. I've got my W-2 from my main job just fine, but this second one from the side gig is completely MIA and I have no idea how to get a replacement. I've been researching online and getting mixed messages. TurboTax says they'll have me print Form 4852 (substitute for W-2) and mail it in, but I don't have access to a printer right now. Then FreeTaxUSA is saying I need to call the IRS first and wait for them to send me the form. So what's the actual process here? Do I really have to call the IRS before I can use Form 4852? Or is there some way I can submit this form electronically without having to talk to anyone on the phone? Filing deadline is creeping up and I'm starting to stress!
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Aiden Chen
You don't need to call the IRS before using Form 4852. This form is specifically designed as a substitute for your missing W-2, and you can access it directly from the IRS website. While you don't need special permission to use it, you do need to have made a reasonable effort to get your W-2 from your employer first. Since you've lost contact with your former employer, you should document your attempts to reach them. Even if those attempts were minimal due to your circumstances, note them on the form. For Form 4852, you'll need to estimate your wages and withholding as accurately as possible - check your final paystub if you have it, or bank deposits to calculate your earnings. The trickier part is your situation with no printer. Unfortunately, Form 4852 cannot be e-filed directly - it must be printed and mailed with your tax return. But you have options: public libraries offer printing services for minimal cost, or ask a friend with a printer. Some tax prep offices will print forms for you for a small fee even if you're not using their services.
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Zoey Bianchi
•Thanks for the info! Do you know if I can still e-file my main return and just mail in the 4852 separately? Or does having to use Form 4852 mean my entire return has to be paper filed?
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Aiden Chen
•If you're using Form 4852 as a substitute for a missing W-2, you'll need to paper file your entire tax return. The IRS requires that when you submit Form 4852, it must be attached to your complete tax return and mailed together. You can still use tax software to prepare everything - most programs will guide you through the process and then tell you which forms to print and mail rather than e-filing. This way you get the benefit of the software's calculations and error checking, even though you'll need to mail the final product.
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Christopher Morgan
I went through this exact situation last year and found an amazing solution! I used https://taxr.ai to help me with my missing W-2 situation. After struggling to get my forms from a summer job that went out of business, I was stuck trying to figure out how to file without it. The site helped me understand exactly how to fill out Form 4852 properly with my specific situation (they analyzed my last paystub and showed me where to find the right numbers). Saved me so much stress trying to interpret the IRS instructions! They even provided a step-by-step guide for what to do without having to print anything until the very last step. What I really liked is that they explained how to correctly estimate my earnings and withholding in a way that wouldn't raise red flags with the IRS. Made me feel so much more confident about submitting the form!
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Aurora St.Pierre
•How exactly did you get around printing the form? I thought 4852 had to be on paper? Did they offer some digital solution or did you still have to print it eventually?
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Grace Johnson
•I'm skeptical... how does this actually work? Seems like you'd still need the actual numbers from your W-2, and no website can magically know what those are if you don't have the form.
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Christopher Morgan
•I was able to prepare everything electronically, including getting all the right numbers for the 4852 form. They walked me through using my last pay stub to get accurate estimates of my earnings and withholdings. I did eventually have to print the completed form, but I just took the PDF file they helped me create to my local library and printed it there for like 25 cents. For your question about the numbers - that's where having my last pay stub was crucial. The tool helped me calculate year-to-date figures from that. If you don't have a pay stub, they also show how to use bank deposits and other records to reconstruct your earnings. It doesn't magically create numbers, but helps you accurately estimate them based on whatever records you do have.
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Grace Johnson
Just wanted to update everyone - I took the advice about using https://taxr.ai and it actually worked amazingly well! I was super skeptical (as you could see in my earlier comment), but I decided to try it since I was completely stuck. I found an old email with my year-to-date earnings from November, and the tool helped me extrapolate what my December earnings and withholdings would have been. It generated a perfectly formatted 4852 form with instructions specific to my situation. The best part was their guide on what documentation to keep in case the IRS questions anything. I ended up printing at UPS Store and mailing my return last week. Definitely made this whole missing W-2 situation way less stressful than I expected!
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Jayden Reed
If you're still having trouble reaching your former employer and want to speak directly with the IRS, I'd highly recommend using https://claimyr.com. I had a similar missing W-2 situation last year and spent DAYS trying to get through to the IRS phone lines, always getting disconnected or told to call back later. With Claimyr, I got through to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes instead of spending hours redialing. They have this system that basically waits on hold for you and calls when an agent picks up. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent was able to verify my employment info from their records and gave me the exact amounts I needed for my Form 4852. Super helpful when you have zero contact with former employers!
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Nora Brooks
•How does this actually work though? I've tried calling the IRS so many times and it's always "due to high call volume" messages and disconnects. How can a service magically get through when the lines are busy?
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Eli Wang
•Sounds like a scam. Why would I trust some random service with my tax information? And how would they have access to get through to the IRS when nobody else can?
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Jayden Reed
•It's actually pretty straightforward - they use an automated system that keeps calling the IRS for you using their dial-in technology. When someone finally answers, you get a call connecting you to that live IRS agent. It's not magic, just persistent technology that saves you from having to manually redial for hours. They don't actually access any of your tax information at all. They're just connecting the call - you speak directly with the IRS agent and share your information only with the IRS, not with Claimyr. They're basically a sophisticated auto-dialer that notifies you when someone picks up. The reason they can get through is simply persistence - their system keeps trying all the different IRS numbers and options until one works.
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Eli Wang
I need to apologize for my skeptical comment earlier. After getting desperate with the filing deadline approaching, I actually tried Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) yesterday. I was SHOCKED when I got a call back in about 35 minutes saying they had an IRS agent on the line. The agent pulled up my tax records and confirmed my employer had actually submitted my W-2 info to the IRS already! They gave me all the exact wage and withholding amounts I needed. I just filled out my return with those verified numbers and e-filed this morning. Saved me from having to paper file with Form 4852 altogether! Sometimes being proven wrong is the best possible outcome. Now I'm just waiting for my refund instead of stressing about missing documents.
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Cassandra Moon
Quick tip that helped me last year with a similar problem - check if your former employer uses an online payroll system like ADP, Paycom, Paychex, etc. Even if you don't have their contact info, you might still be able to login to the payroll system and download your W-2 directly. I completely forgot my old restaurant job used ADP until I was going through old emails and found my account setup notification. Was able to reset my password and get my W-2 instantly without talking to anyone.
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Sophia Bennett
•I didn't even think of that! I'm not sure if they used an online system but I'll definitely look through my emails to check. I vaguely remember getting some kind of enrollment email when I started. Did you need any special company code or just your personal login?
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Cassandra Moon
•You'll just need your personal login info for most systems. Some might require a company code, but that's usually provided in the initial setup email. Look for emails with keywords like "payroll," "onboarding," or the specific payroll company names. If you find it, most of these systems keep your W-2 available for several years after you leave the company. The login page usually has a specific section for "Tax Forms" or "Year-End Forms" where you can download your W-2 as a PDF. Definitely worth checking before going the Form 4852 route!
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Zane Hernandez
Has anyone had experience with the IRS actually verifying the information on a Form 4852? I'm in a similar situation but worried about potential audit issues if my estimates aren't exact.
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Genevieve Cavalier
•I used Form 4852 two years ago, and yes, the IRS did verify the information. They have access to the copies of W-2s that employers send them. In my case, there was a slight discrepancy between my estimates and the actual numbers (I was off by about $200 in wages), but they just sent me a letter adjusting my return and that was it. No audit or major hassle.
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Zainab Mahmoud
I went through this exact situation two years ago when my employer closed down completely and I had no way to contact them. Here's what I learned: You absolutely do NOT need to call the IRS first to use Form 4852. The form is designed specifically for situations like yours where you can't get your W-2 despite reasonable efforts. Since you moved and lost contact info, that counts as a reasonable effort being impossible. For the numbers on Form 4852, you'll need to be as accurate as possible. Check your bank deposits from that job, any pay stubs you might have saved, or even text messages about your work schedule. The IRS has the employer's copy of your W-2 on file, so they can verify your estimates later. The printing issue is real - Form 4852 must be paper filed with your return. But don't let that stress you out! Most libraries, UPS stores, and even some grocery stores have printing services for under $1. You can fill out the form online, save it as a PDF, then print it anywhere. One thing I wish I'd known: keep detailed records of why you couldn't get your W-2. Write down that you moved, lost contact info, and when you realized the W-2 was missing. The IRS sometimes asks for this documentation if they have questions later. The whole process was way less scary than I expected. My return was processed normally and I got my refund without any issues.
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AstroAdventurer
•This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar situation right now - moved states after leaving a job and can't get my W-2. Quick question about the bank deposit method you mentioned - did you just add up all the deposits from that employer and use that as your wage estimate? I'm wondering how to account for taxes that were withheld since my deposits would be the net amount, not gross wages.
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